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Scott_Mann
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3/20/2010 6:42:53 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I've been thinking that perhaps Third Way should be listed as an ideology for profiles? That is, if it actually can be identified as an ideology. Just a suggestion.

Yes, I am aware of the 'Other' selection.
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3/20/2010 10:06:29 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
*Labour and Fascism as ideologies

International Parties should be added too, but I'd rather there be no Party option on the profile.
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3/20/2010 11:04:57 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/20/2010 10:05:24 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Right after they add the Labor Party and fascism as ideologies.

Yea, I'm surprised they don't already have fascism, considering they have communism listed.
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3/20/2010 11:06:20 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/20/2010 11:04:57 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/20/2010 10:05:24 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Right after they add the Labor Party and fascism as ideologies.

Yea, I'm surprised they don't already have fascism, considering they have communism listed.

And American Nazi Party. I'm just surprised that all these option are listed, but Third Way is not.
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3/20/2010 11:06:48 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/20/2010 11:04:57 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/20/2010 10:05:24 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Right after they add the Labor Party and fascism as ideologies.

Yea, I'm surprised they don't already have fascism, considering they have communism listed.

It's probably because fascism has a label so harshly stigmatized, even communism is unable to hold a candle to it.
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3/20/2010 11:08:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/20/2010 11:06:48 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 3/20/2010 11:04:57 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/20/2010 10:05:24 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Right after they add the Labor Party and fascism as ideologies.

Yea, I'm surprised they don't already have fascism, considering they have communism listed.

It's probably because fascism has a label so harshly stigmatized, even communism is unable to hold a candle to it.

But fascism isn't even all bad, lol. I do see some advantages to a fascist system.
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3/20/2010 11:09:30 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/20/2010 11:08:13 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/20/2010 11:06:48 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 3/20/2010 11:04:57 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/20/2010 10:05:24 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Right after they add the Labor Party and fascism as ideologies.

Yea, I'm surprised they don't already have fascism, considering they have communism listed.

It's probably because fascism has a label so harshly stigmatized, even communism is unable to hold a candle to it.

But fascism isn't even all bad, lol. I do see some advantages to a fascist system.

Well, I have Polish blood, so.

Just throwing that out there. >_>
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3/20/2010 11:10:43 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/20/2010 11:09:30 PM, Scott_Mann wrote:
At 3/20/2010 11:08:13 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/20/2010 11:06:48 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 3/20/2010 11:04:57 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/20/2010 10:05:24 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Right after they add the Labor Party and fascism as ideologies.

Yea, I'm surprised they don't already have fascism, considering they have communism listed.

It's probably because fascism has a label so harshly stigmatized, even communism is unable to hold a candle to it.

But fascism isn't even all bad, lol. I do see some advantages to a fascist system.

Well, I have Polish blood, so.

Just throwing that out there. >_>

Don't be getting any ideas, lol. I'm not fascist although I am slightly on the authoritarian side.
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3/20/2010 11:14:38 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/20/2010 11:08:13 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/20/2010 11:06:48 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 3/20/2010 11:04:57 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/20/2010 10:05:24 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Right after they add the Labor Party and fascism as ideologies.

Yea, I'm surprised they don't already have fascism, considering they have communism listed.

It's probably because fascism has a label so harshly stigmatized, even communism is unable to hold a candle to it.

But fascism isn't even all bad, lol. I do see some advantages to a fascist system.

Every system has its advantages. In its heyday, fascism actually seemed to work rather well - at least, in terms of efficiency.
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3/21/2010 12:03:09 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Maybe populism should be another ideology listed.

...I know I'm probably getting carried away with this, now.
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3/21/2010 10:14:24 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Scott. Why don't you do yourself a favor and change your ideology from conservative to moderate or liberal. Because you're not conservative by any stretch of the imagination.
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3/21/2010 10:23:19 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
http://www.debate.org...

I see you failed all your political quizzes ; )

At 3/21/2010 10:14:24 AM, Nags wrote:
Scott. Why don't you do yourself a favor and change your ideology from conservative to moderate or liberal. Because you're not conservative by any stretch of the imagination.

Agreed.
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3/21/2010 1:01:02 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 10:14:24 AM, Nags wrote:
Scott. Why don't you do yourself a favor and change your ideology from conservative to moderate or liberal. Because you're not conservative by any stretch of the imagination.

Progressive.
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3/21/2010 1:02:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 10:23:19 AM, J.Kenyon wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

I see you failed all your political quizzes ; )


How does one "fail" a political quiz?
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3/21/2010 1:11:36 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 1:01:02 PM, Scott_Mann wrote:
Progressive.

Do you have any idea how different conservative and progressive is? And Third Way isn't progressive at all.

At 3/21/2010 1:02:00 PM, Scott_Mann wrote:
How does one "fail" a political quiz?

You said you were conservative, yet your quizzes showed you being liberal.
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3/21/2010 2:13:02 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/20/2010 11:14:38 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 3/20/2010 11:08:13 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/20/2010 11:06:48 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 3/20/2010 11:04:57 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/20/2010 10:05:24 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Right after they add the Labor Party and fascism as ideologies.

Yea, I'm surprised they don't already have fascism, considering they have communism listed.

It's probably because fascism has a label so harshly stigmatized, even communism is unable to hold a candle to it.

But fascism isn't even all bad, lol. I do see some advantages to a fascist system.

Every system has its advantages. In its heyday, fascism actually seemed to work rather well - at least, in terms of efficiency.

Yea, which is why I sometimes have trouble labelling myself. I just put socialist since that's what I am economically, but with everything else it's not so easy... I hold some views that are often condemned by other socialists.
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3/21/2010 2:34:57 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 2:13:02 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I hold some views that are often condemned by other socialists.

Like what?
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3/21/2010 2:38:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 2:34:57 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:13:02 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I hold some views that are often condemned by other socialists.

Like what?

Well for starters, I'm religious. That certainly puts me at odds with socialists on issues such as sexual freedom.
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3/21/2010 2:50:07 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 2:38:59 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:34:57 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:13:02 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I hold some views that are often condemned by other socialists.

Like what?

Well for starters, I'm religious. That certainly puts me at odds with socialists on issues such as sexual freedom.

Well, it's not like you advocate that the federal government limit sexual freedom.

For example, on your BIG ISSUES, you have under abortion: "It's a woman's body so she should have control over it. Although personally I would probably never want an abortion, my own opinion shouldn't stop others who want abortions."

Socialists can choose not to exercise all their freedoms. As long as they don't apply force against others' social freedoms, you're still good-to-go in the eyes of most socialists.
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3/21/2010 2:53:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 2:50:07 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:38:59 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:34:57 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:13:02 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I hold some views that are often condemned by other socialists.

Like what?

Well for starters, I'm religious. That certainly puts me at odds with socialists on issues such as sexual freedom.

Well, it's not like you advocate that the federal government limit sexual freedom.

For example, on your BIG ISSUES, you have under abortion: "It's a woman's body so she should have control over it. Although personally I would probably never want an abortion, my own opinion shouldn't stop others who want abortions."

Socialists can choose not to exercise all their freedoms. As long as they don't apply force against others' social freedoms, you're still good-to-go in the eyes of most socialists.

Well yea, for the abortion issue although I'm personally opposed to it(except in cases of rape and incest) I don't want to deny others their right to get abortions.
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3/21/2010 2:58:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 2:53:37 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:50:07 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:38:59 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:34:57 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:13:02 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I hold some views that are often condemned by other socialists.

Like what?

Well for starters, I'm religious. That certainly puts me at odds with socialists on issues such as sexual freedom.

Well, it's not like you advocate that the federal government limit sexual freedom.

For example, on your BIG ISSUES, you have under abortion: "It's a woman's body so she should have control over it. Although personally I would probably never want an abortion, my own opinion shouldn't stop others who want abortions."

Socialists can choose not to exercise all their freedoms. As long as they don't apply force against others' social freedoms, you're still good-to-go in the eyes of most socialists.

Well yea, for the abortion issue although I'm personally opposed to it(except in cases of rape and incest) I don't want to deny others their right to get abortions.

?

I don't think I've ever met a socialist who is pro-abortion. For that matter, I don't think I've even met a pro-abortion liberal.

The position is that while abortion is wrong, it should ultimately be the mother's choice.
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3/21/2010 3:01:32 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 2:58:37 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:53:37 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:50:07 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:38:59 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:34:57 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:13:02 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I hold some views that are often condemned by other socialists.

Like what?

Well for starters, I'm religious. That certainly puts me at odds with socialists on issues such as sexual freedom.

Well, it's not like you advocate that the federal government limit sexual freedom.

For example, on your BIG ISSUES, you have under abortion: "It's a woman's body so she should have control over it. Although personally I would probably never want an abortion, my own opinion shouldn't stop others who want abortions."

Socialists can choose not to exercise all their freedoms. As long as they don't apply force against others' social freedoms, you're still good-to-go in the eyes of most socialists.

Well yea, for the abortion issue although I'm personally opposed to it(except in cases of rape and incest) I don't want to deny others their right to get abortions.

?

I don't think I've ever met a socialist who is pro-abortion. For that matter, I don't think I've even met a pro-abortion liberal.

The position is that while abortion is wrong, it should ultimately be the mother's choice.

Yea, pretty much. It is the mother's choice.
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3/21/2010 3:10:17 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 3:01:32 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:58:37 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:53:37 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:50:07 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:38:59 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:34:57 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:13:02 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I hold some views that are often condemned by other socialists.

Like what?

Well for starters, I'm religious. That certainly puts me at odds with socialists on issues such as sexual freedom.

Well, it's not like you advocate that the federal government limit sexual freedom.

For example, on your BIG ISSUES, you have under abortion: "It's a woman's body so she should have control over it. Although personally I would probably never want an abortion, my own opinion shouldn't stop others who want abortions."

Socialists can choose not to exercise all their freedoms. As long as they don't apply force against others' social freedoms, you're still good-to-go in the eyes of most socialists.

Well yea, for the abortion issue although I'm personally opposed to it(except in cases of rape and incest) I don't want to deny others their right to get abortions.

?

I don't think I've ever met a socialist who is pro-abortion. For that matter, I don't think I've even met a pro-abortion liberal.

The position is that while abortion is wrong, it should ultimately be the mother's choice.

Yea, pretty much. It is the mother's choice.

So, like, what views do you hold that are condemned by most other socialists?
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3/21/2010 3:10:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
There's no such thing as pro-abortion. That's why the label should really say pro-legal abortion, or pro-reproductive rights. The first one is probably less biased, though.

Sorry, I know I'm somewhat of a nitpicker.
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3/21/2010 3:12:25 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 3:10:17 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 3:01:32 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:58:37 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:53:37 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:50:07 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:38:59 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:34:57 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:13:02 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I hold some views that are often condemned by other socialists.

Like what?

Well for starters, I'm religious. That certainly puts me at odds with socialists on issues such as sexual freedom.

Well, it's not like you advocate that the federal government limit sexual freedom.

For example, on your BIG ISSUES, you have under abortion: "It's a woman's body so she should have control over it. Although personally I would probably never want an abortion, my own opinion shouldn't stop others who want abortions."

Socialists can choose not to exercise all their freedoms. As long as they don't apply force against others' social freedoms, you're still good-to-go in the eyes of most socialists.

Well yea, for the abortion issue although I'm personally opposed to it(except in cases of rape and incest) I don't want to deny others their right to get abortions.

?

I don't think I've ever met a socialist who is pro-abortion. For that matter, I don't think I've even met a pro-abortion liberal.

The position is that while abortion is wrong, it should ultimately be the mother's choice.

Yea, pretty much. It is the mother's choice.

So, like, what views do you hold that are condemned by most other socialists?

Well for one, I'm anti-porn.
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3/21/2010 3:15:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 3:12:25 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 3:10:17 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 3:01:32 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:58:37 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:53:37 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:50:07 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:38:59 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:34:57 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:13:02 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I hold some views that are often condemned by other socialists.

Like what?

Well for starters, I'm religious. That certainly puts me at odds with socialists on issues such as sexual freedom.

Well, it's not like you advocate that the federal government limit sexual freedom.

For example, on your BIG ISSUES, you have under abortion: "It's a woman's body so she should have control over it. Although personally I would probably never want an abortion, my own opinion shouldn't stop others who want abortions."

Socialists can choose not to exercise all their freedoms. As long as they don't apply force against others' social freedoms, you're still good-to-go in the eyes of most socialists.

Well yea, for the abortion issue although I'm personally opposed to it(except in cases of rape and incest) I don't want to deny others their right to get abortions.

?

I don't think I've ever met a socialist who is pro-abortion. For that matter, I don't think I've even met a pro-abortion liberal.

The position is that while abortion is wrong, it should ultimately be the mother's choice.

Yea, pretty much. It is the mother's choice.

So, like, what views do you hold that are condemned by most other socialists?

Well for one, I'm anti-porn.

Do you mean "anti-pr0n" as in "I am morally opposed to pr0n" or as in "I believe the federal government should regulate and censor pr0n as a social and moral issue"?
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3/21/2010 3:16:36 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 3:15:00 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 3:12:25 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 3:10:17 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 3:01:32 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:58:37 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:53:37 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:50:07 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:38:59 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:34:57 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 2:13:02 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I hold some views that are often condemned by other socialists.

Like what?

Well for starters, I'm religious. That certainly puts me at odds with socialists on issues such as sexual freedom.

Well, it's not like you advocate that the federal government limit sexual freedom.

For example, on your BIG ISSUES, you have under abortion: "It's a woman's body so she should have control over it. Although personally I would probably never want an abortion, my own opinion shouldn't stop others who want abortions."

Socialists can choose not to exercise all their freedoms. As long as they don't apply force against others' social freedoms, you're still good-to-go in the eyes of most socialists.

Well yea, for the abortion issue although I'm personally opposed to it(except in cases of rape and incest) I don't want to deny others their right to get abortions.

?

I don't think I've ever met a socialist who is pro-abortion. For that matter, I don't think I've even met a pro-abortion liberal.

The position is that while abortion is wrong, it should ultimately be the mother's choice.

Yea, pretty much. It is the mother's choice.

So, like, what views do you hold that are condemned by most other socialists?

Well for one, I'm anti-porn.

Do you mean "anti-pr0n" as in "I am morally opposed to pr0n" or as in "I believe the federal government should regulate and censor pr0n as a social and moral issue"?

Mor along the lines that it should either be banned or strictly regulated/censored.
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3/21/2010 3:21:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 3:16:36 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 3:15:00 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 3/21/2010 3:12:25 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/21/2010 3:10:17 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
So, like, what views do you hold that are condemned by most other socialists?

Well for one, I'm anti-porn.

Do you mean "anti-pr0n" as in "I am morally opposed to pr0n" or as in "I believe the federal government should regulate and censor pr0n as a social and moral issue"?

Mor along the lines that it should either be banned or strictly regulated/censored.

Woah, that certainly isn't socialist.

On what grounds do you base your position of banning pr0n? I mean, I know you're religious. But why on the issue of abortion does social freedom supersede your personal moral code, but not on the issue of pr0n?
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