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Volkov
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2/28/2010 5:02:11 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
To note, askbob committed fraud by claiming Logical-Master said something when he didn't. Vote askbob, and vote for a fraudster. One who is also juvenile and likes to compare pecs with another guy.
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2/28/2010 5:11:32 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Notice how Volkov never denies what he said?

That's right ladies and gentlemen, its because he said it.

After this sad and sickening incident occured I asked Volkov how I should take this

At 2/28/2010 4:50:10 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 2/28/2010 4:49:10 PM, collegekitchen3 wrote:
At 2/28/2010 4:47:17 PM, Volkov wrote:
Just whip it out and get it over with

Did you even read what you just typed?

I did. Take it as you will.

I myself am sorry to see Volkov's viewpoints on this and can only hope that it doesn't ruin his chances too much.
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2/28/2010 5:15:35 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/28/2010 5:11:32 PM, collegekitchen3 wrote:
Notice how Volkov never denies what he said?

That's right ladies and gentlemen, its because he said it.

Of course I did. Why would I deny it? People can clearly see it right in the forums. That's like asking "collegekitchen3" over there if he was askbob - he's not going to lie about it, he's already admitted as such that he is. This is stupidity.

What is really called into question here is why AskBob lied about what L-M said, in order to set up a quote in a way I never meant it. Is it because he knows he has no ammo to fire at his political opponents? Or is it because he's just a juvenile man who apparently has nothing better to do but sit on his arse, complain about Phil, yet keep coming back to the site. All the while comparing pecs with another guy, over the internet.
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2/28/2010 5:26:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/28/2010 5:15:35 PM, Volkov wrote:
What is really called into question here is why AskBob lied about what L-M said, in order to set up a quote in a way I never meant it.

And here we have it folks, plain and simple waffling. Saying I took his quote out of "context" when he explicitly told me too take it however I wanted without explaining his ludicrous common.

Unfortunately this is what you'll get with the Reform Party ticket. I've seen my fair share of political campaigns on DDO and I know you have too. Don't fall for the misquoting trick by the liberal media.

Vote Change in the upcoming DDO Election
Vote Askbob.
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2/28/2010 5:29:11 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/28/2010 5:15:35 PM, Volkov wrote:
he's just a juvenile man who apparently has nothing better to do but sit on his arse, complain about Phil, yet keep coming back to the site. All the while comparing pecs with another guy, over the internet.

And here we have mudslinging.

Again not a campaign tactic the Third Party ascribes to. We only report the facts.
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2/28/2010 6:06:15 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/28/2010 4:58:23 PM, collegekitchen3 wrote:
Turns out the "Reform Party" is antisex.

yes that's right.

Evidence: http://ddofans.com...

The Reform Party is Pro consensual and ethical sexual activities.
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2/28/2010 6:11:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/28/2010 6:06:15 PM, Lexicaholic wrote:
The Reform Party is Pro consensual and ethical sexual activities.

Does this mean that you are against "statutory rape" laws?
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2/28/2010 6:39:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/28/2010 6:11:09 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:06:15 PM, Lexicaholic wrote:
The Reform Party is Pro consensual and ethical sexual activities.

Does this mean that you are against "statutory rape" laws?

Statutory rape laws are generally state law issues, so I don't know if a consideration of them would apply to a Presidential election. I would argue that statutory rape laws ought to be adjusted to take into account the relative actual (rather than assumed) cognitive abilities of the parties involved in a charge of statutory rape; however, I think there should be some kind of presumption where the child is under the age of majority and the difference in age meets or exceeds five years. The 'unethical' behavior proscribed by statutory rape laws is basically seduction, taking advantage of a child's lack of knowledge, undeveloped emotional state, and unrefined desires for one's own advantage; however, it is always possible for the roles to be reversed, and to the extent that they are I would argue for a defense to the crime. I do not see anything wrong with statutory rape laws given a balancing of the harm they seek to prevent and the freedoms they restrict. I would argue that conviction for the crime ought to show the presence of harm to the protected class. I believe that the concerns of such laws would be best met by a rebuttable presumption that the harm did occur barring a showing that there was no such harm or harm to the alleged offender.
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2/28/2010 8:12:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/28/2010 5:26:09 PM, collegekitchen3 wrote:
And here we have it folks, plain and simple waffling. Saying I took his quote out of "context" when he explicitly told me too take it however I wanted without explaining his ludicrous common.

I meant that he should take it in context of the current discussion; not make up lies to claim I meant something when I didn't.

Unfortunately this is what you'll get with the Reform Party ticket. I've seen my fair share of political campaigns on DDO and I know you have too. Don't fall for the misquoting trick by the liberal media.

You've seen zero campaigns on DDO.

Vote Change in the upcoming DDO Election
Vote Askbob.

Your kind of change offers only this sort of stupidity. Not the kind of "change" we need.
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2/28/2010 10:59:36 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/28/2010 6:11:09 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:06:15 PM, Lexicaholic wrote:
The Reform Party is Pro consensual and ethical sexual activities.

Does this mean that you are against "statutory rape" laws?

R_R made clear that he is against stat rap laws. He is fine with 8 year old children having sex with adults. Both are willing, right? He made his position on the matter very clear.
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3/1/2010 11:48:47 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/28/2010 10:59:36 PM, sherlockmethod wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:11:09 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:06:15 PM, Lexicaholic wrote:
The Reform Party is Pro consensual and ethical sexual activities.

Does this mean that you are against "statutory rape" laws?

R_R made clear that he is against stat rap laws. He is fine with 8 year old children having sex with adults. Both are willing, right? He made his position on the matter very clear.

That's disgusting. Don't vote for the liberty party! They're pro-pedophilia!
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3/1/2010 1:17:58 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/1/2010 11:48:47 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
That's disgusting. Don't vote for the liberty party! They're pro-pedophilia!

Careful Insert. Harper was thwarted from a win in 2004 by accusing the Liberals and NDP of support child pornography.
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3/1/2010 1:46:01 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/28/2010 11:02:14 PM, wjmelements wrote:
The Liberty Party is PRO Sex for Debate.Org.

The VP nominee for the Liberty Party wants to have sex with Debate.org?
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3/1/2010 1:49:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/1/2010 11:48:47 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 2/28/2010 10:59:36 PM, sherlockmethod wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:11:09 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:06:15 PM, Lexicaholic wrote:
The Reform Party is Pro consensual and ethical sexual activities.

Does this mean that you are against "statutory rape" laws?

R_R made clear that he is against stat rap laws. He is fine with 8 year old children having sex with adults. Both are willing, right? He made his position on the matter very clear.

That's disgusting. Don't vote for the liberty party! They're pro-pedophilia!

Tell Muhammad and Aisha I said hi.
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3/1/2010 5:09:56 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/1/2010 1:49:09 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 3/1/2010 11:48:47 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 2/28/2010 10:59:36 PM, sherlockmethod wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:11:09 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:06:15 PM, Lexicaholic wrote:
The Reform Party is Pro consensual and ethical sexual activities.

Does this mean that you are against "statutory rape" laws?

R_R made clear that he is against stat rap laws. He is fine with 8 year old children having sex with adults. Both are willing, right? He made his position on the matter very clear.

That's disgusting. Don't vote for the liberty party! They're pro-pedophilia!

Tell Muhammad and Aisha I said hi.

Lol, don't even get me started on the whole muhammad/aisha thing...
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3/1/2010 9:28:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/1/2010 5:09:56 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/1/2010 1:49:09 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 3/1/2010 11:48:47 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 2/28/2010 10:59:36 PM, sherlockmethod wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:11:09 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:06:15 PM, Lexicaholic wrote:
The Reform Party is Pro consensual and ethical sexual activities.

Does this mean that you are against "statutory rape" laws?

R_R made clear that he is against stat rap laws. He is fine with 8 year old children having sex with adults. Both are willing, right? He made his position on the matter very clear.

That's disgusting. Don't vote for the liberty party! They're pro-pedophilia!

Tell Muhammad and Aisha I said hi.

Lol, don't even get me started on the whole muhammad/aisha thing...

Why would I bring it up if I didn't want to?

Don't be muslim, but if you're gonna be a muslim, be happy for your prophet dammit, there's no point otherwise.
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3/1/2010 9:33:28 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/1/2010 9:28:47 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 3/1/2010 5:09:56 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/1/2010 1:49:09 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 3/1/2010 11:48:47 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 2/28/2010 10:59:36 PM, sherlockmethod wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:11:09 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:06:15 PM, Lexicaholic wrote:
The Reform Party is Pro consensual and ethical sexual activities.

Does this mean that you are against "statutory rape" laws?

R_R made clear that he is against stat rap laws. He is fine with 8 year old children having sex with adults. Both are willing, right? He made his position on the matter very clear.

That's disgusting. Don't vote for the liberty party! They're pro-pedophilia!

Tell Muhammad and Aisha I said hi.

Lol, don't even get me started on the whole muhammad/aisha thing...

Why would I bring it up if I didn't want to?

Don't be muslim, but if you're gonna be a muslim, be happy for your prophet dammit, there's no point otherwise.

I more meant along the lines of don't get me started in arguing with you about that common slander against islam, but ok. Also, why wouldn't I be happy for my prophet?
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3/1/2010 9:38:07 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/1/2010 9:33:28 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/1/2010 9:28:47 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 3/1/2010 5:09:56 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/1/2010 1:49:09 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 3/1/2010 11:48:47 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 2/28/2010 10:59:36 PM, sherlockmethod wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:11:09 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:06:15 PM, Lexicaholic wrote:
The Reform Party is Pro consensual and ethical sexual activities.

Does this mean that you are against "statutory rape" laws?

R_R made clear that he is against stat rap laws. He is fine with 8 year old children having sex with adults. Both are willing, right? He made his position on the matter very clear.

That's disgusting. Don't vote for the liberty party! They're pro-pedophilia!

Tell Muhammad and Aisha I said hi.

Lol, don't even get me started on the whole muhammad/aisha thing...

Why would I bring it up if I didn't want to?

Don't be muslim, but if you're gonna be a muslim, be happy for your prophet dammit, there's no point otherwise.

I more meant along the lines of don't get me started in arguing with you about that common slander against islam
Slander?
I figure Islam's position on getting action to be one of the few redeeming points.

And in order for it to be slander it has to be false, where are you getting this idea? I thought I heard you admitting the veracity of the union before.

but ok. Also, why wouldn't I be happy for my prophet?
Because he slept with a nine year old, which you think should be illegal and find disgusting? (I find it icky too, but I also find it none of my business and better than being a prude).
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3/1/2010 9:41:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Btw, slander also tends to be, not only false, but deliberate falsehood created with a view to harm, which is not the case. If it was made up at all, which I doubt, it was made up to defend Aisha's reputation as a virgin before marriage from the Shia's (who don't like her).
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3/1/2010 9:41:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/1/2010 9:38:07 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 3/1/2010 9:33:28 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/1/2010 9:28:47 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 3/1/2010 5:09:56 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/1/2010 1:49:09 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 3/1/2010 11:48:47 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 2/28/2010 10:59:36 PM, sherlockmethod wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:11:09 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 2/28/2010 6:06:15 PM, Lexicaholic wrote:
The Reform Party is Pro consensual and ethical sexual activities.

Does this mean that you are against "statutory rape" laws?

R_R made clear that he is against stat rap laws. He is fine with 8 year old children having sex with adults. Both are willing, right? He made his position on the matter very clear.

That's disgusting. Don't vote for the liberty party! They're pro-pedophilia!

Tell Muhammad and Aisha I said hi.

Lol, don't even get me started on the whole muhammad/aisha thing...

Why would I bring it up if I didn't want to?

Don't be muslim, but if you're gonna be a muslim, be happy for your prophet dammit, there's no point otherwise.

I more meant along the lines of don't get me started in arguing with you about that common slander against islam
Slander?
I figure Islam's position on getting action to be one of the few redeeming points.

And in order for it to be slander it has to be false, where are you getting this idea? I thought I heard you admitting the veracity of the union before.


but ok. Also, why wouldn't I be happy for my prophet?
Because he slept with a nine year old, which you think should be illegal and find disgusting? (I find it icky too, but I also find it none of my business and better than being a prude).

*sigh* I just knew you would start... Note: things were different culturally 1400 years ago than they are now.
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3/1/2010 9:46:35 PM
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*sigh* I just knew you would start... Note: things were different culturally 1400 years ago than they are now.
Being a cultural relativist is bad enough.

Being someone who believes God handed down absolute laws of morality in the form of religion centuries ago that should still be followed today AND being a cultural relativist is just plain contradictory. It's one thing to evaluate, say, a secular historical figure like Napoleon by "he was better than the other guys who would have ruled at the time" (which still doesn't justly defend the bad things he did do, even if it provokes a certain sympathy), it's quite another to say about someone inspired by an omniscient being "Everyone else did it, he didn't know any better, never mind that Allah guy and the fact that I believe every word he said."
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3/1/2010 9:49:57 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/1/2010 9:46:35 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
*sigh* I just knew you would start... Note: things were different culturally 1400 years ago than they are now.
Being a cultural relativist is bad enough.

Being someone who believes God handed down absolute laws of morality in the form of religion centuries ago that should still be followed today AND being a cultural relativist is just plain contradictory. It's one thing to evaluate, say, a secular historical figure like Napoleon by "he was better than the other guys who would have ruled at the time" (which still doesn't justly defend the bad things he did do, even if it provokes a certain sympathy), it's quite another to say about someone inspired by an omniscient being "Everyone else did it, he didn't know any better, never mind that Allah guy and the fact that I believe every word he said."

I don't see how that's contradictory. Even a prophet isn't expected to be "perfect".
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3/1/2010 9:53:43 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/1/2010 9:49:57 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/1/2010 9:46:35 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
*sigh* I just knew you would start... Note: things were different culturally 1400 years ago than they are now.
Being a cultural relativist is bad enough.

Being someone who believes God handed down absolute laws of morality in the form of religion centuries ago that should still be followed today AND being a cultural relativist is just plain contradictory. It's one thing to evaluate, say, a secular historical figure like Napoleon by "he was better than the other guys who would have ruled at the time" (which still doesn't justly defend the bad things he did do, even if it provokes a certain sympathy), it's quite another to say about someone inspired by an omniscient being "Everyone else did it, he didn't know any better, never mind that Allah guy and the fact that I believe every word he said."

I don't see how that's contradictory. Even a prophet isn't expected to be "perfect".
He didn't know any better.

I believe every word that he said.

I simultaneously have full confidence and do not have full confidence in his knowledge.

There's the contradiction.

And yes, a prophet should be expected to be essentially perfect, if not in thought then in deed. Especially on a big issue like "Hey god. Is pedophilia okay or not? Kthnxplz cause you put a fine *** on that there Aisha."
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3/1/2010 9:57:58 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/1/2010 9:53:43 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 3/1/2010 9:49:57 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/1/2010 9:46:35 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
*sigh* I just knew you would start... Note: things were different culturally 1400 years ago than they are now.
Being a cultural relativist is bad enough.

Being someone who believes God handed down absolute laws of morality in the form of religion centuries ago that should still be followed today AND being a cultural relativist is just plain contradictory. It's one thing to evaluate, say, a secular historical figure like Napoleon by "he was better than the other guys who would have ruled at the time" (which still doesn't justly defend the bad things he did do, even if it provokes a certain sympathy), it's quite another to say about someone inspired by an omniscient being "Everyone else did it, he didn't know any better, never mind that Allah guy and the fact that I believe every word he said."

I don't see how that's contradictory. Even a prophet isn't expected to be "perfect".
He didn't know any better.

I believe every word that he said.

I simultaneously have full confidence and do not have full confidence in his knowledge.

There's the contradiction.

And yes, a prophet should be expected to be essentially perfect, if not in thought then in deed. Especially on a big issue like "Hey god. Is pedophilia okay or not? Kthnxplz cause you put a fine *** on that there Aisha."

Like I said, it was culturally permissible at the time. There were many other young girls sleeping with older men. However, it doesn't make it ok by today's standards. That's like saying wife beating is ok because they "did it in the past".
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3/1/2010 10:02:16 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/1/2010 9:57:58 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Like I said, it was culturally permissible at the time.

Just because something is culturally permissible does not mean that it is morally permissible.

There were many other young girls sleeping with older men. However, it doesn't make it ok by today's standards. That's like saying wife beating is ok because they "did it in the past".

Or you could hold the more consistent view that what is wrong is wrong regardless of what others at the time may consider acceptable.
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3/1/2010 10:04:45 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/1/2010 10:02:16 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 3/1/2010 9:57:58 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Like I said, it was culturally permissible at the time.

Just because something is culturally permissible does not mean that it is morally permissible.

There were many other young girls sleeping with older men. However, it doesn't make it ok by today's standards. That's like saying wife beating is ok because they "did it in the past".

Or you could hold the more consistent view that what is wrong is wrong regardless of what others at the time may consider acceptable.

But back then people didn't think it was wrong. Attitudes towards different things change as time progresses. Homosexuality is a good example of that.