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5/5/2014 10:21:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Jifpop has been indefinitely temp banned for several conduct violations. He ignored many warnings which culminated in my contacting him today. Rather than acknowledging this, he instead made several mass PMs, making this a public issue and justifying this thread.

I do not know how long his temp ban will be.
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5/5/2014 11:22:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I am very sad that jifpop has been banned today.

Let me restate that with the proper emphasis.

I am very said that jifpop has been banned *today.*

It was a long time coming and should have been ages ago.
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5/5/2014 11:25:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Smh....he was one of my best DDO friends :(
If he ever does get to return, I hope he'll come back as a reformed user.
R.I.P. Jifpop09, until then.
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5/5/2014 11:28:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/5/2014 11:25:08 PM, Romanii wrote:
Smh....he was once among my best friends on DDO :(
If he ever does get to return, I hope he'll come back as a reformed user.
R.I.P. Jifpop09, until then.

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5/6/2014 12:46:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/5/2014 10:21:45 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jifpop has been indefinitely temp banned for several conduct violations. He ignored many warnings which culminated in my contacting him today. Rather than acknowledging this, he instead made several mass PMs, making this a public issue and justifying this thread.

I do not know how long his temp ban will be.

But you don't see a good reason to ban YYW who has probably personally attacked more than five users this month?
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5/6/2014 12:56:10 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 12:46:01 AM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/5/2014 10:21:45 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jifpop has been indefinitely temp banned for several conduct violations. He ignored many warnings which culminated in my contacting him today. Rather than acknowledging this, he instead made several mass PMs, making this a public issue and justifying this thread.

I do not know how long his temp ban will be.

But you don't see a good reason to ban YYW who has probably personally attacked more than five users this month?

Every situation is unique. Even if what you say is true, the two circumstances aren't comparable. If you have a problem with a particular member you can contact me privately about it.
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5/6/2014 12:58:20 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Thank you for notifying us. I personally see this ban as a very good thing.

Still hoping the email reminder system gets improved (Jifpop broke mine with his spam).
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5/6/2014 1:40:41 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/5/2014 10:21:45 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jifpop has been indefinitely temp banned for several conduct violations. He ignored many warnings which culminated in my contacting him today. Rather than acknowledging this, he instead made several mass PMs, making this a public issue and justifying this thread.

I do not know how long his temp ban will be.

The PM was pretty interesting... So was he. Hopefully he comes back reformed like STALIN kind of did.
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5/6/2014 1:45:34 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'm not in the loop with Jifpop's behavior, but it sounds like the conduct violation resulting in a temp. ban was warranted mostly due to PM spamming and personal attacks? I think everyone has on this site has left spam or personally attacked somebody at one point or another, but maybe the frequency of this behavior increased its severity in this case?
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5/6/2014 1:45:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 12:56:10 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 5/6/2014 12:46:01 AM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/5/2014 10:21:45 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jifpop has been indefinitely temp banned for several conduct violations. He ignored many warnings which culminated in my contacting him today. Rather than acknowledging this, he instead made several mass PMs, making this a public issue and justifying this thread.

I do not know how long his temp ban will be.

But you don't see a good reason to ban YYW who has probably personally attacked more than five users this month?

Every situation is unique. Even if what you say is true, the two circumstances aren't comparable. If you have a problem with a particular member you can contact me privately about it.

Is this a roundabout way of saying this policy will only be used on problem members?

Imabench got banned for 3 days for saying faggot, and other members do worse and they get off.
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5/6/2014 1:55:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 1:45:59 AM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 5/6/2014 12:56:10 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 5/6/2014 12:46:01 AM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/5/2014 10:21:45 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jifpop has been indefinitely temp banned for several conduct violations. He ignored many warnings which culminated in my contacting him today. Rather than acknowledging this, he instead made several mass PMs, making this a public issue and justifying this thread.

I do not know how long his temp ban will be.

But you don't see a good reason to ban YYW who has probably personally attacked more than five users this month?

Every situation is unique. Even if what you say is true, the two circumstances aren't comparable. If you have a problem with a particular member you can contact me privately about it.

Is this a roundabout way of saying this policy will only be used on problem members?


For the past 2 years, bans and temp-bans of this sort have been reserved for habitual violators and that will continue to be the case. Jifpop (like other members are) was warned many times. He decided to ignore those warnings. It's very easy not to get banned or temp-banned. One has to ignore the explicit warnings and continue the behavior anyway. Today, not only were the warning ignored, but he ignored every attempt I made at having a discussion with him about it.

Imabench got banned for 3 days for saying faggot, and other members do worse and they get off.

His ban was actually longer, and it clearly had a broader context to it. Every case is unique, and can be evaluated on a case by case basis with the member's history in mind. If you feel that a member is doing something worse, be sure to let me know so I can deal with it appropriately. Also, pointing to poor behavior elsewhere, doesn't justify poor behavior in any case.
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5/6/2014 2:02:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 1:45:34 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
I'm not in the loop with Jifpop's behavior, but it sounds like the conduct violation resulting in a temp. ban was warranted mostly due to PM spamming and personal attacks? I think everyone has on this site has left spam or personally attacked somebody at one point or another, but maybe the frequency of this behavior increased its severity in this case?

Members make mistakes, no one has been temp-banned or banned for that. If it becomes a regular thing, they get a warning. If those warnings are ignored it becomes a more significant thing. Jifpop's conduct has been poor for a longer period of time. It's included personal attacks, threads specifically to attack members and other significant conduct violations. He was warned many times about these things and decided to ignore those warnings. Today, upon receiving a list of conduct he had violated just today (which followed an example from just the day before), rather than acknowledge the issue he decided to ignore me and send out the mass PMs instead. I think he sent out the mass PMs assuming a ban was a foregone conclusion. I can't be certain of that though, because, as I said, he refused to speak with me.
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5/6/2014 6:29:11 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Would it be rude if I asked where the cake was?

TBH, we were actually good friends and then he started pissing me off. We ended our friendship on a good note, I guess, where he apologized.

So Jif, if you see this, I hope this temp-ban allows you to take some time to think about your actions and reconsider them. I'm sure underneath it all, you're a great person and can make effective use of this site.

But seriously? I'm craving cake people.... Chocolate to be precise? No? No cake?... ;(
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5/6/2014 7:17:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 2:02:14 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 5/6/2014 1:45:34 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
I'm not in the loop with Jifpop's behavior, but it sounds like the conduct violation resulting in a temp. ban was warranted mostly due to PM spamming and personal attacks? I think everyone has on this site has left spam or personally attacked somebody at one point or another, but maybe the frequency of this behavior increased its severity in this case?

Members make mistakes, no one has been temp-banned or banned for that. If it becomes a regular thing, they get a warning. If those warnings are ignored it becomes a more significant thing. Jifpop's conduct has been poor for a longer period of time. It's included personal attacks, threads specifically to attack members and other significant conduct violations. He was warned many times about these things and decided to ignore those warnings. Today, upon receiving a list of conduct he had violated just today (which followed an example from just the day before), rather than acknowledge the issue he decided to ignore me and send out the mass PMs instead. I think he sent out the mass PMs assuming a ban was a foregone conclusion. I can't be certain of that though, because, as I said, he refused to speak with me.

He told me that you said you were going to ban him soon. That's why he sent the spam mail.
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which is what everyone else should also care about.

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5/6/2014 7:32:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/5/2014 10:21:45 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jifpop has been indefinitely temp banned for several conduct violations. He ignored many warnings which culminated in my contacting him today. Rather than acknowledging this, he instead made several mass PMs, making this a public issue and justifying this thread.

I do not know how long his temp ban will be.

Thanks!
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5/6/2014 7:41:26 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 1:40:41 AM, Pitbull15 wrote:
At 5/5/2014 10:21:45 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jifpop has been indefinitely temp banned for several conduct violations. He ignored many warnings which culminated in my contacting him today. Rather than acknowledging this, he instead made several mass PMs, making this a public issue and justifying this thread.

I do not know how long his temp ban will be.


The PM was pretty interesting... So was he. Hopefully he comes back reformed like STALIN kind of did.

And Zarroette.
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5/6/2014 7:44:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 6:49:30 AM, ararmer1919 wrote:
No respect anymore. Most hypocritical thing Iv seen on this site. No respect.

May I ask why you feel that way?
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5/6/2014 7:55:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 7:44:00 AM, Romanii wrote:
At 5/6/2014 6:49:30 AM, ararmer1919 wrote:
No respect anymore. Most hypocritical thing Iv seen on this site. No respect.

May I ask why you feel that way?

Because jif was banned but not the other guy, who was primarily the cause of this. That is hypocrisy. Either ban them both or ban no one. Either everyone applies to the consequences of the "rules" or no one does.
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5/6/2014 9:18:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 7:41:26 AM, Romanii wrote:
At 5/6/2014 1:40:41 AM, Pitbull15 wrote:
At 5/5/2014 10:21:45 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jifpop has been indefinitely temp banned for several conduct violations. He ignored many warnings which culminated in my contacting him today. Rather than acknowledging this, he instead made several mass PMs, making this a public issue and justifying this thread.

I do not know how long his temp ban will be.


The PM was pretty interesting... So was he. Hopefully he comes back reformed like STALIN kind of did.

And Zarroette.

...She came back?
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5/6/2014 10:54:40 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 7:55:22 AM, Smithereens wrote:
I wonder if he'll flip town or scum in spy mafia....

Lol, lets find out.

VTL Jifpop
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5/6/2014 11:00:30 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 7:55:59 AM, ararmer1919 wrote:
At 5/6/2014 7:44:00 AM, Romanii wrote:
At 5/6/2014 6:49:30 AM, ararmer1919 wrote:
No respect anymore. Most hypocritical thing Iv seen on this site. No respect.

May I ask why you feel that way?

Because jif was banned but not the other guy, who was primarily the cause of this. That is hypocrisy. Either ban them both or ban no one. Either everyone applies to the consequences of the "rules" or no one does.

I actually think the other guy is a little worse than Jif. There are many people here that I would not say deserve to be banned, but would deserve a ban more than Jif did.
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5/6/2014 11:03:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 9:18:46 AM, Pitbull15 wrote:
At 5/6/2014 7:41:26 AM, Romanii wrote:
At 5/6/2014 1:40:41 AM, Pitbull15 wrote:
At 5/5/2014 10:21:45 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jifpop has been indefinitely temp banned for several conduct violations. He ignored many warnings which culminated in my contacting him today. Rather than acknowledging this, he instead made several mass PMs, making this a public issue and justifying this thread.

I do not know how long his temp ban will be.


The PM was pretty interesting... So was he. Hopefully he comes back reformed like STALIN kind of did.

And Zarroette.

...She came back?

Not yet.

Where the hell did STALIN go?
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5/6/2014 11:12:36 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 11:00:30 AM, SNP1 wrote:
At 5/6/2014 7:55:59 AM, ararmer1919 wrote:
At 5/6/2014 7:44:00 AM, Romanii wrote:
At 5/6/2014 6:49:30 AM, ararmer1919 wrote:
No respect anymore. Most hypocritical thing Iv seen on this site. No respect.

May I ask why you feel that way?

Because jif was banned but not the other guy, who was primarily the cause of this. That is hypocrisy. Either ban them both or ban no one. Either everyone applies to the consequences of the "rules" or no one does.

I actually think the other guy is a little worse than Jif. There are many people here that I would not say deserve to be banned, but would deserve a ban more than Jif did.

Exactly.
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5/6/2014 11:32:34 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
If someone else is more deserving of reprimand (hard burden to meet, more so given his response to the moderator), that in itself does not invalidate the case in question. Imagine someone trying to quote the verdict on the R. Kelly trail as a defense... just because there may be worse offenders who were not punished, does not mean others should be tolerated.
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5/6/2014 12:16:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/5/2014 10:21:45 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jifpop has been indefinitely temp banned for several conduct violations. He ignored many warnings which culminated in my contacting him today. Rather than acknowledging this, he instead made several mass PMs, making this a public issue and justifying this thread.

I do not know how long his temp ban will be.

Ban is not the solution. Stop these bans and come out with a different and better ideas to solve the issue. Ban's are ruining the site.
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5/6/2014 12:21:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 12:16:07 PM, Krazzy_Player wrote:
At 5/5/2014 10:21:45 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jifpop has been indefinitely temp banned for several conduct violations. He ignored many warnings which culminated in my contacting him today. Rather than acknowledging this, he instead made several mass PMs, making this a public issue and justifying this thread.

I do not know how long his temp ban will be.

Ban is not the solution. Stop these bans and come out with a different and better ideas to solve the issue. Ban's are ruining the site.

Banning is necessary to stop spammers and bad trolls.
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5/6/2014 4:53:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/6/2014 12:16:07 PM, Krazzy_Player wrote:
At 5/5/2014 10:21:45 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jifpop has been indefinitely temp banned for several conduct violations. He ignored many warnings which culminated in my contacting him today. Rather than acknowledging this, he instead made several mass PMs, making this a public issue and justifying this thread.

I do not know how long his temp ban will be.

Ban is not the solution. Stop these bans and come out with a different and better ideas to solve the issue. Ban's are ruining the site.

Well if you harass someones family and call them a f***t, F**ker, B**tch and spam over 30 forums posts about it. Then the ban is well deserved.

Look what it did for you