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5/22/2014 11:22:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
People should really participate in Edeb8. It has so many good features that makes it worthy of your time, and a dedicated admin who works 24/7 adding more features, that don't even get used. There's no members.

Its astounding, as the debates literally give you a million more options. I'm not asking people to leave here, but to maybe take a debate once a month there. Lars pretty much assures your debate will be taken.

The main reason though, is debate.org needs competition. Edeb8 is the force needed to push Juggle into submission!!! (Revolt People).
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5/22/2014 11:29:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:22:46 PM, Csareo wrote:
People should really participate in Edeb8. It has so many good features that makes it worthy of your time, and a dedicated admin who works 24/7 adding more features, that don't even get used. There's no members.

Its astounding, as the debates literally give you a million more options. I'm not asking people to leave here, but to maybe take a debate once a month there. Lars pretty much assures your debate will be taken.

The main reason though, is debate.org needs competition. Edeb8 is the force needed to push Juggle into submission!!! (Revolt People).

You're an admin on edb8? Nice. Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven, eh? lol I kid. I kid.

I encourage anyone who is dissatisfied with DDO as a site or its moderation to pursue other alternatives. After all, the internet is a vast and open place. There is no reason to stay in a place that one finds intolerable.
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5/22/2014 11:32:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:29:02 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:22:46 PM, Csareo wrote:
People should really participate in Edeb8. It has so many good features that makes it worthy of your time, and a dedicated admin who works 24/7 adding more features, that don't even get used. There's no members.

Its astounding, as the debates literally give you a million more options. I'm not asking people to leave here, but to maybe take a debate once a month there. Lars pretty much assures your debate will be taken.

The main reason though, is debate.org needs competition. Edeb8 is the force needed to push Juggle into submission!!! (Revolt People).

You're an admin on edb8? Nice. Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven, eh? lol I kid. I kid.

I actually really like that site, and don't want to do anything to harm it. There isn't a lot of active members, so its not a huge deal.

I encourage anyone who is dissatisfied with DDO as a site or its moderation to pursue other alternatives. After all, the internet is a vast and open place. There is no reason to stay in a place that one finds intolerable.

All I'm saying is that people who aren't overtly busy, should take the time to go over there every once in awhile.
http://www.edeb8.com...

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5/22/2014 11:38:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

I'm confused...
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5/22/2014 11:38:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:38:18 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

I'm confused...

hes a moderator.

just wtf
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5/22/2014 11:39:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:32:25 PM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:29:02 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:22:46 PM, Csareo wrote:
People should really participate in Edeb8. It has so many good features that makes it worthy of your time, and a dedicated admin who works 24/7 adding more features, that don't even get used. There's no members.

Its astounding, as the debates literally give you a million more options. I'm not asking people to leave here, but to maybe take a debate once a month there. Lars pretty much assures your debate will be taken.

The main reason though, is debate.org needs competition. Edeb8 is the force needed to push Juggle into submission!!! (Revolt People).

You're an admin on edb8? Nice. Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven, eh? lol I kid. I kid.

I actually really like that site, and don't want to do anything to harm it. There isn't a lot of active members, so its not a huge deal.

I encourage anyone who is dissatisfied with DDO as a site or its moderation to pursue other alternatives. After all, the internet is a vast and open place. There is no reason to stay in a place that one finds intolerable.

All I'm saying is that people who aren't overtly busy, should take the time to go over there every once in awhile.

Right, and that's fine. I'm offering the additional suggestion that those who have problems with moderation or have unreconcilable member issues might give consideration to spending their time elsewhere. Again, the internet is a vast and open place. There's no reason to stay where it's intolerable.
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5/22/2014 11:40:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

Please do not instigate

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.
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5/22/2014 11:40:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:39:52 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:32:25 PM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:29:02 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:22:46 PM, Csareo wrote:
People should really participate in Edeb8. It has so many good features that makes it worthy of your time, and a dedicated admin who works 24/7 adding more features, that don't even get used. There's no members.

Its astounding, as the debates literally give you a million more options. I'm not asking people to leave here, but to maybe take a debate once a month there. Lars pretty much assures your debate will be taken.

The main reason though, is debate.org needs competition. Edeb8 is the force needed to push Juggle into submission!!! (Revolt People).

You're an admin on edb8? Nice. Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven, eh? lol I kid. I kid.

I actually really like that site, and don't want to do anything to harm it. There isn't a lot of active members, so its not a huge deal.

I encourage anyone who is dissatisfied with DDO as a site or its moderation to pursue other alternatives. After all, the internet is a vast and open place. There is no reason to stay in a place that one finds intolerable.

All I'm saying is that people who aren't overtly busy, should take the time to go over there every once in awhile.

Right, and that's fine. I'm offering the additional suggestion that those who have problems with moderation or have unreconcilable member issues might give consideration to spending their time elsewhere. Again, the internet is a vast and open place. There's no reason to stay where it's intolerable.

I'm a very fair mod actually :)
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5/22/2014 11:40:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:40:07 PM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

Please do not instigate

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

that is a formal thank you, not instigation
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5/22/2014 11:40:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:38:39 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:38:18 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

I'm confused...

hes a moderator.

just wtf

Ahh, yes. But that's the beauty of the internet, right? If you don't like things here, you can leave. It's the ultimate freedom.
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5/22/2014 11:41:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:40:36 PM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:39:52 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:32:25 PM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:29:02 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:22:46 PM, Csareo wrote:
People should really participate in Edeb8. It has so many good features that makes it worthy of your time, and a dedicated admin who works 24/7 adding more features, that don't even get used. There's no members.

Its astounding, as the debates literally give you a million more options. I'm not asking people to leave here, but to maybe take a debate once a month there. Lars pretty much assures your debate will be taken.

The main reason though, is debate.org needs competition. Edeb8 is the force needed to push Juggle into submission!!! (Revolt People).

You're an admin on edb8? Nice. Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven, eh? lol I kid. I kid.

I actually really like that site, and don't want to do anything to harm it. There isn't a lot of active members, so its not a huge deal.

I encourage anyone who is dissatisfied with DDO as a site or its moderation to pursue other alternatives. After all, the internet is a vast and open place. There is no reason to stay in a place that one finds intolerable.

All I'm saying is that people who aren't overtly busy, should take the time to go over there every once in awhile.

Right, and that's fine. I'm offering the additional suggestion that those who have problems with moderation or have unreconcilable member issues might give consideration to spending their time elsewhere. Again, the internet is a vast and open place. There's no reason to stay where it's intolerable.

I'm a very fair mod actually :)

Of course.
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5/22/2014 11:41:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

I don't appreciate this comment. What's your problem with larzthelosers site? After all the crap he has gotten for other stuff, I think it is at least fair to say he did a great job with his site and that the features should be used for good rather than rotting away simply because of some bad blood over something else presumably.
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5/22/2014 11:44:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:41:22 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

I don't appreciate this comment. What's your problem with larzthelosers site? After all the crap he has gotten for other stuff, I think it is at least fair to say he did a great job with his site and that the features should be used for good rather than rotting away simply because of some bad blood over something else presumably.

no problem with larz, I question his judgment a lot though. Specifically if he made jif a moderator. I like the idea and the reasons he made it for, I just disagree with a lot of his calls lately
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5/22/2014 11:58:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
BTW, Edeb8 is going through its first team debate. You can participate in this open beta, by joining either Team Takbear or the progressives. The debate will go on for the next 6 days.
http://www.edeb8.com...

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5/22/2014 11:59:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:44:51 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:41:22 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

I don't appreciate this comment. What's your problem with larzthelosers site? After all the crap he has gotten for other stuff, I think it is at least fair to say he did a great job with his site and that the features should be used for good rather than rotting away simply because of some bad blood over something else presumably.

no problem with larz, I question his judgment a lot though. Specifically if he made jif a moderator. I like the idea and the reasons he made it for, I just disagree with a lot of his calls lately

So you want his hard work over at edb8 to suffer because you disagree with him? Most of the stuff he created over there was to help remediate the problems DDO was facing; it was intended as a service. That aside being thankful at the idea that his site full of good things that you, me, and so many others have advocated for might suffer doesn't make much sense to me if you really had no problem with larz.
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5/23/2014 12:03:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:59:13 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:44:51 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:41:22 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

I don't appreciate this comment. What's your problem with larzthelosers site? After all the crap he has gotten for other stuff, I think it is at least fair to say he did a great job with his site and that the features should be used for good rather than rotting away simply because of some bad blood over something else presumably.

no problem with larz, I question his judgment a lot though. Specifically if he made jif a moderator. I like the idea and the reasons he made it for, I just disagree with a lot of his calls lately

So you want his hard work over at edb8 to suffer because you disagree with him? Most of the stuff he created over there was to help remediate the problems DDO was facing; it was intended as a service. That aside being thankful at the idea that his site full of good things that you, me, and so many others have advocated for might suffer doesn't make much sense to me if you really had no problem with larz.

I think Mikal's problem with Larz begins and ends with Larz's decision to make Jifpop an admin, and I think that's a fair criticism for reasons that we're all probably aware of. His site, as it is designed, is fine. The, or, rather, my issue with the site is its membership.
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5/23/2014 12:07:26 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:58:41 PM, Csareo wrote:
BTW, Edeb8 is going through its first team debate. You can participate in this open beta, by joining either Team Takbear or the progressives. The debate will go on for the next 6 days.

I thought they had team debates since they first open?
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5/23/2014 12:07:43 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 12:03:56 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:59:13 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:44:51 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:41:22 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

I don't appreciate this comment. What's your problem with larzthelosers site? After all the crap he has gotten for other stuff, I think it is at least fair to say he did a great job with his site and that the features should be used for good rather than rotting away simply because of some bad blood over something else presumably.

no problem with larz, I question his judgment a lot though. Specifically if he made jif a moderator. I like the idea and the reasons he made it for, I just disagree with a lot of his calls lately

So you want his hard work over at edb8 to suffer because you disagree with him? Most of the stuff he created over there was to help remediate the problems DDO was facing; it was intended as a service. That aside being thankful at the idea that his site full of good things that you, me, and so many others have advocated for might suffer doesn't make much sense to me if you really had no problem with larz.

I think Mikal's problem with Larz begins and ends with Larz's decision to make Jifpop an admin, and I think that's a fair criticism for reasons that we're all probably aware of. His site, as it is designed, is fine. The, or, rather, my issue with the site is its membership.

I keep telling the guy to invest in adwords or accept bots. He can't expect to get traffic if you have to go three pages deep when searching "debate site"

His sites pretty much off the map
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5/23/2014 12:08:35 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 12:07:26 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:58:41 PM, Csareo wrote:
BTW, Edeb8 is going through its first team debate. You can participate in this open beta, by joining either Team Takbear or the progressives. The debate will go on for the next 6 days.

I thought they had team debates since they first open?

This is the first one to be created and accepted by both sides. We had some initital bugs, which deleted the team draft though.
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5/23/2014 12:08:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 12:07:43 AM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/23/2014 12:03:56 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:59:13 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:44:51 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:41:22 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

I don't appreciate this comment. What's your problem with larzthelosers site? After all the crap he has gotten for other stuff, I think it is at least fair to say he did a great job with his site and that the features should be used for good rather than rotting away simply because of some bad blood over something else presumably.

no problem with larz, I question his judgment a lot though. Specifically if he made jif a moderator. I like the idea and the reasons he made it for, I just disagree with a lot of his calls lately

So you want his hard work over at edb8 to suffer because you disagree with him? Most of the stuff he created over there was to help remediate the problems DDO was facing; it was intended as a service. That aside being thankful at the idea that his site full of good things that you, me, and so many others have advocated for might suffer doesn't make much sense to me if you really had no problem with larz.

I think Mikal's problem with Larz begins and ends with Larz's decision to make Jifpop an admin, and I think that's a fair criticism for reasons that we're all probably aware of. His site, as it is designed, is fine. The, or, rather, my issue with the site is its membership.

I keep telling the guy to invest in adwords or accept bots. He can't expect to get traffic if you have to go three pages deep when searching "debate site"

His sites pretty much off the map

That's not entirely bad. When you get to the top of the map, you get more "trolls" and "social" people. If you only want the in depth members, you have to farm them from other sites.
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5/23/2014 12:13:21 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 12:08:54 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 5/23/2014 12:07:43 AM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/23/2014 12:03:56 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:59:13 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:44:51 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:41:22 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

I don't appreciate this comment. What's your problem with larzthelosers site? After all the crap he has gotten for other stuff, I think it is at least fair to say he did a great job with his site and that the features should be used for good rather than rotting away simply because of some bad blood over something else presumably.

no problem with larz, I question his judgment a lot though. Specifically if he made jif a moderator. I like the idea and the reasons he made it for, I just disagree with a lot of his calls lately

So you want his hard work over at edb8 to suffer because you disagree with him? Most of the stuff he created over there was to help remediate the problems DDO was facing; it was intended as a service. That aside being thankful at the idea that his site full of good things that you, me, and so many others have advocated for might suffer doesn't make much sense to me if you really had no problem with larz.

I think Mikal's problem with Larz begins and ends with Larz's decision to make Jifpop an admin, and I think that's a fair criticism for reasons that we're all probably aware of. His site, as it is designed, is fine. The, or, rather, my issue with the site is its membership.

I keep telling the guy to invest in adwords or accept bots. He can't expect to get traffic if you have to go three pages deep when searching "debate site"

His sites pretty much off the map

That's not entirely bad. When you get to the top of the map, you get more "trolls" and "social" people. If you only want the in depth members, you have to farm them from other sites.

That was his excuse. I reason he could flood traffic while also stepping up moderation. The current situation isn't working though. There are about 7 fully active members, and the rest just come and go occasionally.
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5/23/2014 12:17:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 12:07:43 AM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/23/2014 12:03:56 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:59:13 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:44:51 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:41:22 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

I don't appreciate this comment. What's your problem with larzthelosers site? After all the crap he has gotten for other stuff, I think it is at least fair to say he did a great job with his site and that the features should be used for good rather than rotting away simply because of some bad blood over something else presumably.

no problem with larz, I question his judgment a lot though. Specifically if he made jif a moderator. I like the idea and the reasons he made it for, I just disagree with a lot of his calls lately

So you want his hard work over at edb8 to suffer because you disagree with him? Most of the stuff he created over there was to help remediate the problems DDO was facing; it was intended as a service. That aside being thankful at the idea that his site full of good things that you, me, and so many others have advocated for might suffer doesn't make much sense to me if you really had no problem with larz.

I think Mikal's problem with Larz begins and ends with Larz's decision to make Jifpop an admin, and I think that's a fair criticism for reasons that we're all probably aware of. His site, as it is designed, is fine. The, or, rather, my issue with the site is its membership.

I keep telling the guy to invest in adwords or accept bots. He can't expect to get traffic if you have to go three pages deep when searching "debate site"

His sites pretty much off the map

If Larz wants more members, I'm sure he'll have a way to make that happen. I don't think he does. I think he likes the member base limited... but I could very well may be wrong.
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5/23/2014 12:21:42 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 12:17:22 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/23/2014 12:07:43 AM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/23/2014 12:03:56 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:59:13 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:44:51 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:41:22 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

I don't appreciate this comment. What's your problem with larzthelosers site? After all the crap he has gotten for other stuff, I think it is at least fair to say he did a great job with his site and that the features should be used for good rather than rotting away simply because of some bad blood over something else presumably.

no problem with larz, I question his judgment a lot though. Specifically if he made jif a moderator. I like the idea and the reasons he made it for, I just disagree with a lot of his calls lately

So you want his hard work over at edb8 to suffer because you disagree with him? Most of the stuff he created over there was to help remediate the problems DDO was facing; it was intended as a service. That aside being thankful at the idea that his site full of good things that you, me, and so many others have advocated for might suffer doesn't make much sense to me if you really had no problem with larz.

I think Mikal's problem with Larz begins and ends with Larz's decision to make Jifpop an admin, and I think that's a fair criticism for reasons that we're all probably aware of. His site, as it is designed, is fine. The, or, rather, my issue with the site is its membership.

I keep telling the guy to invest in adwords or accept bots. He can't expect to get traffic if you have to go three pages deep when searching "debate site"

His sites pretty much off the map

If Larz wants more members, I'm sure he'll have a way to make that happen. I don't think he does. I think he likes the member base limited... but I could very well may be wrong.

I don't think he wants 7 members. The current community certainly doesn't. He says he only wants "intelligent" debaters. therefore, will entirely target finding those debaters
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5/23/2014 12:22:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:22:46 PM, Csareo wrote:
People should really participate in Edeb8. It has so many good features that makes it worthy of your time, and a dedicated admin who works 24/7 adding more features, that don't even get used. There's no members.

Its astounding, as the debates literally give you a million more options. I'm not asking people to leave here, but to maybe take a debate once a month there. Lars pretty much assures your debate will be taken.

The main reason though, is debate.org needs competition. Edeb8 is the force needed to push Juggle into submission!!! (Revolt People).
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5/23/2014 12:25:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 12:21:42 AM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/23/2014 12:17:22 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/23/2014 12:07:43 AM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/23/2014 12:03:56 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:59:13 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:44:51 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:41:22 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM, Mikal wrote:
If larz made you an admin, you have my thanks

You just ran off half their user base. Thank him for me.

I don't appreciate this comment. What's your problem with larzthelosers site? After all the crap he has gotten for other stuff, I think it is at least fair to say he did a great job with his site and that the features should be used for good rather than rotting away simply because of some bad blood over something else presumably.

no problem with larz, I question his judgment a lot though. Specifically if he made jif a moderator. I like the idea and the reasons he made it for, I just disagree with a lot of his calls lately

So you want his hard work over at edb8 to suffer because you disagree with him? Most of the stuff he created over there was to help remediate the problems DDO was facing; it was intended as a service. That aside being thankful at the idea that his site full of good things that you, me, and so many others have advocated for might suffer doesn't make much sense to me if you really had no problem with larz.

I think Mikal's problem with Larz begins and ends with Larz's decision to make Jifpop an admin, and I think that's a fair criticism for reasons that we're all probably aware of. His site, as it is designed, is fine. The, or, rather, my issue with the site is its membership.

I keep telling the guy to invest in adwords or accept bots. He can't expect to get traffic if you have to go three pages deep when searching "debate site"

His sites pretty much off the map

If Larz wants more members, I'm sure he'll have a way to make that happen. I don't think he does. I think he likes the member base limited... but I could very well may be wrong.

I don't think he wants 7 members. The current community certainly doesn't. He says he only wants "intelligent" debaters. therefore, will entirely target finding those debaters

He may not want only 7 members, but I think he probably likes the lower membership levels. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with this, because what I think doesn't matter. It's Larz's site and he can run it exactly how he pleases. I would not run the site in the same way, but then again, I would not have created my own site to begin with.

I think that the current members there are going to keep other people from joining because they don't want to be associated with what's there now. We talk about intellectual freedom and all that jazz, but when you've got people like those who are there now (some, not all) posting what they do (and you know what I'm talking about), even if people made it to the third or fourth google page result, they're not likely to sign up or be interested in being a member where people discuss the subjects that receive the most attention.
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5/23/2014 12:28:45 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:22:46 PM, Csareo wrote:
People should really participate in Edeb8. It has so many good features that makes it worthy of your time, and a dedicated admin who works 24/7 adding more features, that don't even get used. There's no members.

Its astounding, as the debates literally give you a million more options. I'm not asking people to leave here, but to maybe take a debate once a month there. Lars pretty much assures your debate will be taken.

The main reason though, is debate.org needs competition. Edeb8 is the force needed to push Juggle into submission!!! (Revolt People).

thanks, i'll look into it buddy
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5/23/2014 12:31:03 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 12:28:45 AM, Adam_Godzilla wrote:
At 5/22/2014 11:22:46 PM, Csareo wrote:
People should really participate in Edeb8. It has so many good features that makes it worthy of your time, and a dedicated admin who works 24/7 adding more features, that don't even get used. There's no members.

Its astounding, as the debates literally give you a million more options. I'm not asking people to leave here, but to maybe take a debate once a month there. Lars pretty much assures your debate will be taken.

The main reason though, is debate.org needs competition. Edeb8 is the force needed to push Juggle into submission!!! (Revolt People).


thanks, i'll look into it buddy

Its a great site. It will have a lot more features than DDO, but less members. Create a debate, and you'll see
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5/23/2014 12:37:16 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
BTW, on the off chance that anyone didn't see through my sarcasm, I'm not actually a moderator. I reviewed the thread, and saw Mikal was bashing on Lars over it.

Sorry for any confusion
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5/23/2014 12:38:23 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/22/2014 11:22:46 PM, Csareo wrote:
People should really participate in Edeb8. It has so many good features that makes it worthy of your time, and a dedicated admin who works 24/7 adding more features, that don't even get used. There's no members.

Its astounding, as the debates literally give you a million more options. I'm not asking people to leave here, but to maybe take a debate once a month there. Lars pretty much assures your debate will be taken.

The main reason though, is debate.org needs competition. Edeb8 is the force needed to push Juggle into submission!!! (Revolt People).
http://www.edeb8.com...

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