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The Ascendance of the Trolls

thehumanistpreacher
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10/17/2014 5:15:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I have tried to ignore this issue but it's seems to be way to common and there does seem to be a lot of personal drama attached.

We need a list of all the most prominent trolls.

There is no tactic of getting rid of the trolls but you first have to identify the problem before it can be dealt with.

The method that would possibly be the least time consuming is incorporation of the trolls instead of constant deletion.

The basic question is Who are the trolls and What should be done about them?
imabench
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10/17/2014 5:18:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:16:46 PM, vwv

^ Well here's public enemy number 1 at the moment
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

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10/17/2014 5:20:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:18:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:16:46 PM, vwv

^ Well here's public enemy number 1 at the moment

You need to angle the arrow a bit more west
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10/17/2014 5:26:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:20:07 PM, vwv wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:18:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:16:46 PM, vwv

^ Well here's public enemy number 1 at the moment

You need to angle the arrow a bit more west

Still stuck in denial I see.

If you havent already found out, you're hated by about 75% of the site while those same people still love me around here ;)
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

DDO: THE MOVIE = http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

VP of DDO from Dec 14th 2014 to Jan 1st 2015
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10/17/2014 5:27:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:26:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:20:07 PM, vwv wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:18:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:16:46 PM, vwv

^ Well here's public enemy number 1 at the moment

You need to angle the arrow a bit more west

Still stuck in denial I see.

If you havent already found out, you're hated by about 75% of the site while those same people still love me around here ;)

Narcissism is a strange illness.
philochristos
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10/17/2014 5:27:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
We need a list of all the most prominent trolls.

There is no tactic of getting rid of the trolls but you first have to identify the problem before it can be dealt with.

Trollism works by drawing attention, so it seems like drawing specific attention to specific trolls would constitute "feeding the trolls," which is the opposite of what we should do.
"Not to know of what things one should demand demonstration, and of what one should not, argues want of education." ~Aristotle

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10/17/2014 5:30:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:27:53 PM, philochristos wrote:
We need a list of all the most prominent trolls.

There is no tactic of getting rid of the trolls but you first have to identify the problem before it can be dealt with.

Trollism works by drawing attention, so it seems like drawing specific attention to specific trolls would constitute "feeding the trolls," which is the opposite of what we should do.

Whoever you are, you deserve an internet cookie for this.
imabench
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10/17/2014 5:32:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:27:07 PM, vwv wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:26:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:20:07 PM, vwv wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:18:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:16:46 PM, vwv

^ Well here's public enemy number 1 at the moment

You need to angle the arrow a bit more west

Still stuck in denial I see.

If you havent already found out, you're hated by about 75% of the site while those same people still love me around here ;)

Narcissism is a strange illness.

http://www.debate.org...
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And I didnt make a single one of them
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

DDO: THE MOVIE = http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

VP of DDO from Dec 14th 2014 to Jan 1st 2015
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10/17/2014 5:34:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:32:33 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:27:07 PM, vwv wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:26:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:20:07 PM, vwv wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:18:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:16:46 PM, vwv

^ Well here's public enemy number 1 at the moment

You need to angle the arrow a bit more west

Still stuck in denial I see.

If you havent already found out, you're hated by about 75% of the site while those same people still love me around here ;)

Narcissism is a strange illness.

http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

And I didnt make a single one of them

Do you like the admiration you think you are getting?

Do you like that they pet you as you go fight off the other dogs?
imabench
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10/17/2014 5:36:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:34:43 PM, vwv wrote:

Do you like the admiration you think you are getting?

Absolutely

Do you like that they pet you as you go fight off the other dogs?

Absolutely. Hopefully you dont end up as my next meal ;)
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

DDO: THE MOVIE = http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

VP of DDO from Dec 14th 2014 to Jan 1st 2015
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10/17/2014 5:37:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:36:29 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:34:43 PM, vwv wrote:

Do you like the admiration you think you are getting?

Absolutely

Do you like that they pet you as you go fight off the other dogs?

Absolutely. Hopefully you dont end up as my next meal ;)

I wouldn't want to feed the troll.
thehumanistpreacher
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10/17/2014 5:39:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:27:53 PM, philochristos wrote:
We need a list of all the most prominent trolls.

There is no tactic of getting rid of the trolls but you first have to identify the problem before it can be dealt with.

Trollism works by drawing attention, so it seems like drawing specific attention to specific trolls would constitute "feeding the trolls," which is the opposite of what we should do.

The best course of action to take place is to find solutions for the problem instead of ignoring the problem. There are three options. Option 1 We ignore the trolls like you suggest and the trolls will carry on as they always have, destroying constructive discussions and intelligent conversations. Option 2 is that we incorporate the trolls by going down the road of constructive discussion on the best way of making sure that we recognise the troll issue and make sure they have a system of which they can hold troll debates and such. Option 3 is we fight the Troll horde and play a constant game of cat and mouse with the trolls by deletion where they post something and Airmax has to delete it so the moderators are playing a never ending game of whack a troll. The other is we have an unofficial purge where the intelligent unite identify the enemy of DDO and use there weapon of last resort being the dreaded KFC tactic.
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10/17/2014 5:40:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:37:22 PM, vwv wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:36:29 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:34:43 PM, vwv wrote:

Do you like the admiration you think you are getting?

Absolutely

Do you like that they pet you as you go fight off the other dogs?

Absolutely. Hopefully you dont end up as my next meal ;)

I wouldn't want to feed the troll.

'Troll' doesnt even begin to come close to accurately describing what/who I am around here.

It fits you perfectly though, much like an extra small condom.
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

DDO: THE MOVIE = http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

VP of DDO from Dec 14th 2014 to Jan 1st 2015
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10/17/2014 5:41:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:40:59 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:37:22 PM, vwv wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:36:29 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:34:43 PM, vwv wrote:

Do you like the admiration you think you are getting?

Absolutely

Do you like that they pet you as you go fight off the other dogs?

Absolutely. Hopefully you dont end up as my next meal ;)

I wouldn't want to feed the troll.

'Troll' doesnt even begin to come close to accurately describing what/who I am around here.

It fits you perfectly though, much like an extra small condom.

Alright then.
thehumanistpreacher
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10/17/2014 5:42:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:26:27 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
We'll just bring back KFC no prob

Apart from a recent prolific account that was banned recently. Who is the enemy we are aiming at?
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10/17/2014 5:42:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/17/2014 5:39:56 PM, thehumanistpreacher wrote:
At 10/17/2014 5:27:53 PM, philochristos wrote:
We need a list of all the most prominent trolls.

There is no tactic of getting rid of the trolls but you first have to identify the problem before it can be dealt with.

Trollism works by drawing attention, so it seems like drawing specific attention to specific trolls would constitute "feeding the trolls," which is the opposite of what we should do.

The best course of action to take place is to find solutions for the problem instead of ignoring the problem. There are three options. Option 1 We ignore the trolls like you suggest and the trolls will carry on as they always have, destroying constructive discussions and intelligent conversations. Option 2 is that we incorporate the trolls by going down the road of constructive discussion on the best way of making sure that we recognise the troll issue and make sure they have a system of which they can hold troll debates and such. Option 3 is we fight the Troll horde and play a constant game of cat and mouse with the trolls by deletion where they post something and Airmax has to delete it so the moderators are playing a never ending game of whack a troll. The other is we have an unofficial purge where the intelligent unite identify the enemy of DDO and use there weapon of last resort being the dreaded KFC tactic.

I pick option 0.