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ChosenWolff
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6/9/2014 5:52:07 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Hiya folks! I have a debate here, and my opponent trolled me. I have started a new debate, and I hope I can rap this up with a vote, Thanks!

http://www.debate.org...

I have also started a new debate here.....

http://www.debate.org...

Cheers!
How about NO elections?

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ESocialBookworm
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6/9/2014 7:27:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 5:52:07 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Hiya folks! I have a debate here, and my opponent trolled me. I have started a new debate, and I hope I can rap this up with a vote, Thanks!

http://www.debate.org...

I have also started a new debate here.....

http://www.debate.org...

Cheers!
http://www.debate.org...
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
ChosenWolff
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6/9/2014 5:50:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 7:27:01 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:52:07 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Hiya folks! I have a debate here, and my opponent trolled me. I have started a new debate, and I hope I can rap this up with a vote, Thanks!

http://www.debate.org...

I have also started a new debate here.....

http://www.debate.org...

Cheers!
http://www.debate.org...

Forgive me, but its not like this forum is exactly flooding with relevant topics. If you can't defeat them, you might as well join em'
How about NO elections?

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ESocialBookworm
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6/9/2014 6:19:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 5:50:01 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:27:01 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:52:07 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Hiya folks! I have a debate here, and my opponent trolled me. I have started a new debate, and I hope I can rap this up with a vote, Thanks!

http://www.debate.org...

I have also started a new debate here.....

http://www.debate.org...

Cheers!
http://www.debate.org...

Forgive me, but its not like this forum is exactly flooding with relevant topics. If you can't defeat them, you might as well join em'

Succumbing to peer pressure already? I'm disappointed.
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
ChosenWolff
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6/9/2014 6:21:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 6:19:52 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:50:01 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:27:01 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:52:07 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Hiya folks! I have a debate here, and my opponent trolled me. I have started a new debate, and I hope I can rap this up with a vote, Thanks!

http://www.debate.org...

I have also started a new debate here.....

http://www.debate.org...

Cheers!
http://www.debate.org...

Forgive me, but its not like this forum is exactly flooding with relevant topics. If you can't defeat them, you might as well join em'

Succumbing to peer pressure already? I'm disappointed.

I am thinking of contacting the mods. This is the 8th time you have tried to instigate conflict. I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but the 7 other times it sure as hell did not seem like it.

Can you respectfully leave me alone?
How about NO elections?

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ESocialBookworm
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6/9/2014 6:24:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 6:21:09 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:19:52 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:50:01 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:27:01 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:52:07 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Hiya folks! I have a debate here, and my opponent trolled me. I have started a new debate, and I hope I can rap this up with a vote, Thanks!

http://www.debate.org...

I have also started a new debate here.....

http://www.debate.org...

Cheers!
http://www.debate.org...

Forgive me, but its not like this forum is exactly flooding with relevant topics. If you can't defeat them, you might as well join em'

Succumbing to peer pressure already? I'm disappointed.

I am thinking of contacting the mods.
Go ahead then.

This is the 8th time you have tried to instigate conflict. I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but the 7 other times it sure as hell did not seem like it.

Instigating conflict? I merely pointed out that we have a "Post Unvoted Debates" thread to you. Was I the one that claimed publicly that the other was lying about their religion? Or that the other is not a real person of their religion?

Can you respectfully leave me alone?
I was just posting the thread to help a noob out. I was actually just joking in my last post but whatever.
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
Geogeer
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6/9/2014 6:26:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 6:21:09 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:19:52 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:50:01 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:27:01 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:52:07 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Hiya folks! I have a debate here, and my opponent trolled me. I have started a new debate, and I hope I can rap this up with a vote, Thanks!

http://www.debate.org...

I have also started a new debate here.....

http://www.debate.org...

Cheers!
http://www.debate.org...

Forgive me, but its not like this forum is exactly flooding with relevant topics. If you can't defeat them, you might as well join em'

Succumbing to peer pressure already? I'm disappointed.

I am thinking of contacting the mods. This is the 8th time you have tried to instigate conflict. I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but the 7 other times it sure as hell did not seem like it.

Can you respectfully leave me alone?

Ummm... you did start it with the snarky comments.
ChosenWolff
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6/9/2014 6:28:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 6:26:05 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:21:09 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:19:52 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:50:01 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:27:01 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:52:07 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Hiya folks! I have a debate here, and my opponent trolled me. I have started a new debate, and I hope I can rap this up with a vote, Thanks!

http://www.debate.org...

I have also started a new debate here.....

http://www.debate.org...

Cheers!
http://www.debate.org...

Forgive me, but its not like this forum is exactly flooding with relevant topics. If you can't defeat them, you might as well join em'

Succumbing to peer pressure already? I'm disappointed.

I am thinking of contacting the mods. This is the 8th time you have tried to instigate conflict. I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but the 7 other times it sure as hell did not seem like it.

Can you respectfully leave me alone?

Ummm... you did start it with the snarky comments.

Look, I don't get sarcasm, and I'm not one to joke around or show attitude. I couldn't do it if I tried. All I know, is that there are several forums where she instigated flame wars with me.

How many times must I ask her to leave me alone? She can't seem to respect that. Good day!
How about NO elections?

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progressivedem22
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6/9/2014 6:32:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 6:21:09 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:19:52 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:50:01 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:27:01 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:52:07 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Hiya folks! I have a debate here, and my opponent trolled me. I have started a new debate, and I hope I can rap this up with a vote, Thanks!

http://www.debate.org...

I have also started a new debate here.....

http://www.debate.org...

Cheers!
http://www.debate.org...

Forgive me, but its not like this forum is exactly flooding with relevant topics. If you can't defeat them, you might as well join em'

Succumbing to peer pressure already? I'm disappointed.

I am thinking of contacting the mods. This is the 8th time you have tried to instigate conflict. I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but the 7 other times it sure as hell did not seem like it.

Can you respectfully leave me alone?

Oh, I can't resist.

First, as Geogeer pointed out, you started it in this thread.

Second, you responded to her on the "How Homophobic are You" thread, stating that because she scored low -- meaning she wasn't homophobic -- that she must have lied. So you attacked both her integrity and her character by claiming that she's (1) homophobic and (2) a liar. I can confirm that is she is neither.

Third, you instigated a conflict with her by insinuating that someone cannot be both Islamic and pro-gay marriage. Not only are you painfully wrong on matters of theology -- and your insinuation that religion could ever "justify" sexuality is highly offensive and idiotic -- but you questioned her religiosity for no reason whatsoever. It wasn't even relevant to the thread.

Fourth, you've attacked her on multiple occasions, suggesting that she needs to "prove her Islamic faith" to you. She doesn't need to prove anything to you or to anybody.

I don't claim to know you, though I was suspicious, per YYW's post, that you and jifpop my have been the same person. From further observation, I don't think you are, as I think even jifpop wouldn't say such ridiculous things or engage in such flagrant projection.
ESocialBookworm
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6/9/2014 6:34:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Look, I don't get sarcasm, and I'm not one to joke around or show attitude. I couldn't do it if I tried.
http://pinkie.ponychan.net...

All I know, is that there are several forums where she instigated flame wars with me.
I'm sorry. I think I've always been wrong about the definition of "insitigated."
As far as I know, this is it: http://www.merriam-webster.com...
I don't recall jumping down someone's throat about not being a real Muslim...

How many times must I ask her to leave me alone? She can't seem to respect that. Good day!
I was trying to help you out since no one posted.
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
Geogeer
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6/9/2014 6:35:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 6:28:11 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:26:05 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:21:09 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:19:52 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:50:01 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:27:01 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:52:07 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Hiya folks! I have a debate here, and my opponent trolled me. I have started a new debate, and I hope I can rap this up with a vote, Thanks!

http://www.debate.org...

I have also started a new debate here.....

http://www.debate.org...

Cheers!
http://www.debate.org...

Forgive me, but its not like this forum is exactly flooding with relevant topics. If you can't defeat them, you might as well join em'

Succumbing to peer pressure already? I'm disappointed.

I am thinking of contacting the mods. This is the 8th time you have tried to instigate conflict. I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but the 7 other times it sure as hell did not seem like it.

Can you respectfully leave me alone?

Ummm... you did start it with the snarky comments.

Look, I don't get sarcasm, and I'm not one to joke around or show attitude. I couldn't do it if I tried. All I know, is that there are several forums where she instigated flame wars with me.

How many times must I ask her to leave me alone? She can't seem to respect that. Good day!

I wasn't being sarcastic in the least. She merely pointed out where posts like this were supposed to go in a short non-aggressive manner. To which you replied:

Forgive me, but its not like this forum is exactly flooding with relevant topics. If you can't defeat them, you might as well join em'

Now instead of just apologizing and noting your ignorance due to being new here, you chose to assert that you weren't in the wrong. It is just plain rude.

While I agree that she does post a great deal, she did nothing wrong in this post. If you have an issue with other posts then say something in those.
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6/9/2014 6:39:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'd just like to say to readers who thought Wolf was Jifpop. IN YOUR FACE! I TOLD YOU HE WASN'T!!!
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
ChosenWolff
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6/9/2014 6:40:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 6:32:46 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:21:09 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:19:52 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:50:01 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:27:01 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:52:07 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Hiya folks! I have a debate here, and my opponent trolled me. I have started a new debate, and I hope I can rap this up with a vote, Thanks!

http://www.debate.org...

I have also started a new debate here.....

http://www.debate.org...

Cheers!
http://www.debate.org...

Forgive me, but its not like this forum is exactly flooding with relevant topics. If you can't defeat them, you might as well join em'

Succumbing to peer pressure already? I'm disappointed.

I am thinking of contacting the mods. This is the 8th time you have tried to instigate conflict. I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but the 7 other times it sure as hell did not seem like it.

Can you respectfully leave me alone?


Oh, I can't resist.

First, as Geogeer pointed out, you started it in this thread.

I started a thread. I did not instigate a fight with her, did I? Even if I had, in the past, insinuated conflict, does that make the following justifiable?

Succumbing to peer pressure already? I'm disappointed.

It sounds like a flame bait to me.

Second, you responded to her on the "How Homophobic are You" thread, stating that because she scored low -- meaning she wasn't homophobic -- that she must have lied. So you attacked both her integrity and her character by claiming that she's (1) homophobic and (2) a liar. I can confirm that is she is neither.

I had, in a private conversation, discovered some things which can not be shared. How can you confirm her integrity? Such blind faith in someone is foolish.

Third, you instigated a conflict with her by insinuating that someone cannot be both Islamic and pro-gay marriage. Not only are you painfully wrong on matters of theology -- and your insinuation that religion could ever "justify" sexuality is highly offensive and idiotic -- but you questioned her religiosity for no reason whatsoever. It wasn't even relevant to the thread.

The site rules restrict me from posting PM's, which I found out after having one deleted. I had insinuated a debate with her, as she said several things that were not related to Islam.

She claimed she was homosexual and Islamic. I asked her a question respectfully, on a debate site, and she gratefully took me up on the debate. She took it out of the forums, and she talked about it with me over PM.

If she allows me, I will show you the PM where she contended she was not Islamic. As someone with roots to Islam, I found it disgraceful that people would lie about their faith.

Fourth, you've attacked her on multiple occasions, suggesting that she needs to "prove her Islamic faith" to you. She doesn't need to prove anything to you or to anybody.

Once again, I respectfully asked her how you can be gay and Islamic. We had a fair debate over PM, where she ultimately contended.

Can I not debate others on a debate site, or must we draw out drama?


I don't claim to know you, though I was suspicious, per YYW's post, that you and jifpop my have been the same person. From further observation, I don't think you are, as I think even jifpop wouldn't say such ridiculous things or engage in such flagrant projection.

I am sick of people accusing me of being this "jifpop". All I know is that many of you are not taking me up on real debate. I am restricted from argumentation if a person is to feeble to support her own contentions.

I assure you, I was only pressuring her points, not attacking her. Which seems to be a gray area on this site. Hinders debate IMO.

Are we clear now?
How about NO elections?

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ChosenWolff
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6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 6:35:43 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:28:11 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:26:05 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:21:09 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:19:52 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:50:01 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:27:01 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 5:52:07 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Hiya folks! I have a debate here, and my opponent trolled me. I have started a new debate, and I hope I can rap this up with a vote, Thanks!

http://www.debate.org...

I have also started a new debate here.....

http://www.debate.org...

Cheers!
http://www.debate.org...

Forgive me, but its not like this forum is exactly flooding with relevant topics. If you can't defeat them, you might as well join em'

Succumbing to peer pressure already? I'm disappointed.

I am thinking of contacting the mods. This is the 8th time you have tried to instigate conflict. I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but the 7 other times it sure as hell did not seem like it.

Can you respectfully leave me alone?

Ummm... you did start it with the snarky comments.

Look, I don't get sarcasm, and I'm not one to joke around or show attitude. I couldn't do it if I tried. All I know, is that there are several forums where she instigated flame wars with me.

How many times must I ask her to leave me alone? She can't seem to respect that. Good day!

I wasn't being sarcastic in the least. She merely pointed out where posts like this were supposed to go in a short non-aggressive manner. To which you replied:

Forgive me, but its not like this forum is exactly flooding with relevant topics. If you can't defeat them, you might as well join em'

Now instead of just apologizing and noting your ignorance due to being new here, you chose to assert that you weren't in the wrong. It is just plain rude.

While I agree that she does post a great deal, she did nothing wrong in this post. If you have an issue with other posts then say something in those.

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.
How about NO elections?

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6/9/2014 6:45:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.

Not at all. I'm saying that you had an easy way to diffuse the situation by stating that since you are new here you didn't know that you were not supposed to post requests for votes in the general area of the forum. Instead, you have just shown that you are rude because since this is your second account, and you should already know better, you see no problem with spamming the forum as you see fit when others adhere to a certain level of modicum.
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6/9/2014 6:49:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 6:45:08 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.

Not at all. I'm saying that you had an easy way to diffuse the situation by stating that since you are new here you didn't know that you were not supposed to post requests for votes in the general area of the forum. Instead, you have just shown that you are rude because since this is your second account, and you should already know better, you see no problem with spamming the forum as you see fit when others adhere to a certain level of modicum.

Lets just drop this. I promise to treat Esocial fairly, while asking her to respectfully ignore me, unless I instigate something with her. I can't stand for drama.

If Esocial agrees that is?
How about NO elections?

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6/9/2014 6:55:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I started a thread. I did not instigate a fight with her, did I? Even if I had, in the past, insinuated conflict, does that make the following justifiable?

Succumbing to peer pressure already? I'm disappointed.

It sounds like a flame bait to me.

Let's not obfuscate the issue now.

You did instigate a fight with her, by saying, "Forgive me, but its not like this forum is exactly flooding with relevant topics. If you can't defeat them, you might as well join em'." That was a poorly reasoned, snarky response to someone who only intended to help you. Even her response to you after that -- and, mind you, I wouldn't have responded to you; actually, I wouldn't even have pointed you in the right direction, but Esocial is a heck of a lot nicer than me, so there's that -- wasn't the least bit incendiary, and didn't even compare to yours, nor did it warrant the threatening reply that you would "contact the moderators."

It's also astounding that I got you to admit that you've instigated conflicts with her. This is a losing battle for you. I suggest you apologize and move on, and hopefully people will get over it. Heck, I don't hold grudges, and Annie is wayyyyy too nice to even consider it.

Second, you responded to her on the "How Homophobic are You" thread, stating that because she scored low -- meaning she wasn't homophobic -- that she must have lied. So you attacked both her integrity and her character by claiming that she's (1) homophobic and (2) a liar. I can confirm that is she is neither.

I had, in a private conversation, discovered some things which can not be shared. How can you confirm her integrity? Such blind faith in someone is foolish.

Blind faith? How utterly laughable. What a ridiculous assumption on your part. Did I state anything that could even be construed as blind faith?

Esocial happens to be one of my best friends on the site, and someone to whom I speak regularly. I know that she isn't homophobic because we've had several conversations on egalitarianism. I know that she's a good person because she has gone out of her way to comfort me, and has done the same for even some of the most controversial members of the site, jifpop and RM included.

Third, you instigated a conflict with her by insinuating that someone cannot be both Islamic and pro-gay marriage. Not only are you painfully wrong on matters of theology -- and your insinuation that religion could ever "justify" sexuality is highly offensive and idiotic -- but you questioned her religiosity for no reason whatsoever. It wasn't even relevant to the thread.

The site rules restrict me from posting PM's, which I found out after having one deleted. I had insinuated a debate with her, as she said several things that were not related to Islam.

First of all, this is the second time in this post where you have misused "insinuated" where you meant to say "instigated." It's not a big deal, but just something that I noticed and found particularly funny.

Second, you have completely dodged the question. You instigated a conflict with her. By all means, ask her to have a debate. But don't attack her in the forums, asking that she "prove to you that she's really an adherent to Islam," and then turn around and accuse HER of instigating conflicts with you.

She claimed she was homosexual and Islamic. I asked her a question respectfully, on a debate site, and she gratefully took me up on the debate. She took it out of the forums, and she talked about it with me over PM.

I don't know where in the world this notion has come from, but a lot of people have been spreading it. She isn't gay, but that's beside the point.

Again, you're obfuscating the point. Debating her is one thing. Calling her out in the forums and demanding that she justify herself to you is a low blow and wildly uncalled for.

If she allows me, I will show you the PM where she contended she was not Islamic. As someone with roots to Islam, I found it disgraceful that people would lie about their faith.

I really have no use for a PM of that nature whatsoever, because I really don't care about your private conversations with her. That's between you two. I simply don't want you polluting the forums with nonsense.

Fourth, you've attacked her on multiple occasions, suggesting that she needs to "prove her Islamic faith" to you. She doesn't need to prove anything to you or to anybody.

Once again, I respectfully asked her how you can be gay and Islamic. We had a fair debate over PM, where she ultimately contended.

Once again, obfuscation. Your private conversations with her are irrelevant. You didn't keep to those private conversations, now did you? You extended it to the open forums, intending to cast aspersions on her, and you even challenged her character, a point which you have not denied.

Can I not debate others on a debate site, or must we draw out drama?

Of course you can debate others on a debate site. But surely you are aware of the difference between "debate" and "provoke." You have done a whole lot of the latter and, from what I've seen at least, not much of the former.

I don't claim to know you, though I was suspicious, per YYW's post, that you and jifpop my have been the same person. From further observation, I don't think you are, as I think even jifpop wouldn't say such ridiculous things or engage in such flagrant projection.

I am sick of people accusing me of being this "jifpop". All I know is that many of you are not taking me up on real debate. I am restricted from argumentation if a person is to feeble to support her own contentions.

Now you're calling her feeble? You talk about wanting to have a debate, have issued several ad hominem attacks on her ALREADY -- and, by the way, logic fallacies do not constitute debates -- and are now complaining about how people supposedly don't want to debate you?

I also don't know that your comment is even true. You posted a thread asking for debate challenges, and I believe it was whiteflame who promptly asked you which topics you'd like to debate. How is that "no one wanting to debate you?"

At this point, being compared to jifpop is a compliment.

I assure you, I was only pressuring her points, not attacking her. Which seems to be a gray area on this site. Hinders debate IMO.

Are we clear now?

No, we aren't clear now, because you were attacking her, and I've proven it, and you haven't responded adequately to those points.

Granted, I don't want to have this nonsensical argument in the forums. if I could wave a magic wand and start anew, I'd do that, and I'm sure Annie would too. But attacking one of the nicest people on the site not only after having joined, as you have done, is just about the worst first impression you could ever make.
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6/9/2014 7:00:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Succumbing to peer pressure already? I'm disappointed.

It sounds like a flame bait to me.

I was joking. My apologies.

Second, you responded to her on the "How Homophobic are You" thread, stating that because she scored low -- meaning she wasn't homophobic -- that she must have lied. So you attacked both her integrity and her character by claiming that she's (1) homophobic and (2) a liar. I can confirm that is she is neither.

I had, in a private conversation, discovered some things which can not be shared. How can you confirm her integrity? Such blind faith in someone is foolish.

I am sixteen years old. Not all Muslims know the entire Qur'an by heart. I am still in the process of learning. I know how to pronounce Arabic but not translate yet. So I use a copy of the Qur'an that contains both the Arabic and English writing.

Third, you instigated a conflict with her by insinuating that someone cannot be both Islamic and pro-gay marriage. Not only are you painfully wrong on matters of theology -- and your insinuation that religion could ever "justify" sexuality is highly offensive and idiotic -- but you questioned her religiosity for no reason whatsoever. It wasn't even relevant to the thread.

The site rules restrict me from posting PM's, which I found out after having one deleted. I had insinuated a debate with her, as she said several things that were not related to Islam.

She claimed she was homosexual and Islamic. I asked her a question respectfully, on a debate site, and she gratefully took me up on the debate. She took it out of the forums, and she talked about it with me over PM.

If she allows me, I will show you the PM where she contended she was not Islamic.
I said I was not Islamic? Really? -_-
I said I am not the perfect Muslim but I NEVER said I was NOT a Muslim.

As someone with roots to Islam, I found it disgraceful that people would lie about their faith.
I was NOT lying about my faith.

Fourth, you've attacked her on multiple occasions, suggesting that she needs to "prove her Islamic faith" to you. She doesn't need to prove anything to you or to anybody.

Once again, I respectfully asked her how you can be gay and Islamic. We had a fair debate over PM, where she ultimately contended.

Can I not debate others on a debate site, or must we draw out drama?
There's this thing where you click on a button on your Account Dashboard saying, "Start a New Debate." OR you can ask someone if they would like to debate a topic and if they say yes, you challenge them.

I don't claim to know you, though I was suspicious, per YYW's post, that you and jifpop my have been the same person. From further observation, I don't think you are, as I think even jifpop wouldn't say such ridiculous things or engage in such flagrant projection.

I am sick of people accusing me of being this "jifpop". All I know is that many of you are not taking me up on real debate. I am restricted from argumentation if a person is to feeble to support her own contentions.

I told them you weren't.

I assure you, I was only pressuring her points, not attacking her.
-_- Really? I guess you really go learn something new everyday.

Dear Diary,
"Pressuring someone" means arguing PUBLICLY that you believe they are not a person of their faith.
Love always,
Annie.


Which seems to be a gray area on this site. Hinders debate IMO.

Are we clear now?
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I care about how to solve problems,
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6/9/2014 7:04:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 6:49:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:45:08 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.

Not at all. I'm saying that you had an easy way to diffuse the situation by stating that since you are new here you didn't know that you were not supposed to post requests for votes in the general area of the forum. Instead, you have just shown that you are rude because since this is your second account, and you should already know better, you see no problem with spamming the forum as you see fit when others adhere to a certain level of modicum.

Lets just drop this. I promise to treat Esocial fairly, while asking her to respectfully ignore me, unless I instigate something with her. I can't stand for drama.

If Esocial agrees that is?

"A promise is a comfort to a fool."

We already agreed to this and you called me out on a forum thread about homosexuality, claiming I must have lied.
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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6/9/2014 7:05:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 7:04:45 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:49:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:45:08 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.

Not at all. I'm saying that you had an easy way to diffuse the situation by stating that since you are new here you didn't know that you were not supposed to post requests for votes in the general area of the forum. Instead, you have just shown that you are rude because since this is your second account, and you should already know better, you see no problem with spamming the forum as you see fit when others adhere to a certain level of modicum.

Lets just drop this. I promise to treat Esocial fairly, while asking her to respectfully ignore me, unless I instigate something with her. I can't stand for drama.

If Esocial agrees that is?

"A promise is a comfort to a fool."

We already agreed to this and you called me out on a forum thread about homosexuality, claiming I must have lied.

I asked you to drop this. Can you do that, please? Trust me, I fully understand why you feel a need to have the last word. Sometimes its better to walk away from conflict.

Cheers!
How about NO elections?

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6/9/2014 7:08:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 7:05:44 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:04:45 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:49:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:45:08 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.

Not at all. I'm saying that you had an easy way to diffuse the situation by stating that since you are new here you didn't know that you were not supposed to post requests for votes in the general area of the forum. Instead, you have just shown that you are rude because since this is your second account, and you should already know better, you see no problem with spamming the forum as you see fit when others adhere to a certain level of modicum.

Lets just drop this. I promise to treat Esocial fairly, while asking her to respectfully ignore me, unless I instigate something with her. I can't stand for drama.

If Esocial agrees that is?

"A promise is a comfort to a fool."

We already agreed to this and you called me out on a forum thread about homosexuality, claiming I must have lied.

I asked you to drop this. Can you do that, please? Trust me, I fully understand why you feel a need to have the last word. Sometimes its better to walk away from conflict.

Cheers!

Let me translate your post:

"I'm going to accuse you of not wanting to drop it, even though I admitted that I've instigated conflicts with you, attacked your character and religion and integrity, and even lied by accusing you of saying things that you haven't."

I'd hate to be the one to tell you this, but you're in no place to ask someone else to drop it.

But, by all means, I think we all should just drop it and move on with our lives, provided that these incessant poking and prodding draws to a close.

Sound good?
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6/9/2014 7:09:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 7:08:26 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:05:44 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:04:45 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:49:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:45:08 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.

Not at all. I'm saying that you had an easy way to diffuse the situation by stating that since you are new here you didn't know that you were not supposed to post requests for votes in the general area of the forum. Instead, you have just shown that you are rude because since this is your second account, and you should already know better, you see no problem with spamming the forum as you see fit when others adhere to a certain level of modicum.

Lets just drop this. I promise to treat Esocial fairly, while asking her to respectfully ignore me, unless I instigate something with her. I can't stand for drama.

If Esocial agrees that is?

"A promise is a comfort to a fool."

We already agreed to this and you called me out on a forum thread about homosexuality, claiming I must have lied.

I asked you to drop this. Can you do that, please? Trust me, I fully understand why you feel a need to have the last word. Sometimes its better to walk away from conflict.

Cheers!

Let me translate your post:

"I'm going to accuse you of not wanting to drop it, even though I admitted that I've instigated conflicts with you, attacked your character and religion and integrity, and even lied by accusing you of saying things that you haven't."

I'd hate to be the one to tell you this, but you're in no place to ask someone else to drop it.

But, by all means, I think we all should just drop it and move on with our lives, provided that these incessant poking and prodding draws to a close.

Sound good?

Lol dude. Lighten up. I asked to make love, not war. Here you are stirring the pot.

If you want to insinuate things about me, we can do it over PM.

Were all good ;)
How about NO elections?

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6/9/2014 7:12:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 7:09:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:08:26 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:05:44 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:04:45 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:49:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:45:08 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.

Not at all. I'm saying that you had an easy way to diffuse the situation by stating that since you are new here you didn't know that you were not supposed to post requests for votes in the general area of the forum. Instead, you have just shown that you are rude because since this is your second account, and you should already know better, you see no problem with spamming the forum as you see fit when others adhere to a certain level of modicum.

Lets just drop this. I promise to treat Esocial fairly, while asking her to respectfully ignore me, unless I instigate something with her. I can't stand for drama.

If Esocial agrees that is?

"A promise is a comfort to a fool."

We already agreed to this and you called me out on a forum thread about homosexuality, claiming I must have lied.

I asked you to drop this. Can you do that, please? Trust me, I fully understand why you feel a need to have the last word. Sometimes its better to walk away from conflict.

Cheers!

Let me translate your post:

"I'm going to accuse you of not wanting to drop it, even though I admitted that I've instigated conflicts with you, attacked your character and religion and integrity, and even lied by accusing you of saying things that you haven't."

I'd hate to be the one to tell you this, but you're in no place to ask someone else to drop it.

But, by all means, I think we all should just drop it and move on with our lives, provided that these incessant poking and prodding draws to a close.

Sound good?

Lol dude. Lighten up. I asked to make love, not war. Here you are stirring the pot.

If you want to insinuate things about me, we can do it over PM.

Were all good ;)

Well, you still used "insinuate" incorrectly, but that was the closest.

No, I'm not stirring the pot. I'm simply not letting you feign victory by lying through your teeth. You, my friend, are stirring the pot.

But ok, I'm glad that you're willing to move on. I hope you and Annie either find a way to get along, or learn how to avoid each other. Again, starting a conflict with one of the nicest people on the site is really not the best way to introduce yourself to the site.
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6/9/2014 7:12:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 7:05:44 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:04:45 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:49:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:45:08 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.

Not at all. I'm saying that you had an easy way to diffuse the situation by stating that since you are new here you didn't know that you were not supposed to post requests for votes in the general area of the forum. Instead, you have just shown that you are rude because since this is your second account, and you should already know better, you see no problem with spamming the forum as you see fit when others adhere to a certain level of modicum.

Lets just drop this. I promise to treat Esocial fairly, while asking her to respectfully ignore me, unless I instigate something with her. I can't stand for drama.

If Esocial agrees that is?

"A promise is a comfort to a fool."

We already agreed to this and you called me out on a forum thread about homosexuality, claiming I must have lied.

I asked you to drop this. Can you do that, please? Trust me, I fully understand why you feel a need to have the last word. Sometimes its better to walk away from conflict.

Cheers!

I did walk away from it before last night. And you instigated another flame war, this morning.

TO MAKE THINGS FAIR FOR YOU,
I've contacted the mods.
IF I have violated the ToS, I will publicly apologize to you.

IF not,
we leave each other alone.

Does that sound fair?
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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6/9/2014 7:14:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 7:12:09 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:09:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:08:26 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:05:44 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:04:45 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:49:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:45:08 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.

Not at all. I'm saying that you had an easy way to diffuse the situation by stating that since you are new here you didn't know that you were not supposed to post requests for votes in the general area of the forum. Instead, you have just shown that you are rude because since this is your second account, and you should already know better, you see no problem with spamming the forum as you see fit when others adhere to a certain level of modicum.

Lets just drop this. I promise to treat Esocial fairly, while asking her to respectfully ignore me, unless I instigate something with her. I can't stand for drama.

If Esocial agrees that is?

"A promise is a comfort to a fool."

We already agreed to this and you called me out on a forum thread about homosexuality, claiming I must have lied.

I asked you to drop this. Can you do that, please? Trust me, I fully understand why you feel a need to have the last word. Sometimes its better to walk away from conflict.

Cheers!

Let me translate your post:

"I'm going to accuse you of not wanting to drop it, even though I admitted that I've instigated conflicts with you, attacked your character and religion and integrity, and even lied by accusing you of saying things that you haven't."

I'd hate to be the one to tell you this, but you're in no place to ask someone else to drop it.

But, by all means, I think we all should just drop it and move on with our lives, provided that these incessant poking and prodding draws to a close.

Sound good?

Lol dude. Lighten up. I asked to make love, not war. Here you are stirring the pot.

If you want to insinuate things about me, we can do it over PM.

Were all good ;)

Well, you still used "insinuate" incorrectly, but that was the closest.

No, I'm not stirring the pot. I'm simply not letting you feign victory by lying through your teeth. You, my friend, are stirring the pot.

But ok, I'm glad that you're willing to move on. I hope you and Annie either find a way to get along, or learn how to avoid each other. Again, starting a conflict with one of the nicest people on the site is really not the best way to introduce yourself to the site.

No one's claiming victory. You need to relax. Everytime you continue to push that I'm

"Feigning victory"

Your really just trying to keep the fight going. Lighten up, this is the INTERNET (acronym). We have little to actually fight about it. This problem really doesn't involve you.

Cheers!
How about NO elections?

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6/9/2014 7:16:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 7:12:27 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:05:44 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:04:45 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:49:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:45:08 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.

Not at all. I'm saying that you had an easy way to diffuse the situation by stating that since you are new here you didn't know that you were not supposed to post requests for votes in the general area of the forum. Instead, you have just shown that you are rude because since this is your second account, and you should already know better, you see no problem with spamming the forum as you see fit when others adhere to a certain level of modicum.

Lets just drop this. I promise to treat Esocial fairly, while asking her to respectfully ignore me, unless I instigate something with her. I can't stand for drama.

If Esocial agrees that is?

"A promise is a comfort to a fool."

We already agreed to this and you called me out on a forum thread about homosexuality, claiming I must have lied.

I asked you to drop this. Can you do that, please? Trust me, I fully understand why you feel a need to have the last word. Sometimes its better to walk away from conflict.

Cheers!

I did walk away from it before last night. And you instigated another flame war, this morning.

TO MAKE THINGS FAIR FOR YOU,
I've contacted the mods.
IF I have violated the ToS, I will publicly apologize to you.

IF not,
we leave each other alone.


Does that sound fair?

How about we leave each other alone anyways ;)
How about NO elections?

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6/9/2014 7:16:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 7:14:06 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:12:09 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:09:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:08:26 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:05:44 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:04:45 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:49:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:45:08 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.

Not at all. I'm saying that you had an easy way to diffuse the situation by stating that since you are new here you didn't know that you were not supposed to post requests for votes in the general area of the forum. Instead, you have just shown that you are rude because since this is your second account, and you should already know better, you see no problem with spamming the forum as you see fit when others adhere to a certain level of modicum.

Lets just drop this. I promise to treat Esocial fairly, while asking her to respectfully ignore me, unless I instigate something with her. I can't stand for drama.

If Esocial agrees that is?

"A promise is a comfort to a fool."

We already agreed to this and you called me out on a forum thread about homosexuality, claiming I must have lied.

I asked you to drop this. Can you do that, please? Trust me, I fully understand why you feel a need to have the last word. Sometimes its better to walk away from conflict.

Cheers!

Let me translate your post:

"I'm going to accuse you of not wanting to drop it, even though I admitted that I've instigated conflicts with you, attacked your character and religion and integrity, and even lied by accusing you of saying things that you haven't."

I'd hate to be the one to tell you this, but you're in no place to ask someone else to drop it.

But, by all means, I think we all should just drop it and move on with our lives, provided that these incessant poking and prodding draws to a close.

Sound good?

Lol dude. Lighten up. I asked to make love, not war. Here you are stirring the pot.

If you want to insinuate things about me, we can do it over PM.

Were all good ;)

Well, you still used "insinuate" incorrectly, but that was the closest.

No, I'm not stirring the pot. I'm simply not letting you feign victory by lying through your teeth. You, my friend, are stirring the pot.

But ok, I'm glad that you're willing to move on. I hope you and Annie either find a way to get along, or learn how to avoid each other. Again, starting a conflict with one of the nicest people on the site is really not the best way to introduce yourself to the site.

No one's claiming victory. You need to relax. Everytime you continue to push that I'm

"Feigning victory"


Your really just trying to keep the fight going. Lighten up, this is the INTERNET (acronym). We have little to actually fight about it. This problem really doesn't involve you.

Cheers!

You did feign victory through projection: accusing Annie of wanting to have the last word, yet STILL needing to have the last word.

This problem actually does involve me because you're attacking my friend. Of course I'm going to stand up for her. Who wouldn't?

And you keep insinuating -- yes, THIS is the proper usage of it -- that I'm in some way being rash. That isn't the case. I'm merely shooting down your poor logic and pointing out the endless fallacies in what you've written.
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6/9/2014 7:17:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 7:16:17 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:14:06 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:12:09 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:09:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:08:26 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:05:44 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:04:45 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:49:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:45:08 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.

Not at all. I'm saying that you had an easy way to diffuse the situation by stating that since you are new here you didn't know that you were not supposed to post requests for votes in the general area of the forum. Instead, you have just shown that you are rude because since this is your second account, and you should already know better, you see no problem with spamming the forum as you see fit when others adhere to a certain level of modicum.

Lets just drop this. I promise to treat Esocial fairly, while asking her to respectfully ignore me, unless I instigate something with her. I can't stand for drama.

If Esocial agrees that is?

"A promise is a comfort to a fool."

We already agreed to this and you called me out on a forum thread about homosexuality, claiming I must have lied.

I asked you to drop this. Can you do that, please? Trust me, I fully understand why you feel a need to have the last word. Sometimes its better to walk away from conflict.

Cheers!

Let me translate your post:

"I'm going to accuse you of not wanting to drop it, even though I admitted that I've instigated conflicts with you, attacked your character and religion and integrity, and even lied by accusing you of saying things that you haven't."

I'd hate to be the one to tell you this, but you're in no place to ask someone else to drop it.

But, by all means, I think we all should just drop it and move on with our lives, provided that these incessant poking and prodding draws to a close.

Sound good?

Lol dude. Lighten up. I asked to make love, not war. Here you are stirring the pot.

If you want to insinuate things about me, we can do it over PM.

Were all good ;)

Well, you still used "insinuate" incorrectly, but that was the closest.

No, I'm not stirring the pot. I'm simply not letting you feign victory by lying through your teeth. You, my friend, are stirring the pot.

But ok, I'm glad that you're willing to move on. I hope you and Annie either find a way to get along, or learn how to avoid each other. Again, starting a conflict with one of the nicest people on the site is really not the best way to introduce yourself to the site.

No one's claiming victory. You need to relax. Everytime you continue to push that I'm

"Feigning victory"


Your really just trying to keep the fight going. Lighten up, this is the INTERNET (acronym). We have little to actually fight about it. This problem really doesn't involve you.

Cheers!

You did feign victory through projection: accusing Annie of wanting to have the last word, yet STILL needing to have the last word.

This problem actually does involve me because you're attacking my friend. Of course I'm going to stand up for her. Who wouldn't?

And you keep insinuating -- yes, THIS is the proper usage of it -- that I'm in some way being rash. That isn't the case. I'm merely shooting down your poor logic and pointing out the endless fallacies in what you've written.

Hey man, I sent you a PM. Nobody wants to see our drama. Good Day, I'll talk to you more there (P.P)
How about NO elections?

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6/9/2014 7:31:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 7:16:04 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:12:27 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:05:44 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 7:04:45 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:49:49 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:45:08 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 6/9/2014 6:41:55 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:

Are you saying, as a noob, I will always be incorrect in matters of this site. Just to state now, this is my second account. I briefly held another for a month.

Not at all. I'm saying that you had an easy way to diffuse the situation by stating that since you are new here you didn't know that you were not supposed to post requests for votes in the general area of the forum. Instead, you have just shown that you are rude because since this is your second account, and you should already know better, you see no problem with spamming the forum as you see fit when others adhere to a certain level of modicum.

Lets just drop this. I promise to treat Esocial fairly, while asking her to respectfully ignore me, unless I instigate something with her. I can't stand for drama.

If Esocial agrees that is?

"A promise is a comfort to a fool."

We already agreed to this and you called me out on a forum thread about homosexuality, claiming I must have lied.

I asked you to drop this. Can you do that, please? Trust me, I fully understand why you feel a need to have the last word. Sometimes its better to walk away from conflict.

Cheers!

I did walk away from it before last night. And you instigated another flame war, this morning.

TO MAKE THINGS FAIR FOR YOU,
I've contacted the mods.
IF I have violated the ToS, I will publicly apologize to you.

IF not,
we leave each other alone.


Does that sound fair?

How about we leave each other alone anyways ;)

I have spoken to the mod and he said that as far as he sees, I have not violated the ToS yet.

Therefore, we are to leave each other alone from now.
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which is what everyone else should also care about.

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Me~
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MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.