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Imperfiect
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10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong, I respect people's rights to express as they wish within reason but what exactly is with rap battles here?

Not only is the format itself not debate-worthy but I see actually rap battles, like not even topic-based ones... I'm slightly confused what is the aim of these?

If it helps I was always confused as to what the point of rap battles in general was...
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10/27/2014 7:41:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I respect people's rights to express as they wish within reason but what exactly is with rap battles here?

Not only is the format itself not debate-worthy but I see actually rap battles, like not even topic-based ones... I'm slightly confused what is the aim of these?

If it helps I was always confused as to what the point of rap battles in general was...

They're just cool shows of how much word play you can use to insult your opponent, along with rhythm and rhyme.
Some are indeed topic-based ones. Those are much tougher due to the limited amount of available material.
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10/27/2014 8:57:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 7:41:31 PM, 9spaceking wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I respect people's rights to express as they wish within reason but what exactly is with rap battles here?

Not only is the format itself not debate-worthy but I see actually rap battles, like not even topic-based ones... I'm slightly confused what is the aim of these?

If it helps I was always confused as to what the point of rap battles in general was...

They're just cool shows of how much word play you can use to insult your opponent, along with rhythm and rhyme.
Some are indeed topic-based ones. Those are much tougher due to the limited amount of available material.

And their purpose on Debate.org is?
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10/27/2014 8:59:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
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10/27/2014 10:48:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 8:57:59 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:41:31 PM, 9spaceking wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I respect people's rights to express as they wish within reason but what exactly is with rap battles here?

Not only is the format itself not debate-worthy but I see actually rap battles, like not even topic-based ones... I'm slightly confused what is the aim of these?

If it helps I was always confused as to what the point of rap battles in general was...

They're just cool shows of how much word play you can use to insult your opponent, along with rhythm and rhyme.
Some are indeed topic-based ones. Those are much tougher due to the limited amount of available material.

And their purpose on Debate.org is?

For fun. Just like anything on the site is
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10/27/2014 10:50:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 10:48:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 8:57:59 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:41:31 PM, 9spaceking wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I respect people's rights to express as they wish within reason but what exactly is with rap battles here?

Not only is the format itself not debate-worthy but I see actually rap battles, like not even topic-based ones... I'm slightly confused what is the aim of these?

If it helps I was always confused as to what the point of rap battles in general was...

They're just cool shows of how much word play you can use to insult your opponent, along with rhythm and rhyme.
Some are indeed topic-based ones. Those are much tougher due to the limited amount of available material.

And their purpose on Debate.org is?

For fun. Just like anything on the site is

Not meaning to be antagonistic but why don't we have videogames or porn?...

I was under the impression that this was due to this being an intellectual platform for people to engage in opinionated civil discourse which is everything that a rap battle stands against.
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10/27/2014 11:00:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 10:50:12 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 10:48:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 8:57:59 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:41:31 PM, 9spaceking wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I respect people's rights to express as they wish within reason but what exactly is with rap battles here?

Not only is the format itself not debate-worthy but I see actually rap battles, like not even topic-based ones... I'm slightly confused what is the aim of these?

If it helps I was always confused as to what the point of rap battles in general was...

They're just cool shows of how much word play you can use to insult your opponent, along with rhythm and rhyme.
Some are indeed topic-based ones. Those are much tougher due to the limited amount of available material.

And their purpose on Debate.org is?

For fun. Just like anything on the site is

Not meaning to be antagonistic but why don't we have videogames or porn?...

For video games, you could strike up a conversation in the entertainment or games forums, or just open a debate. Porn's only not allowed because we still have to at least attempt to be family friendly, but I'm sure Mikal has terabytes of porn if you really wanted some.

I was under the impression that this was due to this being an intellectual platform for people to engage in opinionated civil discourse

Correct to a certain extent. This is a platform for people to debate and discuss issue with each other, but it's also a social community where people can come together and talk and entertain themselves from doing more than just debate. Mafia existing in the games forum doesn't make debate.org become mafia.org, it's just a way for people to bind with other users and the community as a whole.

which is everything that a rap battle stands against.

Two refutations. One, rap battling doesn't harm any kind of intellectual discussion that could happen on this site, just like me eating an apple doesn't preclude you from eating an orange.

Two, I'd be willing to defend that rap battling has a positive impact on intellectual discussion and discourse on this site. From rap battling a lot of people on this site have started picking it up and it leads to a lot of theoretical discussion on what makes raps good or bad, which inevitably breaks down into a multitude of academic subjects (language, racial profiling, sexism, urbanism, etc.).
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10/27/2014 11:05:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
@Zaradi

If you are eating an apple in a place where orange eating culture is seeking to be cultivated it's very disruptive so... Yeah...
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10/27/2014 11:06:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:05:33 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
@Zaradi

If you are eating an apple in a place where orange eating culture is seeking to be cultivated it's very disruptive so... Yeah...

Not really lol. How does me eating an apple disrupt you from eating an orange?
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10/27/2014 11:07:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:06:42 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:05:33 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
@Zaradi

If you are eating an apple in a place where orange eating culture is seeking to be cultivated it's very disruptive so... Yeah...

Not really lol. How does me eating an apple disrupt you from eating an orange?

1v1 you are causing 50% of the community to not do what it was intended to do (50% being you)
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10/27/2014 11:07:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:05:33 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
@Zaradi

If you are eating an apple in a place where orange eating culture is seeking to be cultivated it's very disruptive so... Yeah...

Moreover, even if it does "disrupt" the site, I'm still saying that rap battles being about positive, academic discussion about meta-themes within raps.
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10/27/2014 11:09:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:07:56 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:05:33 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
@Zaradi

If you are eating an apple in a place where orange eating culture is seeking to be cultivated it's very disruptive so... Yeah...

Moreover, even if it does "disrupt" the site, I'm still saying that rap battles being about positive, academic discussion about meta-themes within raps.

This is why I said in my forum post that I am seeing actual rap battles user vs user, no topic, resolution or anything.
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10/27/2014 11:09:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:07:39 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:06:42 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:05:33 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
@Zaradi

If you are eating an apple in a place where orange eating culture is seeking to be cultivated it's very disruptive so... Yeah...

Not really lol. How does me eating an apple disrupt you from eating an orange?

1v1 you are causing 50% of the community to not do what it was intended to do (50% being you)

That's not a disruption though. To disrupt something my action would have to prevent you from doing your action. How does me eating an apple prevent you from eating an orange?
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10/27/2014 11:10:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:09:00 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:07:56 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:05:33 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
@Zaradi

If you are eating an apple in a place where orange eating culture is seeking to be cultivated it's very disruptive so... Yeah...

Moreover, even if it does "disrupt" the site, I'm still saying that rap battles being about positive, academic discussion about meta-themes within raps.

This is why I said in my forum post that I am seeing actual rap battles user vs user, no topic, resolution or anything.

Doesn't have to be a topic. The language and insults that people use can be analyzed and discussed, much like any argument can.
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10/27/2014 11:11:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:09:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:07:39 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:06:42 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:05:33 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
@Zaradi

If you are eating an apple in a place where orange eating culture is seeking to be cultivated it's very disruptive so... Yeah...

Not really lol. How does me eating an apple disrupt you from eating an orange?

1v1 you are causing 50% of the community to not do what it was intended to do (50% being you)

That's not a disruption though. To disrupt something my action would have to prevent you from doing your action. How does me eating an apple prevent you from eating an orange?

Actually if you are eating apples and a third member joins the community there is a 50% chance they'll take up apple eating instead of orange eating and over time the site will not only cultivate more apples in general and be prejudiced orange eaters and selectively cast us out but additionally will build on its ability to produce apples and get far more competitive at how viciously and artistically it can eat apples when it was intended to be an orange eating community to begin with.
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10/27/2014 11:12:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:10:22 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:09:00 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:07:56 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:05:33 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
@Zaradi

If you are eating an apple in a place where orange eating culture is seeking to be cultivated it's very disruptive so... Yeah...

Moreover, even if it does "disrupt" the site, I'm still saying that rap battles being about positive, academic discussion about meta-themes within raps.

This is why I said in my forum post that I am seeing actual rap battles user vs user, no topic, resolution or anything.

Doesn't have to be a topic. The language and insults that people use can be analyzed and discussed, much like any argument can.

No it cannot. It has absolutely nothing to do with debate and is purely abusive. Please stop antagonizing me with your nonsensical viewpoint. This was intended to be a serious post to get a serious answer.
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10/27/2014 11:16:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:11:12 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:09:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:07:39 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:06:42 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:05:33 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
@Zaradi

If you are eating an apple in a place where orange eating culture is seeking to be cultivated it's very disruptive so... Yeah...

Not really lol. How does me eating an apple disrupt you from eating an orange?

1v1 you are causing 50% of the community to not do what it was intended to do (50% being you)

That's not a disruption though. To disrupt something my action would have to prevent you from doing your action. How does me eating an apple prevent you from eating an orange?

Actually if you are eating apples and a third member joins the community there is a 50% chance they'll take up apple eating instead of orange eating and over time the site will not only cultivate more apples in general and be prejudiced orange eaters and selectively cast us out

Wut?

First, even if you're right here, that STILL doesn't prevent people from debating.

Second, debaters still hold a massive supermajority to rap battlers on this site. See us trying to "cast them out"?

Third, all this time you keep making assumtions that rap battles are just really negative things for the site, but you still haven't responded to the fact that meta-themes made in raps are things that can be analyzed. Even the word choice that someone uses can be something to be discussed.

but additionally will build on its ability to produce apples and get far more competitive at how viciously and artistically it can eat apples when it was intended to be an orange eating community to begin with.

Why is this a bad thing? Look at the games forum with mafia. It's its own thriving community there and there's plenty of mafia-specific discussion going on. Has this hurt the overall culture of the site and turned everyone away from debating? Hardly.
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10/27/2014 11:17:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:12:15 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:10:22 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:09:00 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:07:56 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:05:33 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
@Zaradi

If you are eating an apple in a place where orange eating culture is seeking to be cultivated it's very disruptive so... Yeah...

Moreover, even if it does "disrupt" the site, I'm still saying that rap battles being about positive, academic discussion about meta-themes within raps.

This is why I said in my forum post that I am seeing actual rap battles user vs user, no topic, resolution or anything.

Doesn't have to be a topic. The language and insults that people use can be analyzed and discussed, much like any argument can.

No it cannot. It has absolutely nothing to do with debate and is purely abusive. Please stop antagonizing me with your nonsensical viewpoint. This was intended to be a serious post to get a serious answer.

Are you saying that the study of language isn't something that can be discussed and debated?
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10/27/2014 11:19:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:16:48 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:11:12 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:09:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:07:39 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:06:42 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:05:33 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
@Zaradi

If you are eating an apple in a place where orange eating culture is seeking to be cultivated it's very disruptive so... Yeah...

Not really lol. How does me eating an apple disrupt you from eating an orange?

1v1 you are causing 50% of the community to not do what it was intended to do (50% being you)

That's not a disruption though. To disrupt something my action would have to prevent you from doing your action. How does me eating an apple prevent you from eating an orange?

Actually if you are eating apples and a third member joins the community there is a 50% chance they'll take up apple eating instead of orange eating and over time the site will not only cultivate more apples in general and be prejudiced orange eaters and selectively cast us out

Wut?

First, even if you're right here, that STILL doesn't prevent people from debating.

Second, debaters still hold a massive supermajority to rap battlers on this site. See us trying to "cast them out"?

Third, all this time you keep making assumptions that rap battles are just really negative things for the site, but you still haven't responded to the fact that meta-themes made in raps are things that can be analyzed. Even the word choice that someone uses can be something to be discussed.

What are you even talking about?

but additionally will build on its ability to produce apples and get far more competitive at how viciously and artistically it can eat apples when it was intended to be an orange eating community to begin with.

Why is this a bad thing? Look at the games forum with mafia. It's its own thriving community there and there's plenty of mafia-specific discussion going on. Has this hurt the overall culture of the site and turned everyone away from debating? Hardly.

Actually I didn't know about that forum but now that you say it, it is definitely disruptive and I would advocate for people wishing to play that game to go to a more juvenile forum elsewhere. This is a place for intellectual dispute not for immature games.
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10/27/2014 11:22:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:19:44 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:16:48 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:11:12 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:09:02 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:07:39 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:06:42 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:05:33 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
@Zaradi

If you are eating an apple in a place where orange eating culture is seeking to be cultivated it's very disruptive so... Yeah...

Not really lol. How does me eating an apple disrupt you from eating an orange?

1v1 you are causing 50% of the community to not do what it was intended to do (50% being you)

That's not a disruption though. To disrupt something my action would have to prevent you from doing your action. How does me eating an apple prevent you from eating an orange?

Actually if you are eating apples and a third member joins the community there is a 50% chance they'll take up apple eating instead of orange eating and over time the site will not only cultivate more apples in general and be prejudiced orange eaters and selectively cast us out

Wut?

First, even if you're right here, that STILL doesn't prevent people from debating.

Second, debaters still hold a massive supermajority to rap battlers on this site. See us trying to "cast them out"?

Third, all this time you keep making assumptions that rap battles are just really negative things for the site, but you still haven't responded to the fact that meta-themes made in raps are things that can be analyzed. Even the word choice that someone uses can be something to be discussed.

What are you even talking about?

The above was in response to the paragraph I just bolded.

but additionally will build on its ability to produce apples and get far more competitive at how viciously and artistically it can eat apples when it was intended to be an orange eating community to begin with.

Why is this a bad thing? Look at the games forum with mafia. It's its own thriving community there and there's plenty of mafia-specific discussion going on. Has this hurt the overall culture of the site and turned everyone away from debating? Hardly.

Actually I didn't know about that forum but now that you say it, it is definitely disruptive and I would advocate for people wishing to play that game to go to a more juvenile forum elsewhere. This is a place for intellectual dispute not for immature games.

*headdesk* how has rap battling or mafia prevented academic discourse...
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10/27/2014 11:24:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM, Imperfiect wrote:

Screw it, let's have an actual debate.

Resolved: Rap Battles should not take place on DDO

You be pro I be con?
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10/27/2014 11:24:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:24:00 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM, Imperfiect wrote:

Screw it, let's have an actual debate.

Resolved: Rap Battles should not take place on DDO

You be pro I be con?

should take you are pro.
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10/27/2014 11:25:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:24:45 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:24:00 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM, Imperfiect wrote:

Screw it, let's have an actual debate.

Resolved: Rap Battles should not take place on DDO

You be pro I be con?

should take you are pro.

Huh? Why would I be pro? I'm not advocating for them to leave the site.
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10/27/2014 11:26:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:22:26 PM, Zaradi wrote:

Why is this a bad thing? Look at the games forum with mafia. It's its own thriving community there and there's plenty of mafia-specific discussion going on. Has this hurt the overall culture of the site and turned everyone away from debating? Hardly.

Actually I didn't know about that forum but now that you say it, it is definitely disruptive and I would advocate for people wishing to play that game to go to a more juvenile forum elsewhere. This is a place for intellectual dispute not for immature games

*headdesk* how has rap battling or mafia prevented academic discourse...

Rofl. This is golden.

http://www.afuntab.com...
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10/27/2014 11:26:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:25:50 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:24:45 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:24:00 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM, Imperfiect wrote:

Screw it, let's have an actual debate.

Resolved: Rap Battles should not take place on DDO

You be pro I be con?

should take you are pro.

Huh? Why would I be pro? I'm not advocating for them to leave the site.

You are advocating for them even taking place here to begin with.
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10/27/2014 11:28:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:26:36 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:25:50 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:24:45 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:24:00 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM, Imperfiect wrote:

Screw it, let's have an actual debate.

Resolved: Rap Battles should not take place on DDO

You be pro I be con?

should take you are pro.

Huh? Why would I be pro? I'm not advocating for them to leave the site.

You are advocating for them even taking place here to begin with.

So why does that make me for "Rap Battles shouldn't take place in DDO"? If anything that makes me con.
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10/27/2014 11:29:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:26:14 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:22:26 PM, Zaradi wrote:

Why is this a bad thing? Look at the games forum with mafia. It's its own thriving community there and there's plenty of mafia-specific discussion going on. Has this hurt the overall culture of the site and turned everyone away from debating? Hardly.

Actually I didn't know about that forum but now that you say it, it is definitely disruptive and I would advocate for people wishing to play that game to go to a more juvenile forum elsewhere. This is a place for intellectual dispute not for immature games

*headdesk* how has rap battling or mafia prevented academic discourse...

Rofl. This is golden.

http://www.afuntab.com...

For real, though.
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10/27/2014 11:29:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:28:12 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:26:36 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:25:50 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:24:45 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:24:00 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM, Imperfiect wrote:

Screw it, let's have an actual debate.

Resolved: Rap Battles should not take place on DDO

You be pro I be con?

should take you are pro.

Huh? Why would I be pro? I'm not advocating for them to leave the site.

You are advocating for them even taking place here to begin with.

So why does that make me for "Rap Battles shouldn't take place in DDO"? If anything that makes me con.

You are creating a resolution with a negative in it to escape the burden of proof. It's rather pathetic to see you even trying to justify it after being called out on it.
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10/27/2014 11:31:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:29:11 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:28:12 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:26:36 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:25:50 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:24:45 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:24:00 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM, Imperfiect wrote:

Screw it, let's have an actual debate.

Resolved: Rap Battles should not take place on DDO

You be pro I be con?

should take you are pro.

Huh? Why would I be pro? I'm not advocating for them to leave the site.

You are advocating for them even taking place here to begin with.

So why does that make me for "Rap Battles shouldn't take place in DDO"? If anything that makes me con.

You are creating a resolution with a negative in it to escape the burden of proof. It's rather pathetic to see you even trying to justify it after being called out on it.

How is the BOP on me to refute your belief? If anything the BoP is on you because a) I'm asking you to justify your belief. Saying "well you disprove me" doesn't justify your belief, and b) you're the one advocating for a chance in the status quo of the site (going from rap battles to no rap battles). That pretty much mandates you to carry the BoP.
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10/27/2014 11:33:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/27/2014 11:31:51 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:29:11 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:28:12 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:26:36 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:25:50 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:24:45 PM, Imperfiect wrote:
At 10/27/2014 11:24:00 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 10/27/2014 7:32:28 PM, Imperfiect wrote:

Screw it, let's have an actual debate.

Resolved: Rap Battles should not take place on DDO

You be pro I be con?

should take you are pro.

Huh? Why would I be pro? I'm not advocating for them to leave the site.

You are advocating for them even taking place here to begin with.

So why does that make me for "Rap Battles shouldn't take place in DDO"? If anything that makes me con.

You are creating a resolution with a negative in it to escape the burden of proof. It's rather pathetic to see you even trying to justify it after being called out on it.

How is the BOP on me to refute your belief? If anything the BoP is on you because a) I'm asking you to justify your belief. Saying "well you disprove me" doesn't justify your belief, and b) you're the one advocating for a chance in the status quo of the site (going from rap battles to no rap battles). That pretty much mandates you to carry the BoP.

I want the resolution to read 'On a site designed to cultivate intellectual, yet civil, discourse rap battles have no place.'

I do not know enough about DDO's personal history regarding rap battles to debate what you want me to debate.