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phantom
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6/22/2014 12:02:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Why do forfeited debates show up in the voting section?

I thought Juggle fixed this.
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ChosenWolff
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6/22/2014 12:07:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/22/2014 12:02:52 PM, phantom wrote:
Why do forfeited debates show up in the voting section?

I thought Juggle fixed this.

They still need votes probably. More importantly, DDO has a weird glitch. My opponent (fanath) forfeited this round, it said it was my turn, but the debate says cancelled. It makes no sense.

http://www.debate.org...
How about NO elections?

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phantom
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6/22/2014 12:12:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/22/2014 12:07:07 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/22/2014 12:02:52 PM, phantom wrote:
Why do forfeited debates show up in the voting section?

I thought Juggle fixed this.

They still need votes probably.

They pollute the voting section with worthless debates that people wished they never clicked on, and make it harder for good debates to get views and votes. The unvoted thread is an easy enough solution to forfeited debates with no votes.

Some debates with forfeits are worth reading, but the vast majority are a waste of time.

More importantly, DDO has a weird glitch. My opponent (fanath) forfeited this round, it said it was my turn, but the debate says cancelled. It makes no sense.

http://www.debate.org...

If he forfeited the first round, then it's not a glitch. Debates have always been scraped if the first round gets forfeited.
"Music is a zen-like ecstatic state where you become the new man of the future, the Nietzschean merger of Apollo and Dionysus." Ray Manzarek (The Doors)
ChosenWolff
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6/22/2014 12:22:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/22/2014 12:12:53 PM, phantom wrote:
At 6/22/2014 12:07:07 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/22/2014 12:02:52 PM, phantom wrote:
Why do forfeited debates show up in the voting section?

I thought Juggle fixed this.

They still need votes probably.

They pollute the voting section with worthless debates that people wished they never clicked on, and make it harder for good debates to get views and votes. The unvoted thread is an easy enough solution to forfeited debates with no votes.

I don't think the voting section is the problem. It's a motivation to vote, although I don't think eliminating forfeited debates is a good idea. I make long arguments which cause my opponents to forfeit.

Some debates with forfeits are worth reading, but the vast majority are a waste of time.

More importantly, DDO has a weird glitch. My opponent (fanath) forfeited this round, it said it was my turn, but the debate says cancelled. It makes no sense.

http://www.debate.org...

If he forfeited the first round, then it's not a glitch. Debates have always been scraped if the first round gets forfeited.

That knowledge would of helped me greatly in the past. I accepted a couple of regretful debates.
How about NO elections?

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6/22/2014 12:37:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/22/2014 12:12:53 PM, phantom wrote:
At 6/22/2014 12:07:07 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/22/2014 12:02:52 PM, phantom wrote:
Why do forfeited debates show up in the voting section?

I thought Juggle fixed this.

They still need votes probably.

They pollute the voting section with worthless debates that people wished they never clicked on, and make it harder for good debates to get views and votes. The unvoted thread is an easy enough solution to forfeited debates with no votes.

Some debates with forfeits are worth reading, but the vast majority are a waste of time.

I've decided to try to start playing Devil's advocate against myself in the event of a forfeit when I waste a lot of time preparing an argument. I tried it over here and it was hella interesting to me trying to counter myself: http://www.debate.org...

More importantly, DDO has a weird glitch. My opponent (fanath) forfeited this round, it said it was my turn, but the debate says cancelled. It makes no sense.

http://www.debate.org...

If he forfeited the first round, then it's not a glitch. Debates have always been scraped if the first round gets forfeited.
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6/22/2014 3:55:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/22/2014 12:22:29 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/22/2014 12:12:53 PM, phantom wrote:
At 6/22/2014 12:07:07 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/22/2014 12:02:52 PM, phantom wrote:
Why do forfeited debates show up in the voting section?

I thought Juggle fixed this.

They still need votes probably.

They pollute the voting section with worthless debates that people wished they never clicked on, and make it harder for good debates to get views and votes. The unvoted thread is an easy enough solution to forfeited debates with no votes.

I don't think the voting section is the problem. It's a motivation to vote, although I don't think eliminating forfeited debates is a good idea. I make long arguments which cause my opponents to forfeit.

I don't think forfeited debates should be deleted. That would be even worse. In the past, forfeited debates simply didn't show up in the voting section but could still be voted on. Then Juggle changed it; I thought they changed it back.

Some debates with forfeits are worth reading, but the vast majority are a waste of time.

More importantly, DDO has a weird glitch. My opponent (fanath) forfeited this round, it said it was my turn, but the debate says cancelled. It makes no sense.

http://www.debate.org...

If he forfeited the first round, then it's not a glitch. Debates have always been scraped if the first round gets forfeited.

That knowledge would of helped me greatly in the past. I accepted a couple of regretful debates.

I've used it a few times but try not to since it can be annoying for the one who started the debate.
"Music is a zen-like ecstatic state where you become the new man of the future, the Nietzschean merger of Apollo and Dionysus." Ray Manzarek (The Doors)
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6/22/2014 3:56:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/22/2014 12:37:38 PM, 2-D wrote:
At 6/22/2014 12:12:53 PM, phantom wrote:
At 6/22/2014 12:07:07 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/22/2014 12:02:52 PM, phantom wrote:
Why do forfeited debates show up in the voting section?

I thought Juggle fixed this.

They still need votes probably.

They pollute the voting section with worthless debates that people wished they never clicked on, and make it harder for good debates to get views and votes. The unvoted thread is an easy enough solution to forfeited debates with no votes.

Some debates with forfeits are worth reading, but the vast majority are a waste of time.

I've decided to try to start playing Devil's advocate against myself in the event of a forfeit when I waste a lot of time preparing an argument. I tried it over here and it was hella interesting to me trying to counter myself: http://www.debate.org...

Lol, I thought about doing that once but I was too lazy.

More importantly, DDO has a weird glitch. My opponent (fanath) forfeited this round, it said it was my turn, but the debate says cancelled. It makes no sense.

http://www.debate.org...

If he forfeited the first round, then it's not a glitch. Debates have always been scraped if the first round gets forfeited.
"Music is a zen-like ecstatic state where you become the new man of the future, the Nietzschean merger of Apollo and Dionysus." Ray Manzarek (The Doors)