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Wylted
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10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.
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10/4/2014 7:42:21 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 7:37:06 AM, Raisor wrote:
I am committing myself to voting on this.

Thanks I appreciate that.
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10/4/2014 7:51:03 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I should also note that I won't accept any partner who is under 18 years old. I don't like the implications of accepting a partner younger than that.
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10/4/2014 7:51:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 7:42:44 AM, XLAV wrote:
Somebody is gonna whine any second now.

To be fair to the whiners the rape battle wasn't an actual debate.
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10/4/2014 8:05:19 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 7:57:46 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 10/4/2014 7:51:54 AM, Wylted wrote:

Can I have a spot with the judge people?

Right now there is a lot of bias I'm up against but I can see there is a lot of interest in this debate. I don't want to kill interest by overly limiting who can judge.

I'd rather lose than kill interest, so setting the ELO to 2500 is something I may try to do, which means you'll fit the criteria.

I can tell you that, the arguments won't be easy to judge and I don't want anybody voting who isn't giving there vote a lot of thought. Judging based on a gut feeling is just wrong and the people that do that are the same people who leave 500 character RFD's on debates such as the one that BSH1 and Whiteflame just finished.

I don't want to limit judging as much as I want to limit people who give RFDs that show they didn't put much thought into deciding the winner.

I know that I'm putting up a good fight in this upcoming debate, and my opponent's are impossible to completely destroy, so I want the fact that the debaters put in a lot of effort to be respected.
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10/4/2014 8:15:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.

I might be interested! This seems like a fun topic. I'd like to do a bit of research before deciding though because I can't think of a single Pro argument for child porn. Can you send me a PM telling me how you plan to approach this debate?
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10/4/2014 8:19:08 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.

Tell me how a team debate works and what is the resolution specifically.
Can I just give my insight and have you type up the report?
My work here is, finally, done.
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10/4/2014 8:30:15 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Wylted & Khaos vs Blue & Mikal ... interesting
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10/4/2014 8:33:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 8:19:08 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.

Tell me how a team debate works and what is the resolution specifically.
Can I just give my insight and have you type up the report?

http://www.debate.org...
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10/4/2014 8:38:20 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 8:33:00 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 10/4/2014 8:19:08 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.

Tell me how a team debate works and what is the resolution specifically.
Can I just give my insight and have you type up the report?

http://www.debate.org...

Thanks, I'm still in, if I can just help Wylted from the back.
As you know, I tend to be a bit crazy and incoherent, which is why I shy away from debates.
My work here is, finally, done.
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10/4/2014 8:51:25 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.
Can I?...
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TUF, and YYW
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10/4/2014 9:23:02 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.

I think that in framing the issue only as seeking one who is in favor of child porn, you're likely to (1) not get many responses, and (2) only get responses from people who would like child porn legalized for personal reasons.

That may not be the case, but there are nuanced arguments in favor of legalized child porn from a first amendment perspective as a utilitarian one. I'm not saying that I personally support or oppose them, but the issue is complicated -which I think you appreciate.

It may be beneficial to draw a distinction here between "legalizing the possession of" and "legalizing the creation and possession of" the subject of your debate. I think you're only advocating for the former, or, at least I hope you're only advocating for the former -and clarifying that as well is probably going to be to your advantage.

That said, this is probably the 'single' most controversial debate DDO will ever see. While in some cases there's merit to bluntness, clarifying the nuances of your position is probably going to help you find an acceptable team mate more effectively than stating only generally that you seek a partner who is pro child porn.
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10/4/2014 10:34:39 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 7:51:03 AM, Wylted wrote:
I should also note that I won't accept any partner who is under 18 years old. I don't like the implications of accepting a partner younger than that.

Why?
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10/4/2014 10:44:05 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.

...Legalization of child porn. Honestly, I do not believe you would be able to find a partner on this that is high respected. There is the argument of "freedom" and there's probably something in the Constitution, but in the end, you'd pretty much make pedophiles get a "scoot free" card and I do not know who wants that.
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10/4/2014 10:45:05 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
But, you're an absolutely epic debater, and you have changed my mind in the past. I will be watching this!
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10/4/2014 11:22:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 8:19:08 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.

Tell me how a team debate works and what is the resolution specifically.
Can I just give my insight and have you type up the report?

I'll have to ask somebody with more experience how a team debate works but I think it would be unique situations each time depending on the team. I'll discuss the full resolution a little later.
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10/4/2014 11:22:51 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 8:15:56 AM, Defro wrote:
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.

I might be interested! This seems like a fun topic. I'd like to do a bit of research before deciding though because I can't think of a single Pro argument for child porn. Can you send me a PM telling me how you plan to approach this debate?

No problem. I'll send you and khaos a PM discussing it.
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10/4/2014 11:24:25 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 11:22:01 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 10/4/2014 8:19:08 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.

Tell me how a team debate works and what is the resolution specifically.
Can I just give my insight and have you type up the report?

I'll have to ask somebody with more experience how a team debate works but I think it would be unique situations each time depending on the team. I'll discuss the full resolution a little later.

Sure.
I saw the debate and know your argument (I assume).
I just don't have the ability/motivation to organize my thoughts within 3 days, which is why I don't debate.
I'll still help from the sidelines if you wish.
My work here is, finally, done.
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10/4/2014 11:26:19 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 11:24:25 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 10/4/2014 11:22:01 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 10/4/2014 8:19:08 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.

Tell me how a team debate works and what is the resolution specifically.
Can I just give my insight and have you type up the report?

I'll have to ask somebody with more experience how a team debate works but I think it would be unique situations each time depending on the team. I'll discuss the full resolution a little later.

Sure.
I saw the debate and know your argument (I assume).
I just don't have the ability/motivation to organize my thoughts within 3 days, which is why I don't debate.
I'll still help from the sidelines if you wish.

The debate may be a good 7-10 days away. I'll contact people interested let them know my arguments and see if the are willing and able to contribute.
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10/4/2014 11:27:04 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 8:51:25 AM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.
Can I?...

PM me a link to your best debate.
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10/4/2014 11:34:39 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 9:23:02 AM, YYW wrote:
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.

I think that in framing the issue only as seeking one who is in favor of child porn, you're likely to (1) not get many responses, and (2) only get responses from people who would like child porn legalized for personal reasons.

That may not be the case, but there are nuanced arguments in favor of legalized child porn from a first amendment perspective as a utilitarian one. I'm not saying that I personally support or oppose them, but the issue is complicated -which I think you appreciate.

It may be beneficial to draw a distinction here between "legalizing the possession of" and "legalizing the creation and possession of" the subject of your debate. I think you're only advocating for the former, or, at least I hope you're only advocating for the former -and clarifying that as well is probably going to be to your advantage.

That said, this is probably the 'single' most controversial debate DDO will ever see. While in some cases there's merit to bluntness, clarifying the nuances of your position is probably going to help you find an acceptable team mate more effectively than stating only generally that you seek a partner who is pro child porn.

Thanks for the advice. Anybody mildly interested in teaming up will see the debate's framing and my arguments. Before I send out the challenge I will completely edit round 1 to entirely show what exactly I'm advocating for. I just don't want to share the framework too early. I'm assuming people are Con child porn would be Con no matter the way it's legalized.

You know I get the occasional debate I'm extremely interested in hyping like flat Earth and if I share the frame work too early I think the comments will be about the issue and I want the comments focused on different things. I don't want the pro's and Con's of what I'm advocating discussed in the comments. There is no way to avoid it but I'd like to wait until the debate starts before random people start making arguments in the comment section.
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10/4/2014 11:38:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 10:34:39 AM, TheGreatAndPowerful wrote:
At 10/4/2014 7:51:03 AM, Wylted wrote:
I should also note that I won't accept any partner who is under 18 years old. I don't like the implications of accepting a partner younger than that.

Why?

1. I'm concerned about the mental health of any child that is pro child porn.

2. People under 18 are rarely good at debating.

3. It's generally a good ideal to distance yourself from minors while advocating for something that sexually exploits children.
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10/4/2014 11:40:31 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 10:44:05 AM, dtaylor971 wrote:
At 10/4/2014 7:30:51 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm planning on having a team debate where I'm pro child porn (currently in challenge period), against Mikal and Bluesteel. If there are any advocates for the legalization of child porn on this site let me know so we can..... get it on but not in that way. I'm a grown up.

This is also not a troll debate. This is a serious policy debate, that deserves to be treated as such. If you can't treat the topic seriously than don't even bother contacting me to partner up.

...Legalization of child porn. Honestly, I do not believe you would be able to find a partner on this that is high respected. There is the argument of "freedom" and there's probably something in the Constitution, but in the end, you'd pretty much make pedophiles get a "scoot free" card and I do not know who wants that.

It would be hard to find a partner that is of my opponent's caliber, but I'm confident in my arguments are good and hopefully I find a partner that can bring a lot of what I'm deficient in to the table.
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10/4/2014 11:41:18 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 10:45:05 AM, dtaylor971 wrote:
But, you're an absolutely epic debater, and you have changed my mind in the past. I will be watching this!

Thanks, I'm glad you think the Earth is Flat.
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10/4/2014 11:48:27 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/4/2014 11:38:01 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 10/4/2014 10:34:39 AM, TheGreatAndPowerful wrote:
At 10/4/2014 7:51:03 AM, Wylted wrote:
I should also note that I won't accept any partner who is under 18 years old. I don't like the implications of accepting a partner younger than that.

Why?

1. I'm concerned about the mental health of any child that is pro child porn.

As opposed to an adult that is pro child porn?


2. People under 18 are rarely good at debating.

3. It's generally a good ideal to distance yourself from minors while advocating for something that sexually exploits children.

That seems contradictory to the position you're advocating.