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Progressivedem's Stanley Cup, Round 1

progressivedem22
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6/29/2014 10:52:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Hello and welcome to the first installment of the Progressivedem Stanley Cup. I"m honored to be able to say that we have four fantastic debaters competing in a Round-Robin style tournament. All debates will take place over Google+, as has been discussed, and posted to the forums for evaluation. Due, unfortunately, to a lack of interest in judging, the debaters will be able to choose whichever style of voting they would prefer.

Round 1 will now commence

Pairings

Table 1: Tylergraham95 versus Ajab
Table 2: Whiteflame versus ClassicRobert

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Though these topics are what I would recommend for this round, it is by no means a requirement that the debaters choose one of them, or even something similar. They may debate a topic of their choice. I have compiled a list of possible resolutions, though, if any of them are interested or are looking for ideas.
JohnMaynardKeynes
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6/29/2014 11:02:33 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 11:00:15 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
My only problem is that the videos wont be voted on in debates.

They will be lol.
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6/29/2014 11:03:18 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 10:58:14 AM, XLAV wrote:
Who's going to film the debate?

The debaters will film their debates -- I think there's a "record" option on Google+ -- and upload them to Youtube.
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"The sight of my succulent backside acts as a sedative for the beholder. It soothes the pain of life and makes all which hurts seem like bliss. I urge all those stressed by ridiculous drama on DDO which will never affect your real life to gaze upon my cheeks for they will make you have an excitement and joy you've never felt before." -- Dr. Dennybug

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6/29/2014 11:13:47 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 11:04:33 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Rooting for TylerGraham

Gee thanks Wolff. -_-
#StandWithBossy
#Addison/Blade-of-Truth: I slapped a girl on the arse once with a piece of uncooked chicken, things got weird.
You threw it away, right? -Ajab
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Oh lord did you eat it?
...maybe!
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6/29/2014 11:16:40 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 11:13:47 AM, Ajab wrote:
At 6/29/2014 11:04:33 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Rooting for TylerGraham

Gee thanks Wolff. -_-

Don't worry Ajab, I'm rooting for you. :D
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6/29/2014 11:17:34 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 11:16:40 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 6/29/2014 11:13:47 AM, Ajab wrote:
At 6/29/2014 11:04:33 AM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Rooting for TylerGraham

Gee thanks Wolff. -_-

Don't worry Ajab, I'm rooting for you. :D

<3
#StandWithBossy
#Addison/Blade-of-Truth: I slapped a girl on the arse once with a piece of uncooked chicken, things got weird.
You threw it away, right? -Ajab
...
Oh lord did you eat it?
...maybe!
progressivedem22
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6/29/2014 11:19:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
One more thing: YYW and I signed up as judges, but we don't have enough for a full panel. If anyone wants to judge, please say so now. Otherwise, the four of them can decide whichever procedure of voting they'd prefer. I'll accept any judge nomination or vote on any debate sent to me.
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6/29/2014 11:25:57 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 11:19:14 AM, progressivedem22 wrote:
One more thing: YYW and I signed up as judges, but we don't have enough for a full panel. If anyone wants to judge, please say so now. Otherwise, the four of them can decide whichever procedure of voting they'd prefer. I'll accept any judge nomination or vote on any debate sent to me.

I'll do it.
Want to debate? Pick a topic and hit me up! - http://www.debate.org...
progressivedem22
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6/29/2014 11:33:19 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 11:25:57 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 6/29/2014 11:19:14 AM, progressivedem22 wrote:
One more thing: YYW and I signed up as judges, but we don't have enough for a full panel. If anyone wants to judge, please say so now. Otherwise, the four of them can decide whichever procedure of voting they'd prefer. I'll accept any judge nomination or vote on any debate sent to me.

I'll do it.

Awesome. Thanks.
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6/29/2014 12:18:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 11:19:14 AM, progressivedem22 wrote:
One more thing: YYW and I signed up as judges, but we don't have enough for a full panel. If anyone wants to judge, please say so now. Otherwise, the four of them can decide whichever procedure of voting they'd prefer. I'll accept any judge nomination or vote on any debate sent to me.

I'll judge if that's okay.
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6/29/2014 12:20:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 12:18:11 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/29/2014 11:19:14 AM, progressivedem22 wrote:
One more thing: YYW and I signed up as judges, but we don't have enough for a full panel. If anyone wants to judge, please say so now. Otherwise, the four of them can decide whichever procedure of voting they'd prefer. I'll accept any judge nomination or vote on any debate sent to me.

I'll judge if that's okay.

Great!

So our four judges are YYW, myself, Zaradi, and Wylted. Any others should feel free to sign up, but it looks as though we have enough for a panel.
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6/29/2014 1:41:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 12:20:05 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 12:18:11 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/29/2014 11:19:14 AM, progressivedem22 wrote:
One more thing: YYW and I signed up as judges, but we don't have enough for a full panel. If anyone wants to judge, please say so now. Otherwise, the four of them can decide whichever procedure of voting they'd prefer. I'll accept any judge nomination or vote on any debate sent to me.

I'll judge if that's okay.

Great!


So our four judges are YYW, myself, Zaradi, and Wylted. Any others should feel free to sign up, but it looks as though we have enough for a panel.

I can judge as well.
How about NO elections?

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6/29/2014 1:42:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 1:41:08 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/29/2014 12:20:05 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 12:18:11 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/29/2014 11:19:14 AM, progressivedem22 wrote:
One more thing: YYW and I signed up as judges, but we don't have enough for a full panel. If anyone wants to judge, please say so now. Otherwise, the four of them can decide whichever procedure of voting they'd prefer. I'll accept any judge nomination or vote on any debate sent to me.

I'll judge if that's okay.

Great!


So our four judges are YYW, myself, Zaradi, and Wylted. Any others should feel free to sign up, but it looks as though we have enough for a panel.

I can judge as well.

Perfect. I'll send the competitors an updated list of judges a bit later.
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6/29/2014 1:45:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 1:42:50 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:

Perfect. I'll send the competitors an updated list of judges a bit later.

I do disagree on how you set up round one of the debate. Given Tyler Graham and WhiteFlame are both strong policy debaters, and ClassicRobert/Ajab combo are supposedly good economists. Although the current match ups make it a liberal vs conservative debate on both sides.
How about NO elections?

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6/29/2014 1:54:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 1:45:09 PM, Cermank wrote:
When would this take place? Can we watch?

The round is about a week or so long. And sure. The four debaters are going to set up google hangouts, but you could ask them to post the links publicly so that we could have spectators.
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6/29/2014 1:55:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 1:45:24 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:42:50 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:

Perfect. I'll send the competitors an updated list of judges a bit later.

I do disagree on how you set up round one of the debate. Given Tyler Graham and WhiteFlame are both strong policy debaters, and ClassicRobert/Ajab combo are supposedly good economists. Although the current match ups make it a liberal vs conservative debate on both sides.

Round 1 was completely random, and they're all going to have to debate each other at some point, anyway, so it all gets sorted out.

Also, whiteflame and tyler are both liberal, if memory serves. Robert's a libertarian. I'm not sure where Ajab stands. But they're not necessarily going to debate policy or economics.
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6/29/2014 1:57:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 1:45:24 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:42:50 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:

Perfect. I'll send the competitors an updated list of judges a bit later.

I do disagree on how you set up round one of the debate. Given Tyler Graham and WhiteFlame are both strong policy debaters, and ClassicRobert/Ajab combo are supposedly good economists. Although the current match ups make it a liberal vs conservative debate on both sides.

Oh for some reason I thought tyler and whiteflame were matched up lol. Yes, if Ajab is conservative, it would be liberal vs conservative in every R1 debate. It's interesting how that happened, but I promise it wasn't planned.
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6/29/2014 1:57:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 1:55:46 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:45:24 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:42:50 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:

Perfect. I'll send the competitors an updated list of judges a bit later.

I do disagree on how you set up round one of the debate. Given Tyler Graham and WhiteFlame are both strong policy debaters, and ClassicRobert/Ajab combo are supposedly good economists. Although the current match ups make it a liberal vs conservative debate on both sides.

Round 1 was completely random, and they're all going to have to debate each other at some point, anyway, so it all gets sorted out.

Also, whiteflame and tyler are both liberal, if memory serves. Robert's a libertarian. I'm not sure where Ajab stands. But they're not necessarily going to debate policy or economics.

That's what I said. It's set up right now liberal vs conservative.
How about NO elections?

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6/29/2014 1:57:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 1:57:10 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:55:46 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:45:24 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:42:50 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:

Perfect. I'll send the competitors an updated list of judges a bit later.

I do disagree on how you set up round one of the debate. Given Tyler Graham and WhiteFlame are both strong policy debaters, and ClassicRobert/Ajab combo are supposedly good economists. Although the current match ups make it a liberal vs conservative debate on both sides.

Round 1 was completely random, and they're all going to have to debate each other at some point, anyway, so it all gets sorted out.

Also, whiteflame and tyler are both liberal, if memory serves. Robert's a libertarian. I'm not sure where Ajab stands. But they're not necessarily going to debate policy or economics.

That's what I said. It's set up right now liberal vs conservative.

That's temporary, I promise lol.
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6/29/2014 2:07:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 1:57:58 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:57:10 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:55:46 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:45:24 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:42:50 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:

Perfect. I'll send the competitors an updated list of judges a bit later.

I do disagree on how you set up round one of the debate. Given Tyler Graham and WhiteFlame are both strong policy debaters, and ClassicRobert/Ajab combo are supposedly good economists. Although the current match ups make it a liberal vs conservative debate on both sides.

Round 1 was completely random, and they're all going to have to debate each other at some point, anyway, so it all gets sorted out.

Also, whiteflame and tyler are both liberal, if memory serves. Robert's a libertarian. I'm not sure where Ajab stands. But they're not necessarily going to debate policy or economics.

That's what I said. It's set up right now liberal vs conservative.


That's temporary, I promise lol.

Looking at his big issue, I think he is probably liberal. Though, I can't determine an overarching political philosophy by looking at his big issues, because some things seem contradictory. It's there isn't a name for what he is.
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6/29/2014 4:07:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 4:06:17 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 4:05:47 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Bump

lol thanks.

If it saves you the indignity
How about NO elections?

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6/29/2014 4:34:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 4:07:00 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
At 6/29/2014 4:06:17 PM, progressivedem22 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 4:05:47 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
Bump

lol thanks.

If it saves you the indignity

I wouldn't say there's an "indignity" in bumping the thread. It's just something I prefer to do sparingly, if at all. At this point, there isn't exactly a need to bump the thread; the pairings are up and everyone has been notified by PM. The only thing this thread could offer, I suppose, is last-minute judge signups or videos/google+ links.
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6/29/2014 4:46:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Interesting... think you could've made this DURING the Stanley Cup...?

Anyway, seems cool.
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