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Adam_Godzilla
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5/23/2014 11:54:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
What do you guys think about making the rule 'no rounds as agreed upon'

I'm releasing a debate about this soon but I'm doing some research.

Do you think it's a fair rule? Do you think it's a smart rule? What do you think?

And who do you know uses this rule? I've seen this rule only on Mikal's debates on the DDO homepage. Are there any other debates like this?
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5/23/2014 11:57:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I have no problem with it. Usually the instigator will have the opening argument, but according to the preferences of the instigator and especially who has the burden of proof, the instigator will have whomever accepted the debate present his argument first. However, by the way it is set up if the person who accepted presents their argument first, they would have an extra chance to argue in the last round. in order to balance that out the person just won't present an argument in the last round.
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5/23/2014 11:59:35 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I think it's kind of a lame way to get the topic wording you want by instigating, and the instigator advantage if you take ELO seriously and getting in the last word. I would prefer if people didn't do it, but I would never disallow it and I don't think it's an unfair tactic, just a somewhat cheap one.
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5/23/2014 12:02:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 11:57:49 AM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
I have no problem with it. Usually the instigator will have the opening argument, but according to the preferences of the instigator and especially who has the burden of proof, the instigator will have whomever accepted the debate present his argument first. However, by the way it is set up if the person who accepted presents their argument first, they would have an extra chance to argue in the last round. in order to balance that out the person just won't present an argument in the last round.

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5/23/2014 1:31:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 11:59:35 AM, thett3 wrote:
I think it's kind of a lame way to get the topic wording you want by instigating, and the instigator advantage if you take ELO seriously and getting in the last word. I would prefer if people didn't do it, but I would never disallow it and I don't think it's an unfair tactic, just a somewhat cheap one.
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5/23/2014 3:51:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 11:57:49 AM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Can I see your instagram post?
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5/23/2014 3:58:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 11:54:52 AM, Adam_Godzilla wrote:
What do you guys think about making the rule 'no rounds as agreed upon'

I'm releasing a debate about this soon but I'm doing some research.

Do you think it's a fair rule? Do you think it's a smart rule? What do you think?

And who do you know uses this rule? I've seen this rule only on Mikal's debates on the DDO homepage. Are there any other debates like this?

The rules incredibly slanted. Romanii and me are mutual on this. It allows Mikal to have the first rebuttal and the last word. Whereas the first person has to establish a base without one round of uninterrupted rebuttals.
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5/23/2014 4:57:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 12:02:05 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/23/2014 11:57:49 AM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
I have no problem with it. Usually the instigator will have the opening argument, but according to the preferences of the instigator and especially who has the burden of proof, the instigator will have whomever accepted the debate present his argument first. However, by the way it is set up if the person who accepted presents their argument first, they would have an extra chance to argue in the last round. in order to balance that out the person just won't present an argument in the last round.

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5/23/2014 5:04:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I don't really like it, it seems like a cheap way to take the instigator ELO advantage and the contender debating advantage.
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5/23/2014 5:11:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I think it can be justified if the contender has the burden of proof, though it's better to just let the contender be the instigator, in that case, if possible.
However, when the instigator has the burden of proof, then it just becomes a cheap tactic meant to give the instigator an easier win via allowing them to have the last word.
In general I dislike the set-up, though, just because it feels unnatural; it should be avoided whenever possible.... @Mikal.
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5/23/2014 8:55:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 4:58:10 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/23/2014 3:51:38 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 5/23/2014 11:57:49 AM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Can I see your instagram post?

Sutom.

I don't know what that means... :/
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which is what everyone else should also care about.

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MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

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NiqashMotawadi3
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5/23/2014 9:04:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 8:55:03 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 5/23/2014 4:58:10 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/23/2014 3:51:38 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 5/23/2014 11:57:49 AM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Can I see your instagram post?

Sutom.

I don't know what that means... :/

You'll figure out soon.
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5/23/2014 9:07:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 9:04:23 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/23/2014 8:55:03 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 5/23/2014 4:58:10 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/23/2014 3:51:38 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 5/23/2014 11:57:49 AM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Can I see your instagram post?

Sutom.

I don't know what that means... :/

You'll figure out soon.

that didn't sound freaky at all

http://media.tumblr.com...
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
NiqashMotawadi3
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5/24/2014 2:05:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 9:07:28 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 5/23/2014 9:04:23 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/23/2014 8:55:03 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 5/23/2014 4:58:10 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/23/2014 3:51:38 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 5/23/2014 11:57:49 AM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Can I see your instagram post?

Sutom.

I don't know what that means... :/

You'll figure out soon.

that didn't sound freaky at all

http://media.tumblr.com...

Something about that meme is not right. He's acting it out so plainly, properly.
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5/24/2014 7:44:19 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 2:05:56 AM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/23/2014 9:07:28 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 5/23/2014 9:04:23 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/23/2014 8:55:03 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 5/23/2014 4:58:10 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/23/2014 3:51:38 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 5/23/2014 11:57:49 AM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Can I see your instagram post?

Sutom.

I don't know what that means... :/

You'll figure out soon.

that didn't sound freaky at all

http://media.tumblr.com...

Something about that meme is not right. He's acting it out so plainly, properly.

I wanted to respond quickly and couldn't find a better one.

*shrugs*
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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5/24/2014 1:14:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 9:04:23 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/23/2014 8:55:03 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 5/23/2014 4:58:10 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/23/2014 3:51:38 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 5/23/2014 11:57:49 AM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Can I see your instagram post?

Sutom.

I don't know what that means... :/

You'll figure out soon.

Lol. ^.^ I wasn't sucking up though. I'm genuinely curious. :D
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.