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Khaos_Mage
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12/3/2014 2:41:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

What?
You mean polls that ask:
What rape is best, or
Would you rather rape a black guy or an ape?

No....
I can't see why that would be bad?
It's not like Juggle is trying to attract this kind of traffic - the teen douche crowd.
My work here is, finally, done.
Mikal
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12/3/2014 2:42:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 2:41:02 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

What?
You mean polls that ask:
What rape is best, or
Would you rather rape a black guy or an ape?

No....
I can't see why that would be bad?
It's not like Juggle is trying to attract this kind of traffic - the teen douche crowd.

Juggle want's to get hits. Letting people post polls like that gets them hits, that being on the front page serves no purpose. I'm pretty sure they are well aware of it, they just are either (a) just don't have to fix it (b) don't have the resources to fix it

that does not change the fact it should be altered.
Khaos_Mage
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12/3/2014 2:46:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 2:42:42 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:41:02 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

What?
You mean polls that ask:
What rape is best, or
Would you rather rape a black guy or an ape?

No....
I can't see why that would be bad?
It's not like Juggle is trying to attract this kind of traffic - the teen douche crowd.

Juggle want's to get hits. Letting people post polls like that gets them hits, that being on the front page serves no purpose. I'm pretty sure they are well aware of it, they just are either (a) just don't have to fix it (b) don't have the resources to fix it

that does not change the fact it should be altered.

I'm not saying it does.
It shouldn't be on the front page. I fully agree.
Juggle should be trying to attract a more specific audience, and not just any internet user, which hurts the site overall.
My work here is, finally, done.
Vox_Veritas
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12/3/2014 2:46:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

Is the troll problem on DDO worse than it is on most Sites?
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Khaos_Mage
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12/3/2014 2:49:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 2:46:12 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

Is the troll problem on DDO worse than it is on most Sites?

It's worse with the advent of the polls.
The site is not what it once was, and that is in part to good users leaving for various reasons, but also due to higher concentration of people who want to be heard with have little to say and are not here to expand their ideas or search for truth.
My work here is, finally, done.
YamaVonKarma
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12/3/2014 3:02:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

Do it and you have my vote.
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW
mishapqueen
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12/3/2014 3:48:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

What will the new front page look like?
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Mikal
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12/3/2014 4:17:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 2:46:04 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:42:42 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:41:02 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

What?
You mean polls that ask:
What rape is best, or
Would you rather rape a black guy or an ape?

No....
I can't see why that would be bad?
It's not like Juggle is trying to attract this kind of traffic - the teen douche crowd.

Juggle want's to get hits. Letting people post polls like that gets them hits, that being on the front page serves no purpose. I'm pretty sure they are well aware of it, they just are either (a) just don't have to fix it (b) don't have the resources to fix it

that does not change the fact it should be altered.

I'm not saying it does.
It shouldn't be on the front page. I fully agree.
Juggle should be trying to attract a more specific audience, and not just any internet user, which hurts the site overall.

and if i die trying, im changing that if i get elected. That is what i want as the hallmark of my election
Mikal
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12/3/2014 4:18:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 3:02:16 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

Do it and you have my vote.

that is something i need your vote to do, Then if im elected and get the sites support, maybe we can make a case appealing enough to get it changed
Mikal
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12/3/2014 4:18:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 3:48:41 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

What will the new front page look like?

same layout , different criteria for what appears on it so the crap polls and debates dont show up on it
mishapqueen
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12/3/2014 4:19:54 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 4:18:30 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/3/2014 3:48:41 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

What will the new front page look like?

same layout , different criteria for what appears on it so the crap polls and debates dont show up on it

Oh, ok.
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12/3/2014 4:38:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 4:18:30 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/3/2014 3:48:41 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

What will the new front page look like?

same layout , different criteria for what appears on it so the crap polls and debates dont show up on it

What will they be?
Mikal
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12/3/2014 5:01:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 4:38:00 PM, kbub wrote:
At 12/3/2014 4:18:30 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/3/2014 3:48:41 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

What will the new front page look like?

same layout , different criteria for what appears on it so the crap polls and debates dont show up on it

What will they be?

The criteria want to push is one that I will have to hash out with the community, max, and anyone that is willing to offer input.

We would actually have to establish a system, but any system is better than the status quo thus far

Instead of being able to spam comments on a debate to bump it to the front page it should include a number of factors. Views, comments, likes, etc and then base it on that. That is just off the top of my head, there will be much discussion about the actual system and how we should change it when it's able to be changed. I think a solid start is to do what i mentioned and add more criteria for what is featured.
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12/3/2014 5:04:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 3:02:16 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

Do it and you have my vote.

If he abolishes the opinion and poll sections entirely, we should make him king forever.
kbub
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12/3/2014 5:08:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 5:01:51 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/3/2014 4:38:00 PM, kbub wrote:
At 12/3/2014 4:18:30 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/3/2014 3:48:41 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

What will the new front page look like?

same layout , different criteria for what appears on it so the crap polls and debates dont show up on it

What will they be?

The criteria want to push is one that I will have to hash out with the community, max, and anyone that is willing to offer input.

We would actually have to establish a system, but any system is better than the status quo thus far

Instead of being able to spam comments on a debate to bump it to the front page it should include a number of factors. Views, comments, likes, etc and then base it on that. That is just off the top of my head, there will be much discussion about the actual system and how we should change it when it's able to be changed. I think a solid start is to do what i mentioned and add more criteria for what is featured.

Wouldn't that mean that the opinions and polls sections wouldn't change? The most popular would only increase in popularity. The front page needs some changes, and this would maybe work for the "debates." But it won't help the racist pictures at all...
ElCorazonAma
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12/3/2014 5:11:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before
I never cared for the polls actually...
and people make some pretty discriminating topics too...
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Mikal
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12/3/2014 5:43:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/3/2014 5:08:29 PM, kbub wrote:
At 12/3/2014 5:01:51 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/3/2014 4:38:00 PM, kbub wrote:
At 12/3/2014 4:18:30 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/3/2014 3:48:41 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 12/3/2014 2:37:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
http://tinypic.com...

This is what I primarily want to fix in this election, and this is a mild version of what has shown up before

What will the new front page look like?

same layout , different criteria for what appears on it so the crap polls and debates dont show up on it

What will they be?

The criteria want to push is one that I will have to hash out with the community, max, and anyone that is willing to offer input.

We would actually have to establish a system, but any system is better than the status quo thus far

Instead of being able to spam comments on a debate to bump it to the front page it should include a number of factors. Views, comments, likes, etc and then base it on that. That is just off the top of my head, there will be much discussion about the actual system and how we should change it when it's able to be changed. I think a solid start is to do what i mentioned and add more criteria for what is featured.

Wouldn't that mean that the opinions and polls sections wouldn't change? The most popular would only increase in popularity. The front page needs some changes, and this would maybe work for the "debates." But it won't help the racist pictures at all...

that is just per the debates, the polls im still trying to figure out how to judge a criteria for it what could balance it out. I had this discussion with a friend a while back and the only thing we could come up with was only allow polls that have been approved by selected members to make it up there to get rid of the spam

there is no way to actually reduce the polls or ops other than getting someone to filter through it or put more mature members in the section so it balances it out.

the other option is remove the ops and polls off the front page entirely