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5/14/2014 4:45:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Before someone asks, it's official because I said so. Now, moving on!

Rules for gamblers:
Must have been on the site for at least three months.
Can neither be in nor judge the debate being gambled on.

Eligible debates:
Debates eligible for gambling must be between two debaters that have an ELO of equal to or greater than 4500
All betting must take place before initial arguments are posted, so first round is always for acceptance.

How it works:
Once you sign up, you are given 200 debate points. These points are used to bet. Now, let's say there is a debate between Mikal and bluesteel, with five members betting on it. Members A and B both are betting on Mikal, with 100 points from A, 75 from B. Members C, D, and E bet for bluesteel, C betting 200, the other two betting 100. The points are taken from their accounts (kept track of here: https://docs.google.com...), and when the debate is over, points are distributed. With 575 points going in, here are the results,

if Mikal wins.

The A:B ratio is 4:3, so A gets 4/7 of the points (rounding up, so 379) while B gets the rest (575-379=196).

If bluesteel wins.

The C:D:E ratio is 2:1:1, so C gets half the points (again rounding up, so 288), while the other two split up the remainder of 287. In situations like this, the member with the higher ELO gets the extra point, which we'll just say is member D. So, D gets 144, E gets 143.
#UnbanTheMadman

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"bossy r u like 85 years old and have lost ur mind"
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"I've honestly never seen seventh post anything that wasn't completely idiotic in a trying-to-be-funny way."
~F-16

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5/14/2014 4:46:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Signups
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To infinity!
#UnbanTheMadman

#StandWithBossy

#BetOnThett

"bossy r u like 85 years old and have lost ur mind"
~mysteriouscrystals

"I've honestly never seen seventh post anything that wasn't completely idiotic in a trying-to-be-funny way."
~F-16

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5/14/2014 4:47:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/14/2014 4:45:02 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
Before someone asks, it's official because I said so. Now, moving on!

Rules for gamblers:
Must have been on the site for at least three months.
Can neither be in nor judge the debate being gambled on.

Eligible debates:
Debates eligible for gambling must be between two debaters that have an ELO of equal to or greater than 4500

That's dumb. Unless you mean their ELO's added together equals that, but individually very few debates between people of these rankings happen

Besides, ELO doesn't mean anything.

All betting must take place before initial arguments are posted, so first round is always for acceptance.

How it works:
Once you sign up, you are given 200 debate points. These points are used to bet. Now, let's say there is a debate between Mikal and bluesteel, with five members betting on it. Members A and B both are betting on Mikal, with 100 points from A, 75 from B. Members C, D, and E bet for bluesteel, C betting 200, the other two betting 100. The points are taken from their accounts (kept track of here: https://docs.google.com...), and when the debate is over, points are distributed. With 575 points going in, here are the results,

if Mikal wins.

The A:B ratio is 4:3, so A gets 4/7 of the points (rounding up, so 379) while B gets the rest (575-379=196).

If bluesteel wins.

The C:D:E ratio is 2:1:1, so C gets half the points (again rounding up, so 288), while the other two split up the remainder of 287. In situations like this, the member with the higher ELO gets the extra point, which we'll just say is member D. So, D gets 144, E gets 143.
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5/14/2014 4:48:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/14/2014 4:45:02 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
Before someone asks, it's official because I said so. Now, moving on!

Rules for gamblers:
Must have been on the site for at least three months.
Can neither be in nor judge the debate being gambled on.

Eligible debates:
Debates eligible for gambling must be between two debaters that have an ELO of equal to or greater than 4500
All betting must take place before initial arguments are posted, so first round is always for acceptance.

How it works:
Once you sign up, you are given 200 debate points. These points are used to bet. Now, let's say there is a debate between Mikal and bluesteel, with five members betting on it. Members A and B both are betting on Mikal, with 100 points from A, 75 from B. Members C, D, and E bet for bluesteel, C betting 200, the other two betting 100. The points are taken from their accounts (kept track of here: https://docs.google.com...), and when the debate is over, points are distributed. With 575 points going in, here are the results,

if Mikal wins.

The A:B ratio is 4:3, so A gets 4/7 of the points (rounding up, so 379) while B gets the rest (575-379=196).

If bluesteel wins.

The C:D:E ratio is 2:1:1, so C gets half the points (again rounding up, so 288), while the other two split up the remainder of 287. In situations like this, the member with the higher ELO gets the extra point, which we'll just say is member D. So, D gets 144, E gets 143.

So...no real money is used? What is this, then? Is it supposed to be some kind of imaginary "point" system where people spend hours on this Site trying to gain the most of these imaginary points, kind of like ELO?
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5/14/2014 4:49:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/14/2014 4:47:30 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:45:02 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
Before someone asks, it's official because I said so. Now, moving on!

Rules for gamblers:
Must have been on the site for at least three months.
Can neither be in nor judge the debate being gambled on.

Eligible debates:
Debates eligible for gambling must be between two debaters that have an ELO of equal to or greater than 4500

That's dumb. Unless you mean their ELO's added together equals that, but individually very few debates between people of these rankings happen

Besides, ELO doesn't mean anything.

Yeah, that's what I meant, I probably should have phrased it better.
#UnbanTheMadman

#StandWithBossy

#BetOnThett

"bossy r u like 85 years old and have lost ur mind"
~mysteriouscrystals

"I've honestly never seen seventh post anything that wasn't completely idiotic in a trying-to-be-funny way."
~F-16

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5/14/2014 4:50:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/14/2014 4:49:11 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:47:30 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:45:02 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
Before someone asks, it's official because I said so. Now, moving on!

Rules for gamblers:
Must have been on the site for at least three months.
Can neither be in nor judge the debate being gambled on.

Eligible debates:
Debates eligible for gambling must be between two debaters that have an ELO of equal to or greater than 4500

That's dumb. Unless you mean their ELO's added together equals that, but individually very few debates between people of these rankings happen

Besides, ELO doesn't mean anything.

Yeah, that's what I meant, I probably should have phrased it better.

But, on second thought, a min ELO of 3000 from each side separately seems better.
#UnbanTheMadman

#StandWithBossy

#BetOnThett

"bossy r u like 85 years old and have lost ur mind"
~mysteriouscrystals

"I've honestly never seen seventh post anything that wasn't completely idiotic in a trying-to-be-funny way."
~F-16

https://docs.google.com...
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5/14/2014 4:54:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/14/2014 4:48:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:45:02 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
Before someone asks, it's official because I said so. Now, moving on!

Rules for gamblers:
Must have been on the site for at least three months.
Can neither be in nor judge the debate being gambled on.

Eligible debates:
Debates eligible for gambling must be between two debaters that have an ELO of equal to or greater than 4500
All betting must take place before initial arguments are posted, so first round is always for acceptance.

How it works:
Once you sign up, you are given 200 debate points. These points are used to bet. Now, let's say there is a debate between Mikal and bluesteel, with five members betting on it. Members A and B both are betting on Mikal, with 100 points from A, 75 from B. Members C, D, and E bet for bluesteel, C betting 200, the other two betting 100. The points are taken from their accounts (kept track of here: https://docs.google.com...), and when the debate is over, points are distributed. With 575 points going in, here are the results,

if Mikal wins.

The A:B ratio is 4:3, so A gets 4/7 of the points (rounding up, so 379) while B gets the rest (575-379=196).

If bluesteel wins.

The C:D:E ratio is 2:1:1, so C gets half the points (again rounding up, so 288), while the other two split up the remainder of 287. In situations like this, the member with the higher ELO gets the extra point, which we'll just say is member D. So, D gets 144, E gets 143.

So...no real money is used? What is this, then? Is it supposed to be some kind of imaginary "point" system where people spend hours on this Site trying to gain the most of these imaginary points, kind of like ELO?

It's essentially an unofficial ELO, but I'll post a leaderboard at the start of every month in the misc section, so everyone can brag about it in the same way they do with ELO.
#UnbanTheMadman

#StandWithBossy

#BetOnThett

"bossy r u like 85 years old and have lost ur mind"
~mysteriouscrystals

"I've honestly never seen seventh post anything that wasn't completely idiotic in a trying-to-be-funny way."
~F-16

https://docs.google.com...
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5/14/2014 4:55:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/14/2014 4:54:55 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:48:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:45:02 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
Before someone asks, it's official because I said so. Now, moving on!

Rules for gamblers:
Must have been on the site for at least three months.
Can neither be in nor judge the debate being gambled on.

Eligible debates:
Debates eligible for gambling must be between two debaters that have an ELO of equal to or greater than 4500
All betting must take place before initial arguments are posted, so first round is always for acceptance.

How it works:
Once you sign up, you are given 200 debate points. These points are used to bet. Now, let's say there is a debate between Mikal and bluesteel, with five members betting on it. Members A and B both are betting on Mikal, with 100 points from A, 75 from B. Members C, D, and E bet for bluesteel, C betting 200, the other two betting 100. The points are taken from their accounts (kept track of here: https://docs.google.com...), and when the debate is over, points are distributed. With 575 points going in, here are the results,

if Mikal wins.

The A:B ratio is 4:3, so A gets 4/7 of the points (rounding up, so 379) while B gets the rest (575-379=196).

If bluesteel wins.

The C:D:E ratio is 2:1:1, so C gets half the points (again rounding up, so 288), while the other two split up the remainder of 287. In situations like this, the member with the higher ELO gets the extra point, which we'll just say is member D. So, D gets 144, E gets 143.

So...no real money is used? What is this, then? Is it supposed to be some kind of imaginary "point" system where people spend hours on this Site trying to gain the most of these imaginary points, kind of like ELO?

It's essentially an unofficial ELO, but I'll post a leaderboard at the start of every month in the misc section, so everyone can brag about it in the same way they do with ELO.

And if you ever left the Site, this system would come crashing down.
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5/14/2014 4:59:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'm with thett on this. It is an interesting idea, but there have been plenty of debates worth betting on between users with less than 4500 elo.
Examples
-whiteflame vs. Wylted
-RoyLatham vs. kbub
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5/14/2014 5:11:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/14/2014 4:55:31 PM, Crescendo wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:54:55 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:48:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:45:02 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
Before someone asks, it's official because I said so. Now, moving on!

Rules for gamblers:
Must have been on the site for at least three months.
Can neither be in nor judge the debate being gambled on.

Eligible debates:
Debates eligible for gambling must be between two debaters that have an ELO of equal to or greater than 4500
All betting must take place before initial arguments are posted, so first round is always for acceptance.

How it works:
Once you sign up, you are given 200 debate points. These points are used to bet. Now, let's say there is a debate between Mikal and bluesteel, with five members betting on it. Members A and B both are betting on Mikal, with 100 points from A, 75 from B. Members C, D, and E bet for bluesteel, C betting 200, the other two betting 100. The points are taken from their accounts (kept track of here: https://docs.google.com...), and when the debate is over, points are distributed. With 575 points going in, here are the results,

if Mikal wins.

The A:B ratio is 4:3, so A gets 4/7 of the points (rounding up, so 379) while B gets the rest (575-379=196).

If bluesteel wins.

The C:D:E ratio is 2:1:1, so C gets half the points (again rounding up, so 288), while the other two split up the remainder of 287. In situations like this, the member with the higher ELO gets the extra point, which we'll just say is member D. So, D gets 144, E gets 143.

So...no real money is used? What is this, then? Is it supposed to be some kind of imaginary "point" system where people spend hours on this Site trying to gain the most of these imaginary points, kind of like ELO?

It's essentially an unofficial ELO, but I'll post a leaderboard at the start of every month in the misc section, so everyone can brag about it in the same way they do with ELO.

And if you ever left the Site, this system would come crashing down.

There are plenty of statistic nerds that would be willing to take over, and, as you have said, they may have to a few times.
#UnbanTheMadman

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5/14/2014 5:12:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/14/2014 4:59:41 PM, Romanii wrote:
I'm with thett on this. It is an interesting idea, but there have been plenty of debates worth betting on between users with less than 4500 elo.
Examples
-whiteflame vs. Wylted
-RoyLatham vs. kbub

See above. It's been changed to 3000
#UnbanTheMadman

#StandWithBossy

#BetOnThett

"bossy r u like 85 years old and have lost ur mind"
~mysteriouscrystals

"I've honestly never seen seventh post anything that wasn't completely idiotic in a trying-to-be-funny way."
~F-16

https://docs.google.com...
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5/14/2014 5:12:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/14/2014 5:11:52 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:55:31 PM, Crescendo wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:54:55 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:48:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:45:02 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
Before someone asks, it's official because I said so. Now, moving on!

Rules for gamblers:
Must have been on the site for at least three months.
Can neither be in nor judge the debate being gambled on.

Eligible debates:
Debates eligible for gambling must be between two debaters that have an ELO of equal to or greater than 4500
All betting must take place before initial arguments are posted, so first round is always for acceptance.

How it works:
Once you sign up, you are given 200 debate points. These points are used to bet. Now, let's say there is a debate between Mikal and bluesteel, with five members betting on it. Members A and B both are betting on Mikal, with 100 points from A, 75 from B. Members C, D, and E bet for bluesteel, C betting 200, the other two betting 100. The points are taken from their accounts (kept track of here: https://docs.google.com...), and when the debate is over, points are distributed. With 575 points going in, here are the results,

if Mikal wins.

The A:B ratio is 4:3, so A gets 4/7 of the points (rounding up, so 379) while B gets the rest (575-379=196).

If bluesteel wins.

The C:D:E ratio is 2:1:1, so C gets half the points (again rounding up, so 288), while the other two split up the remainder of 287. In situations like this, the member with the higher ELO gets the extra point, which we'll just say is member D. So, D gets 144, E gets 143.

So...no real money is used? What is this, then? Is it supposed to be some kind of imaginary "point" system where people spend hours on this Site trying to gain the most of these imaginary points, kind of like ELO?

It's essentially an unofficial ELO, but I'll post a leaderboard at the start of every month in the misc section, so everyone can brag about it in the same way they do with ELO.

And if you ever left the Site, this system would come crashing down.

There are plenty of statistic nerds that would be willing to take over, and, as you have said, they may have to a few times.

I suppose you're right. But first, you'll have to get people to sign up.
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5/14/2014 5:16:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/14/2014 5:12:57 PM, Crescendo wrote:
At 5/14/2014 5:11:52 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:55:31 PM, Crescendo wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:54:55 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:48:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
At 5/14/2014 4:45:02 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
Before someone asks, it's official because I said so. Now, moving on!

Rules for gamblers:
Must have been on the site for at least three months.
Can neither be in nor judge the debate being gambled on.

Eligible debates:
Debates eligible for gambling must be between two debaters that have an ELO of equal to or greater than 4500
All betting must take place before initial arguments are posted, so first round is always for acceptance.

How it works:
Once you sign up, you are given 200 debate points. These points are used to bet. Now, let's say there is a debate between Mikal and bluesteel, with five members betting on it. Members A and B both are betting on Mikal, with 100 points from A, 75 from B. Members C, D, and E bet for bluesteel, C betting 200, the other two betting 100. The points are taken from their accounts (kept track of here: https://docs.google.com...), and when the debate is over, points are distributed. With 575 points going in, here are the results,

if Mikal wins.

The A:B ratio is 4:3, so A gets 4/7 of the points (rounding up, so 379) while B gets the rest (575-379=196).

If bluesteel wins.

The C:D:E ratio is 2:1:1, so C gets half the points (again rounding up, so 288), while the other two split up the remainder of 287. In situations like this, the member with the higher ELO gets the extra point, which we'll just say is member D. So, D gets 144, E gets 143.

So...no real money is used? What is this, then? Is it supposed to be some kind of imaginary "point" system where people spend hours on this Site trying to gain the most of these imaginary points, kind of like ELO?

It's essentially an unofficial ELO, but I'll post a leaderboard at the start of every month in the misc section, so everyone can brag about it in the same way they do with ELO.

And if you ever left the Site, this system would come crashing down.

There are plenty of statistic nerds that would be willing to take over, and, as you have said, they may have to a few times.

I suppose you're right. But first, you'll have to get people to sign up.

The answer to that, my dear
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5/14/2014 5:37:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
The entire point of the gambling ring was that it was run on votes to encourage voting...
Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org...

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5/14/2014 8:08:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/14/2014 8:07:25 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 5/14/2014 6:26:40 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Inb4 vote fraud to secure gambling wins

WOT DAT MEAN

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