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Say "$hit," "fvck." Not "stupid."

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4/29/2014 11:25:44 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Language is a funny thing. We use it all the time, but we sometimes are not fully aware of the effects of our rhetoric. One such example is the use of ableist language in our discourse. I'm going to especially highlight our ableist language with regard to mental states. When we use words like stupid, idiot, retarded, foolish, unintelligent, etc. as an insult, the suggestion is that because the person or argument resembles that of a person who would score low on an IQ test, that that person or argument ought to be rejected from the discourse.

This idea is of course messed up in several regards. One reason is that it presupposes a "correct" mental state (100 or higher, no mental "illnesses") in which others are "deviants," whose very mind is "wrong." The other is the idea that any semblance of a learning "disability" or a "illness" is grounds for rejection. In truth, it absolutely does not matter what one scored on an IQ test nor what diagnosis one might have. Everyone's beliefs and opinions matter, and all persons should be given respect.

It's easy to insult someone's argument without using demeaning ableist language. Say the argument is "awful" "horrifying" "bad" "shocking." Call it "$hitty" "fvcked up" "an embarrassment to society" "degrading" "obnoxious" "ill-conceived." There are many colorful ways to reprimand someone's tasteless rhetoric: accusing the persons of being mentally "disabled" is unnecessary and degrading for many persons, including those on this website.
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4/29/2014 1:14:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 11:25:44 AM, kbub wrote:
Language is a funny thing. We use it all the time, but we sometimes are not fully aware of the effects of our rhetoric. One such example is the use of ableist language in our discourse. I'm going to especially highlight our ableist language with regard to mental states. When we use words like stupid, idiot, retarded, foolish, unintelligent, etc. as an insult, the suggestion is that because the person or argument resembles that of a person who would score low on an IQ test, that that person or argument ought to be rejected from the discourse.

This idea is of course messed up in several regards. One reason is that it presupposes a "correct" mental state (100 or higher, no mental "illnesses") in which others are "deviants," whose very mind is "wrong." The other is the idea that any semblance of a learning "disability" or a "illness" is grounds for rejection. In truth, it absolutely does not matter what one scored on an IQ test nor what diagnosis one might have. Everyone's beliefs and opinions matter, and all persons should be given respect.

It's easy to insult someone's argument without using demeaning ableist language. Say the argument is "awful" "horrifying" "bad" "shocking." Call it "$hitty" "fvcked up" "an embarrassment to society" "degrading" "obnoxious" "ill-conceived." There are many colorful ways to reprimand someone's tasteless rhetoric: accusing the persons of being mentally "disabled" is unnecessary and degrading for many persons, including those on this website.

Yeah, rhetoric is pretty fvcking stupid -_-
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4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.
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4/29/2014 1:18:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

You're an idiot.
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4/29/2014 1:18:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:18:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

You're an idiot.

Now were being subjective. Your an idiot as well
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4/29/2014 1:18:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

Are you insinuating that those with learning disabilities ought to be silenced?
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4/29/2014 1:19:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:18:32 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:18:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

You're an idiot.

Now were being subjective. Your an idiot as well

I'm just following your suggestion of calling idiots as they are to get them to shut up.
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4/29/2014 1:21:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:18:46 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

Are you insinuating that those with learning disabilities ought to be eliminated and burned in a pile of tire rubber?

No, just regular people who have yet to learn basic common sense. There are a few things that have been definitely established as true, and arguing these things IS stupid. If someone has a base disagreement on a debatable topic, then that's one thing.
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4/29/2014 1:24:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:21:11 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:18:46 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

Are you insinuating that those with learning disabilities ought to be eliminated and burned in a pile of tire rubber?

No, just regular people who have yet to learn basic common sense. There are a few things that have been definitely established as true, and arguing these things IS stupid. If someone has a base disagreement on a debatable topic, then that's one thing.

You keep implying that having a low IQ is something shameful. Did you read the OP?
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4/29/2014 1:26:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:24:01 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:21:11 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:18:46 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

Are you insinuating that those with learning disabilities ought to be eliminated and burned in a pile of tire rubber?

No, just regular people who have yet to learn basic common sense. There are a few things that have been definitely established as true, and arguing these things IS stupid. If someone has a base disagreement on a debatable topic, then that's one thing.

You keep implying that having a low IQ is something that should be perseuted and be made love to many times. Did you read the OP?

Your opinion is that the people who were insulting are mentally handicapped. I never implied that those people should be attacked, even though the philosophy is all the same.
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4/29/2014 1:29:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
There's is nothing wrong with having a low IQ. You'll just have to focus on having the correct information as opposed to having a bunch of information.

I think telling a mentally retarded person their argument is stupid, should be fine. As long as you can explain why.

The last thing I'll do is take it easy in a retard. It's the ultimate form of disrespect.
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4/29/2014 1:29:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:26:22 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:24:01 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:21:11 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:18:46 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

Are you insinuating that those with learning disabilities ought to be eliminated and burned in a pile of tire rubber?

No, just regular people who have yet to learn basic common sense. There are a few things that have been definitely established as true, and arguing these things IS stupid. If someone has a base disagreement on a debatable topic, then that's one thing.

You keep implying that having a low IQ is something that should be perseuted and be made love to many times. Did you read the OP?

Your opinion is that the people who were insulting are mentally handicapped.

My opinion is that this language implies that there is something wrong with being "stupid," regardless of the person's actual IQ.
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4/29/2014 1:31:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:18:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

You're an idiot.

Unfortunately, I tend to agree with you... maybe it was all the spam I got from jifpop, lol.
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4/29/2014 1:31:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

It's a good way of suppressing unpopular views not suppressing idiotic views.
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4/29/2014 1:32:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:29:16 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:26:22 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:24:01 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:21:11 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:18:46 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

Are you insinuating that those with learning disabilities ought to be eliminated and burned in a pile of tire rubber?

No, just regular people who have yet to learn basic common sense. There are a few things that have been definitely established as true, and arguing these things IS stupid. If someone has a base disagreement on a debatable topic, then that's one thing.

You keep implying that having a low IQ is something that should be perseuted and be made love to many times. Did you read the OP?

Your opinion is that the people who were insulting are mentally handicapped.

My opinion is that this language implies that there is something wrong with being "stupid," regardless of the person's actual IQ.

In our society, being stupid insinuates that you have taken a life lacking in learning. In all honesty, your whole life should be directed towards greater understanding. If your "Stupid" by choice, then there is something wrong with you and your lifestyle.
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4/29/2014 1:35:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:29:00 PM, Wylted wrote:
There's is nothing wrong with having a low IQ. You'll just have to focus on having the correct information as opposed to having a bunch of information.

I think telling a mentally retarded person their argument is stupid, should be fine. As long as you can explain why.

The last thing I'll do is take it easy in a retard. It's the ultimate form of disrespect.

I'm not sure you interpreted my OP correctly. My point is that no one should be called idiot, because that implies that there is something wrong with being or resembling an idiot. Note that all those words are historical or contemporary labels identifying persons with learning disabilities. Also "dumb."
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4/29/2014 1:37:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:31:44 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

It's a good way of suppressing unpopular views not suppressing idiotic views.

Still nothing wrong with "idiotic" views...
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4/29/2014 1:40:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:32:33 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:29:16 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:26:22 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:24:01 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:21:11 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:18:46 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

Are you insinuating that those with learning disabilities ought to be eliminated and burned in a pile of tire rubber?

No, just regular people who have yet to learn basic common sense. There are a few things that have been definitely established as true, and arguing these things IS stupid. If someone has a base disagreement on a debatable topic, then that's one thing.

You keep implying that having a low IQ is something that should be perseuted and be made love to many times. Did you read the OP?

Your opinion is that the people who were insulting are mentally handicapped.

My opinion is that this language implies that there is something wrong with being "stupid," regardless of the person's actual IQ.

In our society, being stupid insinuates that you have taken a life lacking in learning. In all honesty, your whole life should be directed towards greater understanding. If your "Stupid" by choice, then there is something wrong with you and your lifestyle.

Stupid refers to a person who has or resembles a person who has lower than average intelligence. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. A word that might refer to what you're going for is ignorant. I'm ok with that word, because it does not devalue those with learning disabilities.
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4/29/2014 1:41:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:31:43 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:18:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

You're an idiot.

Unfortunately, I tend to agree with you... maybe it was all the spam I got from jifpop, lol.

...still nothing wrong with being an idiot...
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4/29/2014 1:42:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:37:12 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:31:44 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

It's a good way of suppressing unpopular views not suppressing idiotic views.

Still nothing wrong with "idiotic" views...

There is something wrong with idiotic views. I want all of my idiotic views exposed and eliminated. Idiotic doesn't mean retarded or mentally handicapped or low IQ in this society. On this society it means willfully ignorant.
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4/29/2014 1:42:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:41:28 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:31:43 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:18:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

You're an idiot.

Unfortunately, I tend to agree with you... maybe it was all the spam I got from jifpop, lol.

...still nothing wrong with being an idiot...

By "idiot" I don't just mean stupid. I also mean irritating...
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4/29/2014 1:43:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:42:08 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:37:12 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:31:44 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

It's a good way of suppressing unpopular views not suppressing idiotic views.

Still nothing wrong with "idiotic" views...

There is something wrong with idiotic views. I want all of my idiotic views exposed and eliminated. Idiotic doesn't mean retarded or mentally handicapped or low IQ in this society. On this society it means willfully ignorant.

Actually, "ignorant" means ignorant. Idiot refers to persons with mental "disabilities."

http://www.autistichoya.com...
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4/29/2014 1:45:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:42:32 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:41:28 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:31:43 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:18:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

You're an idiot.

Unfortunately, I tend to agree with you... maybe it was all the spam I got from jifpop, lol.

...still nothing wrong with being an idiot...

By "idiot" I don't just mean stupid. I also mean irritating...

"Irritating" might be a better term to use then, so it does not seem like there is anything wrong with being an idiot. See?
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4/29/2014 1:46:19 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:43:58 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:42:08 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:37:12 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:31:44 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

It's a good way of suppressing unpopular views not suppressing idiotic views.

Still nothing wrong with "idiotic" views...

There is something wrong with idiotic views. I want all of my idiotic views exposed and eliminated. Idiotic doesn't mean retarded or mentally handicapped or low IQ in this society. On this society it means willfully ignorant.

Actually, "ignorant" means ignorant. Idiot refers to persons with mental "disabilities."

http://www.autistichoya.com...

Definitions to words actually change over time. How the word is used in society at the moment means willfully ignorant.
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4/29/2014 1:48:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:46:19 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:43:58 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:42:08 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:37:12 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:31:44 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

It's a good way of suppressing unpopular views not suppressing idiotic views.

Still nothing wrong with "idiotic" views...

There is something wrong with idiotic views. I want all of my idiotic views exposed and eliminated. Idiotic doesn't mean retarded or mentally handicapped or low IQ in this society. On this society it means willfully ignorant.

Actually, "ignorant" means ignorant. Idiot refers to persons with mental "disabilities."

http://www.autistichoya.com...

Definitions to words actually change over time. How the word is used in society at the moment means willfully ignorant.

Why not say "willfully ignorant" then? Also:

Idiot:
1. a stupid person.
synonyms:fool, as*, halfwit, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, cretin, moron, imbecile, simpleton
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4/29/2014 1:50:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Possible options of replacements:

Asinine
Bad
Bleak
Boring
Bullish
Callous
Careless
Confusing
Contemptible
Coward
Crappy
Dense
Devoid of _____
Disgusting
Dull
Enraged
Evil
Extremist
Furious
Gross
Half-hearted
Horrible
Ignoramus
Ignorant
Impolite
Inane
Incomprehensible
Inconsiderate
Inconsistent
Infuriating
Insensible
Insipid
Irrational
Jerk
Lacking in _____
Livid
Mean
Nasty
Nefarious
Nonsense
Nonsensical
Obtuse
Outrageous
Overwrought
Paradoxical
Pathetic
Petulant
Pissant
Putrid
Rage-inducing
Reckless
Ridiculous
Rude
Scornful
Self-contradictory
Shameful
Solipsistic
Spurious
Terrible
Tyrannical
Unbelievable
Unconscionable
Unheard of
Uninspired
Unoriginal
Unthinkable
Unthinking
Useless
Vapid
Vile
Vomit-inducing
Without any _____ whatsoever
Wretched

(from http://www.autistichoya.com...)
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4/29/2014 1:51:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:45:07 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:42:32 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:41:28 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:31:43 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:18:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

You're an idiot.

Unfortunately, I tend to agree with you... maybe it was all the spam I got from jifpop, lol.

...still nothing wrong with being an idiot...

By "idiot" I don't just mean stupid. I also mean irritating...

"Irritating" might be a better term to use then, so it does not seem like there is anything wrong with being an idiot. See?

Don't be an idiot ;)
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"primal man had the habit, when he came into contact with fire, of satisfying the infantile desire connected with it, by putting it out with a stream of his urine... Putting out the fire by micturating was therefore a kind of sexual act with a male, an enjoyment of sexual potency in a homosexual competition."
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4/29/2014 1:53:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:51:20 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:45:07 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:42:32 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:41:28 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:31:43 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:18:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

You're an idiot.

Unfortunately, I tend to agree with you... maybe it was all the spam I got from jifpop, lol.

...still nothing wrong with being an idiot...

By "idiot" I don't just mean stupid. I also mean irritating...

"Irritating" might be a better term to use then, so it does not seem like there is anything wrong with being an idiot. See?

Don't be an idiot ;)

Yes, that is one example of a phrase that suggests that one should not resemble someone with a learning disability or who has a low intelligence score.
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4/29/2014 1:57:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:48:46 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:46:19 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:43:58 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:42:08 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:37:12 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:31:44 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

It's a good way of suppressing unpopular views not suppressing idiotic views.

Still nothing wrong with "idiotic" views...

There is something wrong with idiotic views. I want all of my idiotic views exposed and eliminated. Idiotic doesn't mean retarded or mentally handicapped or low IQ in this society. On this society it means willfully ignorant.

Actually, "ignorant" means ignorant. Idiot refers to persons with mental "disabilities."

http://www.autistichoya.com...

Definitions to words actually change over time. How the word is used in society at the moment means willfully ignorant.

Why not say "willfully ignorant" then? Also:

Idiot:
1. a stupid person.
synonyms:fool, as*, halfwit, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, cretin, moron, imbecile, simpleton

The word idiot has replaced the term willfully ignorant. Why say willfully ignorant when stupid conveys the meaning of what your saying faster and easier.

By researching the entire history of the word idiot and then finding a way to be offended by it is silly.

You'd also have to research the entire history of all those replacement words to make sure there is no possible way to be offended by those either. I don't think the average person has the time or inclination to do in depth research on every word they use to ensure they aren't being offensive. The only alternative to that heavy laden research is to only focus on what the modern usage of the word is typically trying to convey.
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4/29/2014 2:07:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:57:36 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:48:46 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:46:19 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:43:58 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:42:08 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:37:12 PM, kbub wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:31:44 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 4/29/2014 1:15:48 PM, Jifpop09 wrote:
Anyways, I personally believe that idiots need to be called out as idiots. When 50 people say it, they tend to quiet down. Grand strategy on suppressing stupid view points.

It's a good way of suppressing unpopular views not suppressing idiotic views.

Still nothing wrong with "idiotic" views...

There is something wrong with idiotic views. I want all of my idiotic views exposed and eliminated. Idiotic doesn't mean retarded or mentally handicapped or low IQ in this society. On this society it means willfully ignorant.

Actually, "ignorant" means ignorant. Idiot refers to persons with mental "disabilities."

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Definitions to words actually change over time. How the word is used in society at the moment means willfully ignorant.

Why not say "willfully ignorant" then? Also:

Idiot:
1. a stupid person.
synonyms:fool, as*, halfwit, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, cretin, moron, imbecile, simpleton

The word idiot has replaced the term willfully ignorant. Why say willfully ignorant when stupid conveys the meaning of what your saying faster and easier.

By researching the entire history of the word idiot and then finding a way to be offended by it is silly.

You'd also have to research the entire history of all those replacement words to make sure there is no possible way to be offended by those either. I don't think the average person has the time or inclination to do in depth research on every word they use to ensure they aren't being offensive. The only alternative to that heavy laden research is to only focus on what the modern usage of the word is typically trying to convey.

That's ok! I'll do the research for you. Otherwise, you can type "define idiot" into the google search engine.

The fact is people use ableist language all the time. You haven't explained to me why it is ok to do so. It's not hard to say ignorant instead of stupid. To me, swearing (a social taboo) is fine. The insult of "stupid" (not a social taboo) is actually harmful. The word "stupid" ought therefore to be more of a social taboo, rather than fvcked up and the like which are more heavily regulated.