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11/1/2014 5:54:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I generally take 15-30 minutes for noob-snipes, 1-2 hrs for real opponents (e.g. 9spaceking), and several hours (from reading, thinking, framing, writing, reviewing, etc) for really good opponents (e.g. Zaradi).
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11/1/2014 6:16:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 5:54:56 PM, UchihaMadara wrote:
I generally take 15-30 minutes for noob-snipes, 1-2 hrs for real opponents (e.g. 9spaceking), and several hours (from reading, thinking, framing, writing, reviewing, etc) for really good opponents (e.g. Zaradi).

Wow...you put a ton of work into your debates. I don't do nearly that much. Perhaps that's why I usually lose.
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11/1/2014 6:18:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 5:54:56 PM, UchihaMadara wrote:
I generally take 15-30 minutes for noob-snipes, 1-2 hrs for real opponents (e.g. 9spaceking), and several hours (from reading, thinking, framing, writing, reviewing, etc) for really good opponents (e.g. Zaradi).

like 10 mins

i think i did my rounds with roy in like 20 but that is the most time iever ever spent on one. im to lazy to read over it alot
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11/1/2014 6:20:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 6:18:32 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/1/2014 5:54:56 PM, UchihaMadara wrote:
I generally take 15-30 minutes for noob-snipes, 1-2 hrs for real opponents (e.g. 9spaceking), and several hours (from reading, thinking, framing, writing, reviewing, etc) for really good opponents (e.g. Zaradi).

i think i did my rounds with roy in like 20

please tell me you mean hours.... 0_0
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11/1/2014 6:23:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
1-3 hours, depending on the opponent, the topic, my availability, and the ease of research (if research is necessary.) The most time I've put into a debate arg was maybe 4.5 hours.
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11/1/2014 7:01:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Mikal, I call bullsh!t. How can you even do research plus type that much in 10 minutes?

Just did a round, took about an hour.
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: At 11/17/2014 9:30:55 AM, Wylted wrote:
: I killed Nymph because her reads were incredibly good. I thought it was a result of inside knowledge.
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11/1/2014 7:11:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 7:01:10 PM, Nymphomaniac wrote:
Mikal, I call bullsh!t. How can you even do research plus type that much in 10 minutes?

Just did a round, took about an hour.

Same. I can believe that for noob-snipes, but there is no way he could have written arguments as high quality as the ones he put forth against Roy in 20 minutes...
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11/1/2014 7:11:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 6:20:06 PM, UchihaMadara wrote:
At 11/1/2014 6:18:32 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/1/2014 5:54:56 PM, UchihaMadara wrote:
I generally take 15-30 minutes for noob-snipes, 1-2 hrs for real opponents (e.g. 9spaceking), and several hours (from reading, thinking, framing, writing, reviewing, etc) for really good opponents (e.g. Zaradi).

i think i did my rounds with roy in like 20

please tell me you mean hours.... 0_0

20 mins give or take i think it was
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11/1/2014 7:12:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 6:23:13 PM, bsh1 wrote:
1-3 hours, depending on the opponent, the topic, my availability, and the ease of research (if research is necessary.) The most time I've put into a debate arg was maybe 4.5 hours.

ooh which debate?
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11/1/2014 7:12:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 7:01:10 PM, Nymphomaniac wrote:
Mikal, I call bullsh!t. How can you even do research plus type that much in 10 minutes?

Just did a round, took about an hour.

google, plus most of it was already sourced from previous debates and stuff i had up. The only thing i had to do was like source it and move on. I literally never spend more than 30 mins on a round. I dont think ive ever spent more than 30 on a round actually. The longest time I ever spent on something was a debate I did about a turtle holding up the world and that was a troll debate
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11/1/2014 7:12:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Wait, Mikal is talking about the actual writing. He probably isn't counting research time.
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: At 11/17/2014 9:30:55 AM, Wylted wrote:
: I killed Nymph because her reads were incredibly good. I thought it was a result of inside knowledge.
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11/1/2014 7:14:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 7:12:44 PM, UchihaMadara wrote:
At 11/1/2014 6:23:13 PM, bsh1 wrote:
1-3 hours, depending on the opponent, the topic, my availability, and the ease of research (if research is necessary.) The most time I've put into a debate arg was maybe 4.5 hours.

ooh which debate?

The debates I did with DK, Whiteflame, and Gandalf took the most time per round.
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11/1/2014 7:14:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 5:54:56 PM, UchihaMadara wrote:
I generally take 15-30 minutes for noob-snipes, 1-2 hrs for real opponents (e.g. 9spaceking), and several hours (from reading, thinking, framing, writing, reviewing, etc) for really good opponents (e.g. Zaradi).

Takes me a day or two to prepair for the really good opponents, then about 1 hour to write everything down.
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11/1/2014 7:15:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 7:12:56 PM, Nymphomaniac wrote:
Wait, Mikal is talking about the actual writing. He probably isn't counting research time.

There is no research, i generally don't take topics i know nothing about. The ones i know stuff about are sourced from previous debates. Even if i have to formalize a new argument it is generally already outlined in some of my other debates and papers i have did on here and college.
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11/1/2014 7:16:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 7:14:17 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/1/2014 7:12:44 PM, UchihaMadara wrote:
At 11/1/2014 6:23:13 PM, bsh1 wrote:
1-3 hours, depending on the opponent, the topic, my availability, and the ease of research (if research is necessary.) The most time I've put into a debate arg was maybe 4.5 hours.

ooh which debate?

The debates I did with DK, Whiteflame, and Gandalf took the most time per round.

.....you debated Gandalf?
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11/1/2014 7:17:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 7:15:41 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/1/2014 7:12:56 PM, Nymphomaniac wrote:
Wait, Mikal is talking about the actual writing. He probably isn't counting research time.

There is no research, i generally don't take topics i know nothing about. The ones i know stuff about are sourced from previous debates. Even if i have to formalize a new argument it is generally already outlined in some of my other debates and papers i have did on here and college.

Okay, that makes sense. I just did a round where I knew nothing on the topic. I spent most of it researching. I can agree the writing takes less time, so if you know the topic already, plus have sources ready, you can do that in 20 minutes.
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: At 11/17/2014 9:30:55 AM, Wylted wrote:
: I killed Nymph because her reads were incredibly good. I thought it was a result of inside knowledge.
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11/1/2014 7:18:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 7:17:37 PM, Nymphomaniac wrote:
At 11/1/2014 7:15:41 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/1/2014 7:12:56 PM, Nymphomaniac wrote:
Wait, Mikal is talking about the actual writing. He probably isn't counting research time.

There is no research, i generally don't take topics i know nothing about. The ones i know stuff about are sourced from previous debates. Even if i have to formalize a new argument it is generally already outlined in some of my other debates and papers i have did on here and college.

Okay, that makes sense. I just did a round where I knew nothing on the topic. I spent most of it researching. I can agree the writing takes less time, so if you know the topic already, plus have sources ready, you can do that in 20 minutes.

I never spell check anything either, you can tell that by my grammar in my debates lol
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11/1/2014 7:19:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 7:16:18 PM, UchihaMadara wrote:
At 11/1/2014 7:14:17 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/1/2014 7:12:44 PM, UchihaMadara wrote:
At 11/1/2014 6:23:13 PM, bsh1 wrote:
1-3 hours, depending on the opponent, the topic, my availability, and the ease of research (if research is necessary.) The most time I've put into a debate arg was maybe 4.5 hours.

ooh which debate?

The debates I did with DK, Whiteflame, and Gandalf took the most time per round.

.....you debated Gandalf?

I wish lol...

Here's the debate I'm referencing (it's an early one of mine): http://www.debate.org...
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11/1/2014 7:19:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 7:17:37 PM, Nymphomaniac wrote:

Okay, that makes sense. I just did a round where I knew nothing on the topic.

And you did a pretty damn good job, too... 0_0
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11/1/2014 7:23:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 7:19:48 PM, UchihaMadara wrote:
At 11/1/2014 7:17:37 PM, Nymphomaniac wrote:

Okay, that makes sense. I just did a round where I knew nothing on the topic.

And you did a pretty damn good job, too... 0_0

Meh, I just synthesized a bunch of articles. Nothing crazy there. The fun should start next round.
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: At 11/17/2014 9:30:55 AM, Wylted wrote:
: I killed Nymph because her reads were incredibly good. I thought it was a result of inside knowledge.
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11/1/2014 9:22:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 5:54:56 PM, UchihaMadara wrote:
I generally take 15-30 minutes for noob-snipes, 1-2 hrs for real opponents (e.g. 9spaceking), and several hours (from reading, thinking, framing, writing, reviewing, etc) for really good opponents (e.g. Zaradi).

I usually just write my arguments. While I do that I think and write it. So it does not so much as depend on the person as much as the size. I am not the fastest typist.

I remember in my debate with whiteflame, Roy, and et cetera I took around 45 minutes. That is the amount I usually take for writing an argument+research but I have gone to about an hour.

For the same size in stupid argument it would take me 20 minutes.
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11/1/2014 10:20:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Anywhere between 2 minutes and 8 hours, depending on my opponent, and how familiar I am with the topic.

Usually my longest argument times are the worst ones... Because I have no idea what to write....
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11/2/2014 3:21:37 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
It definitely depends on the opponent and whether I'm researching while writing or have already done the research prior to writing out my round. For me it's ranged from anywhere between 20 minutes to 3 hours. I also tend to get distracted while researching because I usually stumble across new information I find interesting. When that happens, the time it takes tends to lean towards the latter end of that spectrum.
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11/2/2014 8:00:58 AM
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I usually write my arguments ASAP within 10 seconds (NOOB SNIPE) to 30 minutes (quality debater like Bsh1 or whatever)
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11/2/2014 10:28:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/1/2014 5:54:56 PM, UchihaMadara wrote:
I generally take 15-30 minutes for noob-snipes, 1-2 hrs for real opponents (e.g. 9spaceking), and several hours (from reading, thinking, framing, writing, reviewing, etc) for really good opponents (e.g. Zaradi).

Four or five hours.
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11/2/2014 11:01:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
bout an hour
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11/2/2014 11:04:55 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/2/2014 8:41:21 AM, UchihaMadara wrote:
Thanks for making me feel slow, guys :(

I'm sure some of them have snipped some time from theirs. Don't let it get you down bro, it's the fact that you spend time on your arguments that you end up with so many high-quality rounds. People respect you for being a strong debater for your age, the time it takes shouldn't matter. What matters is that you care enough to invest that amount of time in the first place. That's a good quality to have in life.
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11/2/2014 11:10:45 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/2/2014 11:04:55 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 11/2/2014 8:41:21 AM, UchihaMadara wrote:
Thanks for making me feel slow, guys :(

I'm sure some of them have snipped some time from theirs. Don't let it get you down bro, it's the fact that you spend time on your arguments that you end up with so many high-quality rounds. People respect you for being a strong debater for your age, the time it takes shouldn't matter. What matters is that you care enough to invest that amount of time in the first place. That's a good quality to have in life.

Haha I was kidding, but thanks :D
It means a lot ^_^
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11/2/2014 11:15:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/2/2014 8:41:21 AM, UchihaMadara wrote:
Thanks for making me feel slow, guys :(

I spend a lot of time on them too, probably longer than you. Sometimes I take until the last minute because h first 48 hours to research and explore a bunch of different routes. Then I sleep on everything when I wake up I try to put all that information into a cohesive argument. Writing the argument can take about 2 hours because I'm tracking down my original sources and what not.

If it's something I've previously researched, I jut spend a few hours tracking down sources.