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progressivedem22
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4/28/2014 12:24:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Hey, fellas. I thought this an appropriate time to host one of these. The goal is to host a series of high-caliber intellectual debates whilst adding twists throughout to keep debaters on their toes -- it could be something as simple as a 3-5 minute cross-examination period to as complex as role-playing UN Security Council members, or taking live questions from an audience member (during a google hangout), or having live team debates.

Here's how I intend this to work, though this is open to modifications.

Round 1: Each debater will be randomly paired with one other. They can either choose to debate on another, in which case the loser will be eliminated from contention, or team up for the next round.

Round 2: This depends largely on whether there is an even number of individuals who won their debates. If there's an odd number of contenders at this point, a bye will be randomly assigned. For the most part, teams will square off via google hangout on a topic of their collective choice. But the losing team will not be eliminated -- rather, the members of that team will square off against one another in the next round.

Round 3: Losing team members will debate themselves, either by google hangout or a text debate. The remaining debaters will receive a bye.

Round 4: At this point, it will depend on whether there is an even number of debaters remaining. If so, the remaining debates will be team debates -- even if it requires, for instance, 3 on 3. Otherwise, we'll 1 v 1 to the end.

The goal essentially is for there to be ambiguity: no one knows exactly what is going to happen, and the twists each round will be announced with the pairings.

It sounds crazy, but it's worth a shot, right?

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CJKAllstar
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4/28/2014 12:33:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 12:24:52 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
Hey, fellas. I thought this an appropriate time to host one of these. The goal is to host a series of high-caliber intellectual debates whilst adding twists throughout to keep debaters on their toes -- it could be something as simple as a 3-5 minute cross-examination period to as complex as role-playing UN Security Council members, or taking live questions from an audience member (during a google hangout), or having live team debates.

Here's how I intend this to work, though this is open to modifications.

Round 1: Each debater will be randomly paired with one other. They can either choose to debate on another, in which case the loser will be eliminated from contention, or team up for the next round.

Round 2: This depends largely on whether there is an even number of individuals who won their debates. If there's an odd number of contenders at this point, a bye will be randomly assigned. For the most part, teams will square off via google hangout on a topic of their collective choice. But the losing team will not be eliminated -- rather, the members of that team will square off against one another in the next round.

Round 3: Losing team members will debate themselves, either by google hangout or a text debate. The remaining debaters will receive a bye.

Round 4: At this point, it will depend on whether there is an even number of debaters remaining. If so, the remaining debates will be team debates -- even if it requires, for instance, 3 on 3. Otherwise, we'll 1 v 1 to the end.


The goal essentially is for there to be ambiguity: no one knows exactly what is going to happen, and the twists each round will be announced with the pairings.


It sounds crazy, but it's worth a shot, right?

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I don't know if I can do live debates, but I'd like to participate, why not?
"Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind." - George Orwell
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4/28/2014 1:55:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 12:41:36 PM, Cermank wrote:
When would this start?

Well, my intention is for it to start as soon as we get enough participants, but I'm willing to extend it by popular demand if people have exams.
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4/28/2014 2:14:41 PM
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ClassicRobert
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4/28/2014 3:43:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Google hangouts debates? I'm probably in.

When are you intending to start?
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4/28/2014 3:51:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 1:55:06 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 12:41:36 PM, Cermank wrote:
When would this start?

Well, my intention is for it to start as soon as we get enough participants, but I'm willing to extend it by popular demand if people have exams.

Yeah, I'm down, but I can't really do anything until after May 15
Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org...

Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham

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4/28/2014 3:54:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 3:51:06 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 1:55:06 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 12:41:36 PM, Cermank wrote:
When would this start?

Well, my intention is for it to start as soon as we get enough participants, but I'm willing to extend it by popular demand if people have exams.

Yeah, I'm down, but I can't really do anything until after May 15

Alright, that shouldn't be a problem at all since I anticipate that most others will be in the same situation (I'm done on the 8th). As it is, the rounds will probably go on for at least a week, if not more, so we'll find a way to accommodate exams in some way.
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4/28/2014 3:57:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 3:54:31 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:51:06 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 1:55:06 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 12:41:36 PM, Cermank wrote:
When would this start?

Well, my intention is for it to start as soon as we get enough participants, but I'm willing to extend it by popular demand if people have exams.

Yeah, I'm down, but I can't really do anything until after May 15

Alright, that shouldn't be a problem at all since I anticipate that most others will be in the same situation (I'm done on the 8th). As it is, the rounds will probably go on for at least a week, if not more, so we'll find a way to accommodate exams in some way.

Sweet. Also, can we pick our team if we want to do that right off the bat?
Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org...

Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham

My Pet Fish is such a Douche- NiamC

It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder
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4/28/2014 5:22:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 3:57:41 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:54:31 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:51:06 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 1:55:06 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 12:41:36 PM, Cermank wrote:
When would this start?

Well, my intention is for it to start as soon as we get enough participants, but I'm willing to extend it by popular demand if people have exams.

Yeah, I'm down, but I can't really do anything until after May 15

Alright, that shouldn't be a problem at all since I anticipate that most others will be in the same situation (I'm done on the 8th). As it is, the rounds will probably go on for at least a week, if not more, so we'll find a way to accommodate exams in some way.

Sweet. Also, can we pick our team if we want to do that right off the bat?

Well, I was intending for it to be random from the beginning with the choice of either teaming up with your round 1 opponent, or having a single-loss elimination round. But we could just start with teams if that's preferable.
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4/28/2014 5:41:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 3:43:34 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Google hangouts debates? I'm probably in.

When are you intending to start?

Having to do a live debate with you in the DDO Pokemon challenge is pretty much the sole reason I'm not even going to bother trying the challenge now...
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4/28/2014 5:42:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 5:41:14 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:43:34 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Google hangouts debates? I'm probably in.

When are you intending to start?

Having to do a live debate with you in the DDO Pokemon challenge is pretty much the sole reason I'm not even going to bother trying the challenge now...

No, try. I'm really nothing exceptional. It'll be fun :)
Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org...

Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham

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It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder
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4/28/2014 5:47:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 5:42:57 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:41:14 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:43:34 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Google hangouts debates? I'm probably in.

When are you intending to start?

Having to do a live debate with you in the DDO Pokemon challenge is pretty much the sole reason I'm not even going to bother trying the challenge now...

No, try. I'm really nothing exceptional. It'll be fun :)

But I like having time to think and chew over my opponent's arguments before coming up with rebuttals... and I'm not an articulate speaker with my stupid speech defect.
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4/28/2014 5:55:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 5:47:03 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:42:57 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:41:14 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:43:34 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Google hangouts debates? I'm probably in.

When are you intending to start?

Having to do a live debate with you in the DDO Pokemon challenge is pretty much the sole reason I'm not even going to bother trying the challenge now...

No, try. I'm really nothing exceptional. It'll be fun :)

But I like having time to think and chew over my opponent's arguments before coming up with rebuttals... and I'm not an articulate speaker with my stupid speech defect.

If you have a speech defect, I'd obviously be fine with doing a text debate. That being said, why don't we do a live impromptu one soon, and we just won't record it, so it'll be no pressure, you can see if you like it.
Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org...

Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham

My Pet Fish is such a Douche- NiamC

It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder
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4/28/2014 5:58:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 5:55:08 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:47:03 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:42:57 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:41:14 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:43:34 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Google hangouts debates? I'm probably in.

When are you intending to start?

Having to do a live debate with you in the DDO Pokemon challenge is pretty much the sole reason I'm not even going to bother trying the challenge now...

No, try. I'm really nothing exceptional. It'll be fun :)

But I like having time to think and chew over my opponent's arguments before coming up with rebuttals... and I'm not an articulate speaker with my stupid speech defect.

If you have a speech defect, I'd obviously be fine with doing a text debate. That being said, why don't we do a live impromptu one soon, and we just won't record it, so it'll be no pressure, you can see if you like it.

Thank you so much!
I'm open to trying it out to see if it goes okay, I guess... :D
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4/28/2014 6:22:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 5:42:57 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:41:14 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:43:34 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Google hangouts debates? I'm probably in.

When are you intending to start?

Having to do a live debate with you in the DDO Pokemon challenge is pretty much the sole reason I'm not even going to bother trying the challenge now...

No, try. I'm really nothing exceptional. It'll be fun :)

Well, I'm always up for a live debate. Could always make it seem like a duel between gym leaders. Just gotta sync up our times and do it sometime.
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4/28/2014 6:25:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 6:22:27 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:42:57 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:41:14 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:43:34 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Google hangouts debates? I'm probably in.

When are you intending to start?

Having to do a live debate with you in the DDO Pokemon challenge is pretty much the sole reason I'm not even going to bother trying the challenge now...

No, try. I'm really nothing exceptional. It'll be fun :)

Well, I'm always up for a live debate. Could always make it seem like a duel between gym leaders. Just gotta sync up our times and do it sometime.

YES. I get the feeling you're going to crush me though haha.
Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org...

Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham

My Pet Fish is such a Douche- NiamC

It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder
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4/28/2014 6:30:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 6:25:17 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 6:22:27 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:42:57 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:41:14 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:43:34 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Google hangouts debates? I'm probably in.

When are you intending to start?

Having to do a live debate with you in the DDO Pokemon challenge is pretty much the sole reason I'm not even going to bother trying the challenge now...

No, try. I'm really nothing exceptional. It'll be fun :)

Well, I'm always up for a live debate. Could always make it seem like a duel between gym leaders. Just gotta sync up our times and do it sometime.

YES. I get the feeling you're going to crush me though haha.

Just mean to have some fun anyway, don't even have to record it if you don't want to.
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4/28/2014 6:35:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 6:30:03 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 4/28/2014 6:25:17 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 6:22:27 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:42:57 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:41:14 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:43:34 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Google hangouts debates? I'm probably in.

When are you intending to start?

Having to do a live debate with you in the DDO Pokemon challenge is pretty much the sole reason I'm not even going to bother trying the challenge now...

No, try. I'm really nothing exceptional. It'll be fun :)

Well, I'm always up for a live debate. Could always make it seem like a duel between gym leaders. Just gotta sync up our times and do it sometime.

YES. I get the feeling you're going to crush me though haha.

Just mean to have some fun anyway, don't even have to record it if you don't want to.

I'm fine either way, man. Over the summer, I'm going to try to get three video debates in per week, so we could have a lot of fun.
Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org...

Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham

My Pet Fish is such a Douche- NiamC

It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder
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4/28/2014 6:41:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 6:35:28 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 6:30:03 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 4/28/2014 6:25:17 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 6:22:27 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:42:57 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 5:41:14 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:43:34 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Google hangouts debates? I'm probably in.

When are you intending to start?

Having to do a live debate with you in the DDO Pokemon challenge is pretty much the sole reason I'm not even going to bother trying the challenge now...

No, try. I'm really nothing exceptional. It'll be fun :)

Well, I'm always up for a live debate. Could always make it seem like a duel between gym leaders. Just gotta sync up our times and do it sometime.

YES. I get the feeling you're going to crush me though haha.

Just mean to have some fun anyway, don't even have to record it if you don't want to.

I'm fine either way, man. Over the summer, I'm going to try to get three video debates in per week, so we could have a lot of fun.

Sounds good, we can definitely touch base then.
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4/28/2014 7:36:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 5:22:58 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:57:41 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:54:31 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:51:06 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 4/28/2014 1:55:06 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 12:41:36 PM, Cermank wrote:
When would this start?

Well, my intention is for it to start as soon as we get enough participants, but I'm willing to extend it by popular demand if people have exams.

Yeah, I'm down, but I can't really do anything until after May 15

Alright, that shouldn't be a problem at all since I anticipate that most others will be in the same situation (I'm done on the 8th). As it is, the rounds will probably go on for at least a week, if not more, so we'll find a way to accommodate exams in some way.

Sweet. Also, can we pick our team if we want to do that right off the bat?

Well, I was intending for it to be random from the beginning with the choice of either teaming up with your round 1 opponent, or having a single-loss elimination round. But we could just start with teams if that's preferable.

Awesome. Thett and I have been wanting to do PF debates as a team for a while now, and this will be a good chance to follow through on it.
Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org...

Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham

My Pet Fish is such a Douche- NiamC

It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder
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4/29/2014 11:41:33 PM
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At 4/28/2014 2:14:41 PM, CJKAllstar wrote:
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Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org...

Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham

My Pet Fish is such a Douche- NiamC

It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder