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11/22/2014 11:34:12 PM
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Who will reign victorious? Come and see.

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11/23/2014 12:11:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
damn internet logged me out >:(
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11/23/2014 12:17:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/22/2014 11:40:21 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Anyone wanting to get in here better do it fast because we're about to start.

The hell with that.
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11/23/2014 12:19:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I was hoping to see a debate, not a speedtalking competition. A complete waste of time in my opinion.
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11/23/2014 12:36:21 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 12:19:46 AM, zmikecuber wrote:
I was hoping to see a debate, not a speedtalking competition. A complete waste of time in my opinion.

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11/23/2014 12:43:15 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 12:19:46 AM, zmikecuber wrote:
I was hoping to see a debate, not a speedtalking competition. A complete waste of time in my opinion.

1. Just because you didn't understand me/us doesn't mean that it wasn't a debate.

2. Stop crying because you were out of your depth :P

3. If you want I'll debate you over whether spreading in debate is beneficial or harmful.
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11/23/2014 12:51:02 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 12:19:46 AM, zmikecuber wrote:
I was hoping to see a debate, not a speedtalking competition. A complete waste of time in my opinion.

How kind...

You haven't seen a real speed-talking competition then.
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11/23/2014 12:51:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
The debate! Ta-da!

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11/23/2014 1:03:16 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I can't listen to this debate. Do I need a microphone to listen to it?
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11/23/2014 1:05:51 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Oh, it's over. I'm a derp, nevermind.
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
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"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
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11/23/2014 1:06:02 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:03:16 AM, That1User wrote:
I can't listen to this debate. Do I need a microphone to listen to it?

Try clicking the link and viewing it on youtube.
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11/23/2014 1:06:06 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:03:16 AM, That1User wrote:
I can't listen to this debate. Do I need a microphone to listen to it?

no, not necessarily.
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11/23/2014 1:20:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:06:02 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:03:16 AM, That1User wrote:
I can't listen to this debate. Do I need a microphone to listen to it?

Try clicking the link and viewing it on youtube.

Thanks b1sh and Cermank for answering my question. I found the live debate to be interesting as I have not viewed a live debate before. It was, however, hard to follow. I suggest that there be a transcript to the video, or two versions of the debate, a live debate and a regular debate. It would be interesting to see if the results would be the same or different.
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
R13; Marcus Aurelius
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
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11/23/2014 1:24:42 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:20:38 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:06:02 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:03:16 AM, That1User wrote:
I can't listen to this debate. Do I need a microphone to listen to it?

Try clicking the link and viewing it on youtube.

Thanks b1sh and Cermank for answering my question. I found the live debate to be interesting as I have not viewed a live debate before. It was, however, hard to follow. I suggest that there be a transcript to the video, or two versions of the debate, a live debate and a regular debate. It would be interesting to see if the results would be the same or different.

http://www.debate.org...

transcripts of the constructive cases coming :)
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11/23/2014 1:25:37 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Yay :-)
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
R13; Marcus Aurelius
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
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11/23/2014 1:29:03 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:20:38 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:06:02 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:03:16 AM, That1User wrote:
I can't listen to this debate. Do I need a microphone to listen to it?

Try clicking the link and viewing it on youtube.

Thanks b1sh and Cermank for answering my question. I found the live debate to be interesting as I have not viewed a live debate before. It was, however, hard to follow. I suggest that there be a transcript to the video, or two versions of the debate, a live debate and a regular debate. It would be interesting to see if the results would be the same or different.

Because live debates are much more fast-paced, there is a huge emphasis placed on flowing (proper note-taking during the debate), sign-posting (explaining what arguments you are rebutting when), and roadmapping (giving a general outline about what you're going to do in a speech).

It takes some getting used to, but it's super fun once you got it down.
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11/23/2014 1:32:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:29:03 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:20:38 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:06:02 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:03:16 AM, That1User wrote:
I can't listen to this debate. Do I need a microphone to listen to it?

Try clicking the link and viewing it on youtube.

Thanks b1sh and Cermank for answering my question. I found the live debate to be interesting as I have not viewed a live debate before. It was, however, hard to follow. I suggest that there be a transcript to the video, or two versions of the debate, a live debate and a regular debate. It would be interesting to see if the results would be the same or different.

Because live debates are much more fast-paced, there is a huge emphasis placed on flowing (proper note-taking during the debate), sign-posting (explaining what arguments you are rebutting when), and roadmapping (giving a general outline about what you're going to do in a speech).

It takes some getting used to, but it's super fun once you got it down.
So because speed is of the essence and the flow of the argument is important during a Live Debate. This makes sense, because when debating in front of a live audiance these things are about as important as the argument themselves.
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
R13; Marcus Aurelius
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
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11/23/2014 1:33:02 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:24:42 AM, Cermank wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:20:38 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:06:02 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:03:16 AM, That1User wrote:
I can't listen to this debate. Do I need a microphone to listen to it?

Try clicking the link and viewing it on youtube.

Thanks b1sh and Cermank for answering my question. I found the live debate to be interesting as I have not viewed a live debate before. It was, however, hard to follow. I suggest that there be a transcript to the video, or two versions of the debate, a live debate and a regular debate. It would be interesting to see if the results would be the same or different.

http://www.debate.org...

transcripts of the constructive cases coming :)

How can you understand it well enough to transcribe it...? 0_0
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11/23/2014 1:34:39 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:32:22 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:29:03 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:20:38 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:06:02 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:03:16 AM, That1User wrote:
I can't listen to this debate. Do I need a microphone to listen to it?

Try clicking the link and viewing it on youtube.

Thanks b1sh and Cermank for answering my question. I found the live debate to be interesting as I have not viewed a live debate before. It was, however, hard to follow. I suggest that there be a transcript to the video, or two versions of the debate, a live debate and a regular debate. It would be interesting to see if the results would be the same or different.

Because live debates are much more fast-paced, there is a huge emphasis placed on flowing (proper note-taking during the debate), sign-posting (explaining what arguments you are rebutting when), and roadmapping (giving a general outline about what you're going to do in a speech).

It takes some getting used to, but it's super fun once you got it down.
So because speed is of the essence and the flow of the argument is important during a Live Debate. This makes sense, because when debating in front of a live audiance these things are about as important as the argument themselves.

Speed is interesting, because some people are more okay with it that others, so debaters have to adapt to their judges. The note-taking (flowing) is absolutely critical to keeping track of how the arguments are arranged and what arguments were made, definitely.
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11/23/2014 1:36:27 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:33:02 AM, UchihaMadara wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:24:42 AM, Cermank wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:20:38 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:06:02 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:03:16 AM, That1User wrote:
I can't listen to this debate. Do I need a microphone to listen to it?

Try clicking the link and viewing it on youtube.

Thanks b1sh and Cermank for answering my question. I found the live debate to be interesting as I have not viewed a live debate before. It was, however, hard to follow. I suggest that there be a transcript to the video, or two versions of the debate, a live debate and a regular debate. It would be interesting to see if the results would be the same or different.

http://www.debate.org...

transcripts of the constructive cases coming :)

How can you understand it well enough to transcribe it...? 0_0

Well I have my case saved and Bsh has his case saved....
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11/23/2014 1:36:45 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:33:02 AM, UchihaMadara wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:24:42 AM, Cermank wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:20:38 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:06:02 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:03:16 AM, That1User wrote:
I can't listen to this debate. Do I need a microphone to listen to it?

Try clicking the link and viewing it on youtube.

Thanks b1sh and Cermank for answering my question. I found the live debate to be interesting as I have not viewed a live debate before. It was, however, hard to follow. I suggest that there be a transcript to the video, or two versions of the debate, a live debate and a regular debate. It would be interesting to see if the results would be the same or different.

http://www.debate.org...

transcripts of the constructive cases coming :)

How can you understand it well enough to transcribe it...? 0_0

Not that hard; i created a transcript on the right in the chat while the debate was going on.
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11/23/2014 1:38:58 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:36:27 AM, Zaradi wrote:


The speed that zaradi went in the last round -- when he said he was going to be full on spreading -- was actually slow by policy debate standards.
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11/23/2014 1:42:16 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:33:02 AM, UchihaMadara wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:24:42 AM, Cermank wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:20:38 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:06:02 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:03:16 AM, That1User wrote:
I can't listen to this debate. Do I need a microphone to listen to it?

Try clicking the link and viewing it on youtube.

Thanks b1sh and Cermank for answering my question. I found the live debate to be interesting as I have not viewed a live debate before. It was, however, hard to follow. I suggest that there be a transcript to the video, or two versions of the debate, a live debate and a regular debate. It would be interesting to see if the results would be the same or different.

http://www.debate.org...

transcripts of the constructive cases coming :)

How can you understand it well enough to transcribe it...? 0_0

The debaters themselves would give the transcripts of their cases on the debate. In the next rounds, according to the rules.

And it really isn't that difficult once you get used to it. I don't particularly like it, but its what it is lol.
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11/23/2014 1:47:03 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:38:58 AM, bluesteel wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:36:27 AM, Zaradi wrote:


The speed that zaradi went in the last round -- when he said he was going to be full on spreading -- was actually slow by policy debate standards.

^

I'm about average in terms of LD speed, and average is, like, snails pace to policy.
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11/23/2014 1:49:39 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:47:03 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:38:58 AM, bluesteel wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:36:27 AM, Zaradi wrote:


The speed that zaradi went in the last round -- when he said he was going to be full on spreading -- was actually slow by policy debate standards.

^

I'm about average in terms of LD speed, and average is, like, snails pace to policy.

My AC was not spreading, for the record lol. You could totally spread me out of any round if you wanted--pretty impressive, actually.
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11/23/2014 2:23:50 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 1:49:39 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:47:03 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:38:58 AM, bluesteel wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:36:27 AM, Zaradi wrote:


The speed that zaradi went in the last round -- when he said he was going to be full on spreading -- was actually slow by policy debate standards.

^

I'm about average in terms of LD speed, and average is, like, snails pace to policy.

My AC was not spreading, for the record lol. You could totally spread me out of any round if you wanted--pretty impressive, actually.

It certainly wasn't a conversational pace :P
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11/23/2014 2:25:18 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 2:23:50 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:49:39 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:47:03 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:38:58 AM, bluesteel wrote:
At 11/23/2014 1:36:27 AM, Zaradi wrote:


The speed that zaradi went in the last round -- when he said he was going to be full on spreading -- was actually slow by policy debate standards.

^

I'm about average in terms of LD speed, and average is, like, snails pace to policy.

My AC was not spreading, for the record lol. You could totally spread me out of any round if you wanted--pretty impressive, actually.

It certainly wasn't a conversational pace :P

Lol...I guess that's true. Touche :)
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11/23/2014 2:45:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Btw...this was a really good, interesting, and fun debate. I really appreciate you agreeing to do this, Zaradi.
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11/23/2014 2:53:55 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 2:45:52 AM, bsh1 wrote:
Btw...this was a really good, interesting, and fun debate. I really appreciate you agreeing to do this, Zaradi.

Haha no problem. 'Twas fun to get back into the saddle against someone who knew what they were doing for once xD
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