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toughenough
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6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
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Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.
Let me tell you something you already know; the world aint all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. - See more at: http://inspir.me...
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6/25/2014 11:29:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
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Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

I remember seeing that quote elsewhere... It is definitely saddening... What the Jews had to go through as well as this one saying that... :(
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6/25/2014 11:33:23 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:29:00 AM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
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Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

I remember seeing that quote elsewhere... It is definitely saddening... What the Jews had to go through as well as this one saying that... :(

Your God let it happen.
Let me tell you something you already know; the world aint all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. - See more at: http://inspir.me...
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6/25/2014 11:35:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:29:00 AM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
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Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

I remember seeing that quote elsewhere... It is definitely saddening... What the Jews had to go through as well as this one saying that... :(

So, the logical question of evil: He loves us, cares for us, but why does He let us this happen to us?

Ik you answered this, but let's do a Game-Theorotical Experiment; state your points to the DDo society for me.
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6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
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Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?
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6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
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Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.
Let me tell you something you already know; the world aint all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. - See more at: http://inspir.me...
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6/25/2014 11:49:35 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

God created you. He owes you nothing. He can do as he pleases. Read the book of Job. Also this belongs in the religious section.
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6/25/2014 11:53:18 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:49:35 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

God created you. He owes you nothing. He can do as he pleases. Read the book of Job. Also this belongs in the religious section.

I don't owe him anything either the b*tch that he is.
Let me tell you something you already know; the world aint all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. - See more at: http://inspir.me...
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6/25/2014 11:54:43 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:53:18 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:49:35 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

God created you. He owes you nothing. He can do as he pleases. Read the book of Job. Also this belongs in the religious section.

I don't owe him anything either the b*tch that he is.

Than you agree. He is doing nothing unethical by allowing people to suffer?
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6/25/2014 11:55:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:54:43 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:53:18 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:49:35 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

God created you. He owes you nothing. He can do as he pleases. Read the book of Job. Also this belongs in the religious section.

I don't owe him anything either the b*tch that he is.

Than you agree. He is doing nothing unethical by allowing people to suffer?

Yeah he is. He just gets away with it because he's an overpowered mofo.
Let me tell you something you already know; the world aint all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. - See more at: http://inspir.me...
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6/25/2014 11:57:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:55:38 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:54:43 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:53:18 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:49:35 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

God created you. He owes you nothing. He can do as he pleases. Read the book of Job. Also this belongs in the religious section.

I don't owe him anything either the b*tch that he is.

Than you agree. He is doing nothing unethical by allowing people to suffer?

Yeah he is. He just gets away with it because he's an overpowered mofo.

Explain how his apathy is unethical. You admitted he owes you nothing. Why would an entity that owes you nothing be compelled to prevent your suffering?
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6/25/2014 12:00:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:57:24 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:55:38 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:54:43 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:53:18 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:49:35 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

God created you. He owes you nothing. He can do as he pleases. Read the book of Job. Also this belongs in the religious section.

I don't owe him anything either the b*tch that he is.

Than you agree. He is doing nothing unethical by allowing people to suffer?

Yeah he is. He just gets away with it because he's an overpowered mofo.

Explain how his apathy is unethical. You admitted he owes you nothing. Why would an entity that owes you nothing be compelled to prevent your suffering?

Because you don't be nice to people you owe. You be nice to people to be a good person and not a d*ckhead. I am not nice to people I owe only, I am also nice to people I don't owe so that they end up owing me because that's how you get by in life without ending up alone. If he wants to be really worshiped, like Gandhi and Nelson Mandela were, he should learn their tactics of selflessness.

It's pretty obvious he loves being worshiped since you get eternally punished for failing to worship him, therefore if he had half of the omniscient brain that he's made out to have, he wouldn't do sh*t like concentration camps.

Doesn't matter anyway, the idiot doesn't exist, thank "god" for that.
Let me tell you something you already know; the world aint all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. - See more at: http://inspir.me...
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6/25/2014 12:01:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

Hahaha. Okay, after I get back from vacation lets debate "Religion is nothing but an appeal to emotion"
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: At 11/12/2016 11:49:40 PM, Raisor wrote:
: thett was right
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6/25/2014 12:02:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 12:01:15 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

Hahaha. Okay, after I get back from vacation lets debate "Religion is nothing but an appeal to emotion"

I meant the reasoning behind it.
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6/25/2014 12:07:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
So hey, I'm Jewish. My great grandfather lost, literally, all of his family in the Holocaust. It's a large part of the reason I've made my views of God as nuanced as they are, but it's also a large part of the reason I'm still Jewish. We discuss the Holocaust in Hebrew school, in services, and in separate forums all the time. I find that Judaism makes a special effort not to explain how God could have allowed the Holocaust, but rather just to make it an open topic for discussion. What does it mean that this happened? There were many Jews who divorced themselves from their religion as a result. There's no effort made to chide them for it, merely to show what was and leave the interpretation open.

So I don't think this is necessarily a challenge to religion. It's a challenge to how we believe in God, but I don't think that necessarily says anything is wrong with the structure of a religion. It just changes our focus and perspectives.
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6/25/2014 12:11:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 12:00:56 PM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:57:24 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:55:38 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:54:43 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:53:18 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:49:35 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

God created you. He owes you nothing. He can do as he pleases. Read the book of Job. Also this belongs in the religious section.

I don't owe him anything either the b*tch that he is.

Than you agree. He is doing nothing unethical by allowing people to suffer?

Yeah he is. He just gets away with it because he's an overpowered mofo.

Explain how his apathy is unethical. You admitted he owes you nothing. Why would an entity that owes you nothing be compelled to prevent your suffering?

Because you don't be nice to people you owe. You be nice to people to be a good person and not a d*ckhead. I am not nice to people I owe only, I am also nice to people I don't owe so that they end up owing me because that's how you get by in life without ending up alone.

You're nice to people so they owe you? That's a messed up reason to be nice. Anyway, that type of manipulation wouldn't work with me. I'm not going to feel like I owe you, just because you show me kindness.

If he wants to be really worshiped, like Gandhi and Nelson Mandela were, he should learn their tactics of selflessness.

Maybe he doesn't want to be worshipped, or even care if he's worshipped. I'd argue that selflessness doesn't exist. Examine why you're selfless and you'll see it's often for selfish reasons. You gave money to charity, because it feels good. You wrestled a bear to save the girl because you thought she'd reward you with sex etc...

It's pretty obvious he loves being worshiped since you get eternally punished for failing to worship him, therefore if he had half of the omniscient brain that he's made out to have, he wouldn't do sh*t like concentration camps.

He didn't do concentration camps. That was FDR and Hitler. How do you know he eternally punishes people, for not worshipping him. My guess is that he wouldn't necessarily care if he's worshipped. I don't see why you'd think he'd punish people for not believing in him.

Doesn't matter anyway, the idiot doesn't exist, thank "god" for that.

How do you know he doesn't exist?
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6/25/2014 12:15:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
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Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

It's another form of a religous question that is frequently answered. God allows terrible things to happen. In the Old Testiment it tells that the faith of many will be tested. If you really want to get technical. Hitler was the 2nd Anti-Christ predicted by Nastrodaumas. So it seems plauable that God would allow the anti-Christ to do what he is suppose to do.
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6/25/2014 12:36:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 12:11:26 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:00:56 PM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:57:24 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:55:38 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:54:43 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:53:18 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:49:35 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

God created you. He owes you nothing. He can do as he pleases. Read the book of Job. Also this belongs in the religious section.

I don't owe him anything either the b*tch that he is.

Than you agree. He is doing nothing unethical by allowing people to suffer?

Yeah he is. He just gets away with it because he's an overpowered mofo.

Explain how his apathy is unethical. You admitted he owes you nothing. Why would an entity that owes you nothing be compelled to prevent your suffering?

Because you don't be nice to people you owe. You be nice to people to be a good person and not a d*ckhead. I am not nice to people I owe only, I am also nice to people I don't owe so that they end up owing me because that's how you get by in life without ending up alone.

You're nice to people so they owe you? That's a messed up reason to be nice. Anyway, that type of manipulation wouldn't work with me. I'm not going to feel like I owe you, just because you show me kindness.

No, I'm nice to people in the hopes that they'll one day repay me in some way. If they don't that's too bad, a-holes like you are everywhere you take but never give. That's just pathetic and sad that people like you exist.

If he wants to be really worshiped, like Gandhi and Nelson Mandela were, he should learn their tactics of selflessness.

Maybe he doesn't want to be worshipped, or even care if he's worshipped. I'd argue that selflessness doesn't exist. Examine why you're selfless and you'll see it's often for selfish reasons. You gave money to charity, because it feels good. You wrestled a bear to save the girl because you thought she'd reward you with sex etc...

That's totally why the primary rule of every religion other than Buddhism is to lick his fine a** and kneel before his magnificence.

It's pretty obvious he loves being worshiped since you get eternally punished for failing to worship him, therefore if he had half of the omniscient brain that he's made out to have, he wouldn't do sh*t like concentration camps.

He didn't do concentration camps. That was FDR and Hitler. How do you know he eternally punishes people, for not worshipping him. My guess is that he wouldn't necessarily care if he's worshipped. I don't see why you'd think he'd punish people for not believing in him.

He is omniscient and omnipotent, he knew they would happen before they happened and was capable of preventing them. He allowed them to exist and on top of the was the original creator of the perpetrators.

Doesn't matter anyway, the idiot doesn't exist, thank "god" for that.

How do you know he doesn't exist?

Because he doesn't deserve my recognition of existing if he does.
Let me tell you something you already know; the world aint all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. - See more at: http://inspir.me...
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6/25/2014 12:37:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 12:15:44 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

It's another form of a religous question that is frequently answered. God allows terrible things to happen. In the Old Testiment it tells that the faith of many will be tested. If you really want to get technical. Hitler was the 2nd Anti-Christ predicted by Nastrodaumas. So it seems plauable that God would allow the anti-Christ to do what he is suppose to do.

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6/25/2014 12:50:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 12:36:48 PM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:11:26 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:00:56 PM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:57:24 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:55:38 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:54:43 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:53:18 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:49:35 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

God created you. He owes you nothing. He can do as he pleases. Read the book of Job. Also this belongs in the religious section.

I don't owe him anything either the b*tch that he is.

Than you agree. He is doing nothing unethical by allowing people to suffer?

Yeah he is. He just gets away with it because he's an overpowered mofo.

Explain how his apathy is unethical. You admitted he owes you nothing. Why would an entity that owes you nothing be compelled to prevent your suffering?

Because you don't be nice to people you owe. You be nice to people to be a good person and not a d*ckhead. I am not nice to people I owe only, I am also nice to people I don't owe so that they end up owing me because that's how you get by in life without ending up alone.

You're nice to people so they owe you? That's a messed up reason to be nice. Anyway, that type of manipulation wouldn't work with me. I'm not going to feel like I owe you, just because you show me kindness.

No, I'm nice to people in the hopes that they'll one day repay me in some way. If they don't that's too bad, a-holes like you are everywhere you take but never give. That's just pathetic and sad that people like you exist.

Being nice to people in hopes they repay you is unethical. I shouldn't have to point that out. I have no problem with giving. I won't however, bend to the emotional black mail that people such as psychopaths use to manipulate their victims. Giving something so somebody feels like they owe you and will repay you handsomely is a typical tactic used by psychopaths.

If he wants to be really worshiped, like Gandhi and Nelson Mandela were, he should learn their tactics of selflessness.

Maybe he doesn't want to be worshipped, or even care if he's worshipped. I'd argue that selflessness doesn't exist. Examine why you're selfless and you'll see it's often for selfish reasons. You gave money to charity, because it feels good. You wrestled a bear to save the girl because you thought she'd reward you with sex etc...

That's totally why the primary rule of every religion other than Buddhism is to lick his fine a** and kneel before his magnificence.

Why does the doctrines of most religions control you view of the attributes of God? It's nonsensical. Unless these doctrines have some special significance than your attacks on God is unwarranted.

It's pretty obvious he loves being worshiped since you get eternally punished for failing to worship him, therefore if he had half of the omniscient brain that he's made out to have, he wouldn't do sh*t like concentration camps.

He didn't do concentration camps. That was FDR and Hitler. How do you know he eternally punishes people, for not worshipping him. My guess is that he wouldn't necessarily care if he's worshipped. I don't see why you'd think he'd punish people for not believing in him.

He is omniscient and omnipotent, he knew they would happen before they happened and was capable of preventing them. He allowed them to exist and on top of the was the original creator of the perpetrators.

It would be immoral for God to restrict free will and not allow these atrocities to happen.
If God restricted people from doing evil, he would basically be a slave driver. These atrocities actually help serve as evidence for God's goodness.

Doesn't matter anyway, the idiot doesn't exist, thank "god" for that.

How do you know he doesn't exist?

Because he doesn't deserve my recognition of existing if he does.

That's illogical. Your feelings have no bearing on the existence if God. It seems as if you're allowing emotions to influence your belief system in a nonsensical way.
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6/25/2014 12:54:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 12:50:30 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:36:48 PM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:11:26 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:00:56 PM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:57:24 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:55:38 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:54:43 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:53:18 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:49:35 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

God created you. He owes you nothing. He can do as he pleases. Read the book of Job. Also this belongs in the religious section.

I don't owe him anything either the b*tch that he is.

Than you agree. He is doing nothing unethical by allowing people to suffer?

Yeah he is. He just gets away with it because he's an overpowered mofo.

Explain how his apathy is unethical. You admitted he owes you nothing. Why would an entity that owes you nothing be compelled to prevent your suffering?

Because you don't be nice to people you owe. You be nice to people to be a good person and not a d*ckhead. I am not nice to people I owe only, I am also nice to people I don't owe so that they end up owing me because that's how you get by in life without ending up alone.

You're nice to people so they owe you? That's a messed up reason to be nice. Anyway, that type of manipulation wouldn't work with me. I'm not going to feel like I owe you, just because you show me kindness.

No, I'm nice to people in the hopes that they'll one day repay me in some way. If they don't that's too bad, a-holes like you are everywhere you take but never give. That's just pathetic and sad that people like you exist.

Being nice to people in hopes they repay you is unethical. I shouldn't have to point that out. I have no problem with giving. I won't however, bend to the emotional black mail that people such as psychopaths use to manipulate their victims. Giving something so somebody feels like they owe you and will repay you handsomely is a typical tactic used by psychopaths.

Na,the reason you resist being nice to people who are manipulating you is because you, yourself are a psychopath in denial.

If he wants to be really worshiped, like Gandhi and Nelson Mandela were, he should learn their tactics of selflessness.

Maybe he doesn't want to be worshipped, or even care if he's worshipped. I'd argue that selflessness doesn't exist. Examine why you're selfless and you'll see it's often for selfish reasons. You gave money to charity, because it feels good. You wrestled a bear to save the girl because you thought she'd reward you with sex etc...

That's totally why the primary rule of every religion other than Buddhism is to lick his fine a** and kneel before his magnificence.

Why does the doctrines of most religions control you view of the attributes of God? It's nonsensical. Unless these doctrines have some special significance than your attacks on God is unwarranted.

God doesn't exist outside of religion. God is an imaginary friend necessary for religion to brainwash in individual. Deistic God is a joke because Deists are just hipster atheists trying to stand out from the crowd.

It's pretty obvious he loves being worshiped since you get eternally punished for failing to worship him, therefore if he had half of the omniscient brain that he's made out to have, he wouldn't do sh*t like concentration camps.

He didn't do concentration camps. That was FDR and Hitler. How do you know he eternally punishes people, for not worshipping him. My guess is that he wouldn't necessarily care if he's worshipped. I don't see why you'd think he'd punish people for not believing in him.

He is omniscient and omnipotent, he knew they would happen before they happened and was capable of preventing them. He allowed them to exist and on top of the was the original creator of the perpetrators.

It would be immoral for God to restrict free will and not allow these atrocities to happen.

Free will being present in an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent God's universe is a juxtaposition.

If God restricted people from doing evil, he would basically be a slave driver. These atrocities actually help serve as evidence for God's goodness.

Yeah, well done, you finally realized what god is, now onto your next argument.

Doesn't matter anyway, the idiot doesn't exist, thank "god" for that.

How do you know he doesn't exist?

Because he doesn't deserve my recognition of existing if he does.

That's illogical. Your feelings have no bearing on the existence if God. It seems as if you're allowing emotions to influence your belief system in a nonsensical way.

Why do I need to use logic?
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6/25/2014 1:02:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 12:54:38 PM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:50:30 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:36:48 PM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:11:26 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:00:56 PM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:57:24 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:55:38 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:54:43 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:53:18 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:49:35 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

God created you. He owes you nothing. He can do as he pleases. Read the book of Job. Also this belongs in the religious section.

I don't owe him anything either the b*tch that he is.

Than you agree. He is doing nothing unethical by allowing people to suffer?

Yeah he is. He just gets away with it because he's an overpowered mofo.

Explain how his apathy is unethical. You admitted he owes you nothing. Why would an entity that owes you nothing be compelled to prevent your suffering?

Because you don't be nice to people you owe. You be nice to people to be a good person and not a d*ckhead. I am not nice to people I owe only, I am also nice to people I don't owe so that they end up owing me because that's how you get by in life without ending up alone.

You're nice to people so they owe you? That's a messed up reason to be nice. Anyway, that type of manipulation wouldn't work with me. I'm not going to feel like I owe you, just because you show me kindness.

No, I'm nice to people in the hopes that they'll one day repay me in some way. If they don't that's too bad, a-holes like you are everywhere you take but never give. That's just pathetic and sad that people like you exist.

Being nice to people in hopes they repay you is unethical. I shouldn't have to point that out. I have no problem with giving. I won't however, bend to the emotional black mail that people such as psychopaths use to manipulate their victims. Giving something so somebody feels like they owe you and will repay you handsomely is a typical tactic used by psychopaths.

Na,the reason you resist being nice to people who are manipulating you is because you, yourself are a psychopath in denial.

I was attempting to have a meaningful dialogue with you. Your insults make it clear this is impossible. Your retarded answers for the rest of my statements indicate the same thing. You're using circular logic, and your beliefs are based on the flimsiest of premises. I hope you don't act this stupid in my debate with you.

If he wants to be really worshiped, like Gandhi and Nelson Mandela were, he should learn their tactics of selflessness.

Maybe he doesn't want to be worshipped, or even care if he's worshipped. I'd argue that selflessness doesn't exist. Examine why you're selfless and you'll see it's often for selfish reasons. You gave money to charity, because it feels good. You wrestled a bear to save the girl because you thought she'd reward you with sex etc...

That's totally why the primary rule of every religion other than Buddhism is to lick his fine a** and kneel before his magnificence.

Why does the doctrines of most religions control you view of the attributes of God? It's nonsensical. Unless these doctrines have some special significance than your attacks on God is unwarranted.

God doesn't exist outside of religion. God is an imaginary friend necessary for religion to brainwash in individual. Deistic God is a joke because Deists are just hipster atheists trying to stand out from the crowd.

It's pretty obvious he loves being worshiped since you get eternally punished for failing to worship him, therefore if he had half of the omniscient brain that he's made out to have, he wouldn't do sh*t like concentration camps.

He didn't do concentration camps. That was FDR and Hitler. How do you know he eternally punishes people, for not worshipping him. My guess is that he wouldn't necessarily care if he's worshipped. I don't see why you'd think he'd punish people for not believing in him.

He is omniscient and omnipotent, he knew they would happen before they happened and was capable of preventing them. He allowed them to exist and on top of the was the original creator of the perpetrators.

It would be immoral for God to restrict free will and not allow these atrocities to happen.

Free will being present in an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent God's universe is a juxtaposition.

If God restricted people from doing evil, he would basically be a slave driver. These atrocities actually help serve as evidence for God's goodness.

Yeah, well done, you finally realized what god is, now onto your next argument.

Doesn't matter anyway, the idiot doesn't exist, thank "god" for that.

How do you know he doesn't exist?

Because he doesn't deserve my recognition of existing if he does.

That's illogical. Your feelings have no bearing on the existence if God. It seems as if you're allowing emotions to influence your belief system in a nonsensical way.

Why do I need to use logic?
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6/25/2014 1:03:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 1:02:13 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:54:38 PM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:50:30 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:36:48 PM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:11:26 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 12:00:56 PM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:57:24 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:55:38 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:54:43 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:53:18 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:49:35 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

God created you. He owes you nothing. He can do as he pleases. Read the book of Job. Also this belongs in the religious section.

I don't owe him anything either the b*tch that he is.

Than you agree. He is doing nothing unethical by allowing people to suffer?

Yeah he is. He just gets away with it because he's an overpowered mofo.

Explain how his apathy is unethical. You admitted he owes you nothing. Why would an entity that owes you nothing be compelled to prevent your suffering?

Because you don't be nice to people you owe. You be nice to people to be a good person and not a d*ckhead. I am not nice to people I owe only, I am also nice to people I don't owe so that they end up owing me because that's how you get by in life without ending up alone.

You're nice to people so they owe you? That's a messed up reason to be nice. Anyway, that type of manipulation wouldn't work with me. I'm not going to feel like I owe you, just because you show me kindness.

No, I'm nice to people in the hopes that they'll one day repay me in some way. If they don't that's too bad, a-holes like you are everywhere you take but never give. That's just pathetic and sad that people like you exist.

Being nice to people in hopes they repay you is unethical. I shouldn't have to point that out. I have no problem with giving. I won't however, bend to the emotional black mail that people such as psychopaths use to manipulate their victims. Giving something so somebody feels like they owe you and will repay you handsomely is a typical tactic used by psychopaths.

Na,the reason you resist being nice to people who are manipulating you is because you, yourself are a psychopath in denial.

I was attempting to have a meaningful dialogue with you. Your insults make it clear this is impossible. Your retarded answers for the rest of my statements indicate the same thing. You're using circular logic, and your beliefs are based on the flimsiest of premises. I hope you don't act this stupid in my debate with you.

Crying because a guy insults you and calling him retarded. Cute. Being a psychopath is not an insult, it's a psychological state that you can't help having.

If he wants to be really worshiped, like Gandhi and Nelson Mandela were, he should learn their tactics of selflessness.

Maybe he doesn't want to be worshipped, or even care if he's worshipped. I'd argue that selflessness doesn't exist. Examine why you're selfless and you'll see it's often for selfish reasons. You gave money to charity, because it feels good. You wrestled a bear to save the girl because you thought she'd reward you with sex etc...

That's totally why the primary rule of every religion other than Buddhism is to lick his fine a** and kneel before his magnificence.

Why does the doctrines of most religions control you view of the attributes of God? It's nonsensical. Unless these doctrines have some special significance than your attacks on God is unwarranted.

God doesn't exist outside of religion. God is an imaginary friend necessary for religion to brainwash in individual. Deistic God is a joke because Deists are just hipster atheists trying to stand out from the crowd.

It's pretty obvious he loves being worshiped since you get eternally punished for failing to worship him, therefore if he had half of the omniscient brain that he's made out to have, he wouldn't do sh*t like concentration camps.

He didn't do concentration camps. That was FDR and Hitler. How do you know he eternally punishes people, for not worshipping him. My guess is that he wouldn't necessarily care if he's worshipped. I don't see why you'd think he'd punish people for not believing in him.

He is omniscient and omnipotent, he knew they would happen before they happened and was capable of preventing them. He allowed them to exist and on top of the was the original creator of the perpetrators.

It would be immoral for God to restrict free will and not allow these atrocities to happen.

Free will being present in an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent God's universe is a juxtaposition.

If God restricted people from doing evil, he would basically be a slave driver. These atrocities actually help serve as evidence for God's goodness.

Yeah, well done, you finally realized what god is, now onto your next argument.

Doesn't matter anyway, the idiot doesn't exist, thank "god" for that.

How do you know he doesn't exist?

Because he doesn't deserve my recognition of existing if he does.

That's illogical. Your feelings have no bearing on the existence if God. It seems as if you're allowing emotions to influence your belief system in a nonsensical way.

Why do I need to use logic?
Let me tell you something you already know; the world aint all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. - See more at: http://inspir.me...
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6/25/2014 2:01:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
As much as this technically belongs in the religious section, that it hasn't been trolled yet shows why it might be better off here...
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6/25/2014 3:22:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Its funny when people blame God for the evil they caused.

On DDO we welcome intellectual discussion only, not ignorant attacks against certain groups of people. If you want to participate in a religious discussion without attacking anyone then that is fine.
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6/25/2014 3:24:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 12:01:15 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:42:55 AM, toughenough wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:41:38 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

Why would I use an appeal to emotion to rebut an appeal to emotion?

Religion is nothing but appeal to emotion so there's nothing else to use.

Hahaha. Okay, after I get back from vacation lets debate "Religion is nothing but an appeal to emotion"

Yes please.
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6/25/2014 3:48:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Whelp. This seems like a very productive, formal, non-flame-warry-esque thread that's likely to promote DDO as a site for intellectuals to discuss without fear of harassment. 100%.
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6/25/2014 4:24:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/25/2014 11:25:02 AM, toughenough wrote:
http://i.imgur.com...

Use your emotional appeal tactics to overcome the emotional impact of this quote and you will have gained my heartfelt respect.

The problem with arguments from evil is that they make too many assumptions about evil, suffering, and the purpose of suffering which are literally unprovable, and which no Christian theologian would agree with.
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