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5/23/2014 10:42:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
http://www.debate.org...

Within an hour of joining, he instigated a promising debate on minimum wage, which promptly got resolution-sniped by a certain member... some other prominent users then started complimenting the resolution-sniper on his smart move, causing the new user to get a bad impression of the site as a whole and leave.... am I the only one who feels bad about this?
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5/23/2014 10:55:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 10:42:57 PM, Romanii wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Within an hour of joining, he instigated a promising debate on minimum wage, which promptly got resolution-sniped by a certain member... some other prominent users then started complimenting the resolution-sniper on his smart move, causing the new user to get a bad impression of the site as a whole and leave.... am I the only one who feels bad about this?

Lol, that was Mikal. I will gladly debate that
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5/23/2014 11:04:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 11:00:25 PM, Mikal wrote:
and I was actually going to not run an argument in this debate with jif. Now I have no quams about it

Wait, so it was you :).

Well, I was actually sure it was you
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5/24/2014 12:17:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 10:42:57 PM, Romanii wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Within an hour of joining, he instigated a promising debate on minimum wage, which promptly got resolution-sniped by a certain member... some other prominent users then started complimenting the resolution-sniper on his smart move, causing the new user to get a bad impression of the site as a whole and leave.... am I the only one who feels bad about this?

It seems as though you were being too harsh on him, Jif, and assuming that it was Mikal just makes it all the worse. Even if you felt sure, the chance that such accusations would push a new member away isn't worth the public shaming of an already prominent member. I get that you and he have your own personal tiff that you're working through, but try not to include new members in it, and try to be a little more courteous and reasonable when someone posts a topic that's slightly off kilter. Hell, to this day I've never accepted a topic I felt wasn't absolutely crystal clear, and especially with someone new to the site, you could stand to give them a little leeway.
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5/24/2014 12:20:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 12:17:01 AM, whiteflame wrote:
At 5/23/2014 10:42:57 PM, Romanii wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Within an hour of joining, he instigated a promising debate on minimum wage, which promptly got resolution-sniped by a certain member... some other prominent users then started complimenting the resolution-sniper on his smart move, causing the new user to get a bad impression of the site as a whole and leave.... am I the only one who feels bad about this?

It seems as though you were being too harsh on him, Jif, and assuming that it was Mikal just makes it all the worse. Even if you felt sure, the chance that such accusations would push a new member away isn't worth the public shaming of an already prominent member. I get that you and he have your own personal tiff that you're working through, but try not to include new members in it, and try to be a little more courteous and reasonable when someone posts a topic that's slightly off kilter. Hell, to this day I've never accepted a topic I felt wasn't absolutely crystal clear, and especially with someone new to the site, you could stand to give them a little leeway.

I do have my suspicions, but now is not the time or place to bring them up. I would explain over PM, but Airmax deleted three forums of evidence

Your right though. I asserted a ton of accusations and pressure on him.
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5/24/2014 12:25:30 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 12:20:56 AM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:17:01 AM, whiteflame wrote:
At 5/23/2014 10:42:57 PM, Romanii wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Within an hour of joining, he instigated a promising debate on minimum wage, which promptly got resolution-sniped by a certain member... some other prominent users then started complimenting the resolution-sniper on his smart move, causing the new user to get a bad impression of the site as a whole and leave.... am I the only one who feels bad about this?

It seems as though you were being too harsh on him, Jif, and assuming that it was Mikal just makes it all the worse. Even if you felt sure, the chance that such accusations would push a new member away isn't worth the public shaming of an already prominent member. I get that you and he have your own personal tiff that you're working through, but try not to include new members in it, and try to be a little more courteous and reasonable when someone posts a topic that's slightly off kilter. Hell, to this day I've never accepted a topic I felt wasn't absolutely crystal clear, and especially with someone new to the site, you could stand to give them a little leeway.

I do have my suspicions, but now is not the time or place to bring them up. I would explain over PM, but Airmax deleted three forums of evidence


What do you mean I deleted three forums of evidence?

All I removed was the one thread where you accused Mikal of multi-accounting, which again is entirely inappropriate.

Your right though. I asserted a ton of accusations and pressure on him.
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5/24/2014 12:27:43 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Welp, jifpop's apology lasted one day. So much for a second chance.

VTL jifpop for summary execution
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5/24/2014 12:28:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 12:25:30 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:20:56 AM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:17:01 AM, whiteflame wrote:
At 5/23/2014 10:42:57 PM, Romanii wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Within an hour of joining, he instigated a promising debate on minimum wage, which promptly got resolution-sniped by a certain member... some other prominent users then started complimenting the resolution-sniper on his smart move, causing the new user to get a bad impression of the site as a whole and leave.... am I the only one who feels bad about this?

It seems as though you were being too harsh on him, Jif, and assuming that it was Mikal just makes it all the worse. Even if you felt sure, the chance that such accusations would push a new member away isn't worth the public shaming of an already prominent member. I get that you and he have your own personal tiff that you're working through, but try not to include new members in it, and try to be a little more courteous and reasonable when someone posts a topic that's slightly off kilter. Hell, to this day I've never accepted a topic I felt wasn't absolutely crystal clear, and especially with someone new to the site, you could stand to give them a little leeway.

I do have my suspicions, but now is not the time or place to bring them up. I would explain over PM, but Airmax deleted three forums of evidence


What do you mean I deleted three forums of evidence?

All I removed was the one thread where you accused Mikal of multi-accounting, which again is entirely inappropriate.

Your right though. I asserted a ton of accusations and pressure on him.

Can you also state that its false so we can move on
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5/24/2014 12:28:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 12:25:30 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:20:56 AM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:17:01 AM, whiteflame wrote:
At 5/23/2014 10:42:57 PM, Romanii wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Within an hour of joining, he instigated a promising debate on minimum wage, which promptly got resolution-sniped by a certain member... some other prominent users then started complimenting the resolution-sniper on his smart move, causing the new user to get a bad impression of the site as a whole and leave.... am I the only one who feels bad about this?

It seems as though you were being too harsh on him, Jif, and assuming that it was Mikal just makes it all the worse. Even if you felt sure, the chance that such accusations would push a new member away isn't worth the public shaming of an already prominent member. I get that you and he have your own personal tiff that you're working through, but try not to include new members in it, and try to be a little more courteous and reasonable when someone posts a topic that's slightly off kilter. Hell, to this day I've never accepted a topic I felt wasn't absolutely crystal clear, and especially with someone new to the site, you could stand to give them a little leeway.

I do have my suspicions, but now is not the time or place to bring them up. I would explain over PM, but Airmax deleted three forums of evidence


What do you mean I deleted three forums of evidence?

I assumed you deleted the other two forums, sorry

All I removed was the one thread where you accused Mikal of multi-accounting, which again is entirely inappropriate.

It was not an accusation, per say. When I wrote it, I was 100% sure he had both admitted it and agreed that he was debating as Tom with me

Your right though. I asserted a ton of accusations and pressure on him.

Honestly Airmax, I hope this reply doesn't lead to another drama pool
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5/24/2014 12:28:36 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
And we did lose a good member today -- the promise of a reformed jifpop that we were promised yesterday; we lost him to the troll-y jifpop we all know and don't love.
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5/24/2014 12:29:58 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 12:27:43 AM, bluesteel wrote:
Welp, jifpop's apology lasted one day. So much for a second chance.

VTL jifpop for summary execution
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5/24/2014 12:32:32 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 12:28:36 AM, bluesteel wrote:
And we did lose a good member today -- the promise of a reformed jifpop that we were promised yesterday; we lost him to the troll-y jifpop we all know and don't love.

My friend, are you aware of the context of the situation? I believe not, as the context was deleted by our humble airmax.

I request you don't question my integrity without knowing the situation. If you want to flesh it out over PM, I'll be happy to do so
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5/24/2014 12:34:08 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 12:28:09 AM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:25:30 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:20:56 AM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:17:01 AM, whiteflame wrote:
At 5/23/2014 10:42:57 PM, Romanii wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Within an hour of joining, he instigated a promising debate on minimum wage, which promptly got resolution-sniped by a certain member... some other prominent users then started complimenting the resolution-sniper on his smart move, causing the new user to get a bad impression of the site as a whole and leave.... am I the only one who feels bad about this?

It seems as though you were being too harsh on him, Jif, and assuming that it was Mikal just makes it all the worse. Even if you felt sure, the chance that such accusations would push a new member away isn't worth the public shaming of an already prominent member. I get that you and he have your own personal tiff that you're working through, but try not to include new members in it, and try to be a little more courteous and reasonable when someone posts a topic that's slightly off kilter. Hell, to this day I've never accepted a topic I felt wasn't absolutely crystal clear, and especially with someone new to the site, you could stand to give them a little leeway.

I do have my suspicions, but now is not the time or place to bring them up. I would explain over PM, but Airmax deleted three forums of evidence


What do you mean I deleted three forums of evidence?

All I removed was the one thread where you accused Mikal of multi-accounting, which again is entirely inappropriate.

Your right though. I asserted a ton of accusations and pressure on him.

Can you also state that its false so we can move on

Honestly, I can't say its false. Its not in my hands.

You saw Airmax. I gave him the circumstantial evidence, and he said he would conduct a serious investigation. I was not alone in my suspicions.

There were 10 others or so I talked to here and over PM
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5/24/2014 12:34:11 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I really don't have a strong opinion of the situation, but I would think that Jifpop is only relevant to the extent that people pay attention to him. While I can see why he is annoying, he doesn't really bother me and continuing to post in these threads about him isn't going to improve the situation.

Just a thought...
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5/24/2014 12:37:27 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 12:32:32 AM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:28:36 AM, bluesteel wrote:
And we did lose a good member today -- the promise of a reformed jifpop that we were promised yesterday; we lost him to the troll-y jifpop we all know and don't love.

My friend, are you aware of the context of the situation? I believe not, as the context was deleted by our humble airmax.

I request you don't question my integrity without knowing the situation. If you want to flesh it out over PM, I'll be happy to do so

I know the context. You accused mikal of multi-accounting which is absurd. Your promise of reformation lasted a whole 24 hours.
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5/24/2014 12:38:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 12:37:27 AM, bluesteel wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:32:32 AM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:28:36 AM, bluesteel wrote:
And we did lose a good member today -- the promise of a reformed jifpop that we were promised yesterday; we lost him to the troll-y jifpop we all know and don't love.

My friend, are you aware of the context of the situation? I believe not, as the context was deleted by our humble airmax.

I request you don't question my integrity without knowing the situation. If you want to flesh it out over PM, I'll be happy to do so

I know the context. You accused mikal of multi-accounting which is absurd. Your promise of reformation lasted a whole 24 hours.

Did you see the evidence? Even Tuf admitted he wasn't sure if it was Mikal. I'll show you all of it over PM, not here.

Actually, not a single person has denied it looked really bad for Mikal. Evidence will come in a private setting though
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5/24/2014 12:39:36 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 12:34:11 AM, YYW wrote:
I really don't have a strong opinion of the situation, but I would think that Jifpop is only relevant to the extent that people pay attention to him. While I can see why he is annoying, he doesn't really bother me and continuing to post in these threads about him isn't going to improve the situation.

Just a thought...

True. But airmax should also stop giving dumbf**ks 7 chances.... If someone deserves to get banned, they should get banned. They shouldn't come back as 20 different usernames and keep doing the same dumb sh!t they always did, and we just have to put up with it until they *definitively* deserve to get banned.
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5/24/2014 12:44:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 12:25:30 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:20:56 AM, Csareo wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:17:01 AM, whiteflame wrote:
At 5/23/2014 10:42:57 PM, Romanii wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Within an hour of joining, he instigated a promising debate on minimum wage, which promptly got resolution-sniped by a certain member... some other prominent users then started complimenting the resolution-sniper on his smart move, causing the new user to get a bad impression of the site as a whole and leave.... am I the only one who feels bad about this?

It seems as though you were being too harsh on him, Jif, and assuming that it was Mikal just makes it all the worse. Even if you felt sure, the chance that such accusations would push a new member away isn't worth the public shaming of an already prominent member. I get that you and he have your own personal tiff that you're working through, but try not to include new members in it, and try to be a little more courteous and reasonable when someone posts a topic that's slightly off kilter. Hell, to this day I've never accepted a topic I felt wasn't absolutely crystal clear, and especially with someone new to the site, you could stand to give them a little leeway.

I do have my suspicions, but now is not the time or place to bring them up. I would explain over PM, but Airmax deleted three forums of evidence


What do you mean I deleted three forums of evidence?

All I removed was the one thread where you accused Mikal of multi-accounting, which again is entirely inappropriate.

Your right though. I asserted a ton of accusations and pressure on him.

that was directed at airmax.

*can you confirm this accusation is false before I rage at him more
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5/24/2014 12:44:37 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 12:39:36 AM, bluesteel wrote:
At 5/24/2014 12:34:11 AM, YYW wrote:
I really don't have a strong opinion of the situation, but I would think that Jifpop is only relevant to the extent that people pay attention to him. While I can see why he is annoying, he doesn't really bother me and continuing to post in these threads about him isn't going to improve the situation.

Just a thought...

True. But airmax should also stop giving dumbf**ks 7 chances.... If someone deserves to get banned, they should get banned. They shouldn't come back as 20 different usernames and keep doing the same dumb sh!t they always did, and we just have to put up with it until they *definitively* deserve to get banned.

The only reason I believe he should be banned is because he makes posts about he him doing exactly what he does is harming DDO.
He should fall on his sword.
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5/24/2014 8:46:50 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I have no opinion in this matter.

It could be Mikal with an anonymous web proxy. Mind you, I'm *not* saying that's the case, just that it's possible.

Or it could be Jifpop trying to make it look as if Mikal is multi-accounting, by making a debate with Mikal's admittedly unfair debate structure. Possible.

Or it could be some random new member who saw Mikal's debate structure and copied it. Possible.

Or it could be Juggle itself trying to bait Jifpop in order to ban him again. Possible.

Or it could be izbo, returned after many voyages in the sahara desert, and with much sand in his eyes and a** who decided to return to DDO and cause mayhem...and then get upset and leave.

Or it could be a glitch in the matrix.

Or maybe we're suffering a mass hallucination just like the people when Jesus multiplied the loaves and fishes.

Or maybe it's imabench trying to save DDO and getting trolled.

Really, the list is endless. We as normal users shouldn't feel too strongly about any possibility, since we really don't have the appropriate evidence to think anything is necessarily true.

So we should all remain agnostics.
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5/24/2014 9:06:20 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I know what it is. Here is my tale. It's all falsehoods. Yes, I made this all up.

Csareo is not Jifpop. It's Mikal.

Mikal made an account called Csareo. He pretended to be Jifpop and convinced everyone. He wanted to act like Jifpop and get him perma banned so that if Jifpop ever did come back he would be ran off the site.

Then he went and trolled and tried to get himself banned. It didn't work. So he set up a new account. Tomwhatshisname.

Mikal then proceeded to have Csareo act horribly and have the new intelligent member apparently flee the site. The whole debate structure thing was set up so that it would *appear* that Csareo had a semi-legitimate reason to think it was Mikal.

Now Mikal is hoping that due to Csareo's running new members off the site, the other users of the site will think that Csareo is ruining the integrity of the site.

But! You might ask, how did Airmax then confirm it wasn't Mikal? The answer is simple. Airmax and Mikal are one and the same. That's right, they're the same person.

So now you know the truth. Shocking, huh? All the circumstantial evidence proves this as true.

But, you might be wondering: Who exactly is Mikal?

Mikal is not a man. It's a woman. It's actually Danielle. Daniella decided that if she could set up a huge story, then nobody would really believe it was her, and she could shock everyone later on. She's just waiting her time now, waiting to show everyone. All she has to do to complete her plan is get Jifpop banned. Then she will show us how she can run DDO because she is Mikal, Airmax, and got herself banned.

But it turns out that Daniella was hired by TUF the site president to do all this. TUF wanted to show his power by hiring a member who could do whatever he wanted.

Unfortunately, Danielle's power grew, and TUF could no longer control her. Before TUF knew what he was doing, he was Danielle's servant.

TUF also had a split personality disorder, which is Ore_ele. So Ore_ele is the nicer side of the already nice TUF. As tuff as TUf's name sounds, he's actually very nice.

Roy Latham is a hit man used by Danielle to take out prominent debaters.

BUT WAIT!! DID YOU KNOW DANIELLE IS BEING MIND CONTROLLED BY IZBO??

Izbo.. the religion hater... has managed to mind control a strong-minded person such as Danielle. Daniells is comepletely under his control.

And Izbo turns out to have been a joke by Juggle, as we all know, a test to see how everyone would act.

The evidence is all coming together. I can see it now. It all makes sense.

I have exposed the DDO elite.

LOL
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5/24/2014 9:07:36 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/23/2014 10:42:57 PM, Romanii wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Within an hour of joining, he instigated a promising debate on minimum wage, which promptly got resolution-sniped by a certain member... some other prominent users then started complimenting the resolution-sniper on his smart move, causing the new user to get a bad impression of the site as a whole and leave.... am I the only one who feels bad about this?

That's not appropriate in my opinion.

We the voters shouldn't tolerate semantics, cheating, and set up debate structures in my opinion.
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5/24/2014 9:14:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 9:06:20 AM, tbhidc wrote:
I know what it is. Here is my tale. It's all falsehoods. Yes, I made this all up.

Csareo is not Jifpop. It's Mikal.

Mikal made an account called Csareo. He pretended to be Jifpop and convinced everyone. He wanted to act like Jifpop and get him perma banned so that if Jifpop ever did come back he would be ran off the site.

Then he went and trolled and tried to get himself banned. It didn't work. So he set up a new account. Tomwhatshisname.

Mikal then proceeded to have Csareo act horribly and have the new intelligent member apparently flee the site. The whole debate structure thing was set up so that it would *appear* that Csareo had a semi-legitimate reason to think it was Mikal.

Now Mikal is hoping that due to Csareo's running new members off the site, the other users of the site will think that Csareo is ruining the integrity of the site.

But! You might ask, how did Airmax then confirm it wasn't Mikal? The answer is simple. Airmax and Mikal are one and the same. That's right, they're the same person.

So now you know the truth. Shocking, huh? All the circumstantial evidence proves this as true.

But, you might be wondering: Who exactly is Mikal?

Mikal is not a man. It's a woman. It's actually Danielle. Daniella decided that if she could set up a huge story, then nobody would really believe it was her, and she could shock everyone later on. She's just waiting her time now, waiting to show everyone. All she has to do to complete her plan is get Jifpop banned. Then she will show us how she can run DDO because she is Mikal, Airmax, and got herself banned.

But it turns out that Daniella was hired by TUF the site president to do all this. TUF wanted to show his power by hiring a member who could do whatever he wanted.

Unfortunately, Danielle's power grew, and TUF could no longer control her. Before TUF knew what he was doing, he was Danielle's servant.

TUF also had a split personality disorder, which is Ore_ele. So Ore_ele is the nicer side of the already nice TUF. As tuff as TUf's name sounds, he's actually very nice.

Roy Latham is a hit man used by Danielle to take out prominent debaters.

BUT WAIT!! DID YOU KNOW DANIELLE IS BEING MIND CONTROLLED BY IZBO??

Izbo.. the religion hater... has managed to mind control a strong-minded person such as Danielle. Daniells is comepletely under his control.

And Izbo turns out to have been a joke by Juggle, as we all know, a test to see how everyone would act.

The evidence is all coming together. I can see it now. It all makes sense.

I have exposed the DDO elite.

LOL

Geez that was elaborate.

So let me see if I understand your theory correctly:

Csareo = Mikal = airmax = TomStanton = Danielle is approximately equal to Izo
Tuf = Ore_Ele
Roy = Roy

Did I miss anything?
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5/24/2014 9:21:50 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 9:06:20 AM, tbhidc wrote:
I know what it is. Here is my tale. It's all falsehoods. Yes, I made this all up.

Csareo is not Jifpop. It's Mikal.

Mikal made an account called Csareo. He pretended to be Jifpop and convinced everyone. He wanted to act like Jifpop and get him perma banned so that if Jifpop ever did come back he would be ran off the site.

Then he went and trolled and tried to get himself banned. It didn't work. So he set up a new account. Tomwhatshisname.

Mikal then proceeded to have Csareo act horribly and have the new intelligent member apparently flee the site. The whole debate structure thing was set up so that it would *appear* that Csareo had a semi-legitimate reason to think it was Mikal.

Now Mikal is hoping that due to Csareo's running new members off the site, the other users of the site will think that Csareo is ruining the integrity of the site.

But! You might ask, how did Airmax then confirm it wasn't Mikal? The answer is simple. Airmax and Mikal are one and the same. That's right, they're the same person.

So now you know the truth. Shocking, huh? All the circumstantial evidence proves this as true.

But, you might be wondering: Who exactly is Mikal?

Mikal is not a man. It's a woman. It's actually Danielle. Daniella decided that if she could set up a huge story, then nobody would really believe it was her, and she could shock everyone later on. She's just waiting her time now, waiting to show everyone. All she has to do to complete her plan is get Jifpop banned. Then she will show us how she can run DDO because she is Mikal, Airmax, and got herself banned.

But it turns out that Daniella was hired by TUF the site president to do all this. TUF wanted to show his power by hiring a member who could do whatever he wanted.

Unfortunately, Danielle's power grew, and TUF could no longer control her. Before TUF knew what he was doing, he was Danielle's servant.

TUF also had a split personality disorder, which is Ore_ele. So Ore_ele is the nicer side of the already nice TUF. As tuff as TUf's name sounds, he's actually very nice.

Roy Latham is a hit man used by Danielle to take out prominent debaters.

BUT WAIT!! DID YOU KNOW DANIELLE IS BEING MIND CONTROLLED BY IZBO??

Izbo.. the religion hater... has managed to mind control a strong-minded person such as Danielle. Daniells is comepletely under his control.

And Izbo turns out to have been a joke by Juggle, as we all know, a test to see how everyone would act.

The evidence is all coming together. I can see it now. It all makes sense.

I have exposed the DDO elite.

LOL

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5/24/2014 9:24:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 9:06:20 AM, tbhidc wrote:
I know what it is. Here is my tale. It's all falsehoods. Yes, I made this all up.

Csareo is not Jifpop. It's Mikal.

Mikal made an account called Csareo. He pretended to be Jifpop and convinced everyone. He wanted to act like Jifpop and get him perma banned so that if Jifpop ever did come back he would be ran off the site.

Then he went and trolled and tried to get himself banned. It didn't work. So he set up a new account. Tomwhatshisname.

Mikal then proceeded to have Csareo act horribly and have the new intelligent member apparently flee the site. The whole debate structure thing was set up so that it would *appear* that Csareo had a semi-legitimate reason to think it was Mikal.

Now Mikal is hoping that due to Csareo's running new members off the site, the other users of the site will think that Csareo is ruining the integrity of the site.

But! You might ask, how did Airmax then confirm it wasn't Mikal? The answer is simple. Airmax and Mikal are one and the same. That's right, they're the same person.

So now you know the truth. Shocking, huh? All the circumstantial evidence proves this as true.

But, you might be wondering: Who exactly is Mikal?

Mikal is not a man. It's a woman. It's actually Danielle. Daniella decided that if she could set up a huge story, then nobody would really believe it was her, and she could shock everyone later on. She's just waiting her time now, waiting to show everyone. All she has to do to complete her plan is get Jifpop banned. Then she will show us how she can run DDO because she is Mikal, Airmax, and got herself banned.

But it turns out that Daniella was hired by TUF the site president to do all this. TUF wanted to show his power by hiring a member who could do whatever he wanted.

Unfortunately, Danielle's power grew, and TUF could no longer control her. Before TUF knew what he was doing, he was Danielle's servant.

TUF also had a split personality disorder, which is Ore_ele. So Ore_ele is the nicer side of the already nice TUF. As tuff as TUf's name sounds, he's actually very nice.

Roy Latham is a hit man used by Danielle to take out prominent debaters.

BUT WAIT!! DID YOU KNOW DANIELLE IS BEING MIND CONTROLLED BY IZBO??

Izbo.. the religion hater... has managed to mind control a strong-minded person such as Danielle. Daniells is comepletely under his control.

And Izbo turns out to have been a joke by Juggle, as we all know, a test to see how everyone would act.

The evidence is all coming together. I can see it now. It all makes sense.

I have exposed the DDO elite.

LOL

Where do bladerunner060 and wrichcirw play into all of this?
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5/24/2014 12:50:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 9:14:59 AM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 5/24/2014 9:06:20 AM, tbhidc wrote:
I know what it is. Here is my tale. It's all falsehoods. Yes, I made this all up.

Csareo is not Jifpop. It's Mikal.

Mikal made an account called Csareo. He pretended to be Jifpop and convinced everyone. He wanted to act like Jifpop and get him perma banned so that if Jifpop ever did come back he would be ran off the site.

Then he went and trolled and tried to get himself banned. It didn't work. So he set up a new account. Tomwhatshisname.

Mikal then proceeded to have Csareo act horribly and have the new intelligent member apparently flee the site. The whole debate structure thing was set up so that it would *appear* that Csareo had a semi-legitimate reason to think it was Mikal.

Now Mikal is hoping that due to Csareo's running new members off the site, the other users of the site will think that Csareo is ruining the integrity of the site.

But! You might ask, how did Airmax then confirm it wasn't Mikal? The answer is simple. Airmax and Mikal are one and the same. That's right, they're the same person.

So now you know the truth. Shocking, huh? All the circumstantial evidence proves this as true.

But, you might be wondering: Who exactly is Mikal?

Mikal is not a man. It's a woman. It's actually Danielle. Daniella decided that if she could set up a huge story, then nobody would really believe it was her, and she could shock everyone later on. She's just waiting her time now, waiting to show everyone. All she has to do to complete her plan is get Jifpop banned. Then she will show us how she can run DDO because she is Mikal, Airmax, and got herself banned.

But it turns out that Daniella was hired by TUF the site president to do all this. TUF wanted to show his power by hiring a member who could do whatever he wanted.

Unfortunately, Danielle's power grew, and TUF could no longer control her. Before TUF knew what he was doing, he was Danielle's servant.

TUF also had a split personality disorder, which is Ore_ele. So Ore_ele is the nicer side of the already nice TUF. As tuff as TUf's name sounds, he's actually very nice.

Roy Latham is a hit man used by Danielle to take out prominent debaters.

BUT WAIT!! DID YOU KNOW DANIELLE IS BEING MIND CONTROLLED BY IZBO??

Izbo.. the religion hater... has managed to mind control a strong-minded person such as Danielle. Daniells is comepletely under his control.

And Izbo turns out to have been a joke by Juggle, as we all know, a test to see how everyone would act.

The evidence is all coming together. I can see it now. It all makes sense.

I have exposed the DDO elite.

LOL

Geez that was elaborate.

So let me see if I understand your theory correctly:

Csareo = Mikal = airmax = TomStanton = Danielle is approximately equal to Izo
Tuf = Ore_Ele
Roy = Roy

Did I miss anything?

That's about it. Except they hire people to pretend to be them during video calls on google plus or whatever.

Also, the reason I know this is because RoyLatham psychologically programmed me as a fellow hit man.... I was a logic hitman. To hit people with logic. *shudders* but luckily I've realized I was programmed and have used the skills Roy equipped me with to go against the DDO elite. I'm talkin gabout the debate on the home page now.
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5/24/2014 12:52:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/24/2014 9:24:24 AM, Romanii wrote:
At 5/24/2014 9:06:20 AM, tbhidc wrote:
I know what it is. Here is my tale. It's all falsehoods. Yes, I made this all up.

Csareo is not Jifpop. It's Mikal.

Mikal made an account called Csareo. He pretended to be Jifpop and convinced everyone. He wanted to act like Jifpop and get him perma banned so that if Jifpop ever did come back he would be ran off the site.

Then he went and trolled and tried to get himself banned. It didn't work. So he set up a new account. Tomwhatshisname.

Mikal then proceeded to have Csareo act horribly and have the new intelligent member apparently flee the site. The whole debate structure thing was set up so that it would *appear* that Csareo had a semi-legitimate reason to think it was Mikal.

Now Mikal is hoping that due to Csareo's running new members off the site, the other users of the site will think that Csareo is ruining the integrity of the site.

But! You might ask, how did Airmax then confirm it wasn't Mikal? The answer is simple. Airmax and Mikal are one and the same. That's right, they're the same person.

So now you know the truth. Shocking, huh? All the circumstantial evidence proves this as true.

But, you might be wondering: Who exactly is Mikal?

Mikal is not a man. It's a woman. It's actually Danielle. Daniella decided that if she could set up a huge story, then nobody would really believe it was her, and she could shock everyone later on. She's just waiting her time now, waiting to show everyone. All she has to do to complete her plan is get Jifpop banned. Then she will show us how she can run DDO because she is Mikal, Airmax, and got herself banned.

But it turns out that Daniella was hired by TUF the site president to do all this. TUF wanted to show his power by hiring a member who could do whatever he wanted.

Unfortunately, Danielle's power grew, and TUF could no longer control her. Before TUF knew what he was doing, he was Danielle's servant.

TUF also had a split personality disorder, which is Ore_ele. So Ore_ele is the nicer side of the already nice TUF. As tuff as TUf's name sounds, he's actually very nice.

Roy Latham is a hit man used by Danielle to take out prominent debaters.

BUT WAIT!! DID YOU KNOW DANIELLE IS BEING MIND CONTROLLED BY IZBO??

Izbo.. the religion hater... has managed to mind control a strong-minded person such as Danielle. Daniells is comepletely under his control.

And Izbo turns out to have been a joke by Juggle, as we all know, a test to see how everyone would act.

The evidence is all coming together. I can see it now. It all makes sense.

I have exposed the DDO elite.

LOL

Where do bladerunner060 and wrichcirw play into all of this?

wrichirw is izbo's twin. That's why they share odd similarities in personality.

Bladerunner is a fake dummy that they have set up in order to run for president to keep their DDO elite agenda going.

All the other people running for president have had their loved ones abducted and threatened. They're being forced to run for president to make things appear normal to all the other members.