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12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM
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Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?
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12/23/2014 9:29:30 PM
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At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

Because not everything happens immediately after election. He has more than one program to start up first, and starting a program is time consuming.
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12/23/2014 9:31:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I have been in contact with people trying to set out a plan. That is further down the road, but I already asked mirza and he declined because of real life situations. Someone will fill in when I actually set the program to start
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12/23/2014 9:46:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

He's already elected. He doesn't have to pay attention to your requests now.
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12/23/2014 9:58:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/23/2014 9:29:30 PM, donald.keller wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

Because not everything happens immediately after election. He has more than one program to start up first, and starting a program is time consuming.

There is a program that is already started that could be temporarily adapted.
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12/23/2014 10:00:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/23/2014 9:31:40 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I have been in contact with people trying to set out a plan. That is further down the road, but I already asked mirza and he declined because of real life situations. Someone will fill in when I actually set the program to start

Even if it is further down the road, it would not be hard to contact the Religion Forum Ambassadors that Bladrunner set up. Maybe look at what he tried and give a couple recommendations until you can make your own plan. As it is right now, the religion forums are falling further down the **** hole every day.
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12/23/2014 10:00:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/23/2014 9:58:40 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:29:30 PM, donald.keller wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

Because not everything happens immediately after election. He has more than one program to start up first, and starting a program is time consuming.

There is a program that is already started that could be temporarily adapted.

Adapting a program also takes time. Mikal has to take priority. He can't just do one thing first because people in the Religious forum wants it. Voting, setting up relations with Juggle, and setting up a program for the Polls and Opinions are also very important.
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12/23/2014 10:00:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/23/2014 10:00:17 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:31:40 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I have been in contact with people trying to set out a plan. That is further down the road, but I already asked mirza and he declined because of real life situations. Someone will fill in when I actually set the program to start

Even if it is further down the road, it would not be hard to contact the Religion Forum Ambassadors that Bladrunner set up. Maybe look at what he tried and give a couple recommendations until you can make your own plan. As it is right now, the religion forums are falling further down the **** hole every day.

My program is different than forum ambassadors but im setting it up entirely after this tourney finishes
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12/23/2014 10:04:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/23/2014 10:00:57 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/23/2014 10:00:17 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:31:40 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I have been in contact with people trying to set out a plan. That is further down the road, but I already asked mirza and he declined because of real life situations. Someone will fill in when I actually set the program to start

Even if it is further down the road, it would not be hard to contact the Religion Forum Ambassadors that Bladrunner set up. Maybe look at what he tried and give a couple recommendations until you can make your own plan. As it is right now, the religion forums are falling further down the **** hole every day.

My program is different than forum ambassadors but im setting it up entirely after this tourney finishes

It could very well be entirely different, but the other program is there now (falling apart, but there). You could easily give a couple recommendations to those that are part of that program to try and stabilize the religion forum temporarily, until you can get your plan in action. I understand that there are other things (tournaments, polls, opinions, voting, etc.), but those other things will still exist in a couple months. At the rate that the religion forums are falling, there won't be a religion forum that is worth saving in a couple months.
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12/23/2014 10:55:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/23/2014 10:04:07 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 12/23/2014 10:00:57 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/23/2014 10:00:17 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:31:40 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I have been in contact with people trying to set out a plan. That is further down the road, but I already asked mirza and he declined because of real life situations. Someone will fill in when I actually set the program to start

Even if it is further down the road, it would not be hard to contact the Religion Forum Ambassadors that Bladrunner set up. Maybe look at what he tried and give a couple recommendations until you can make your own plan. As it is right now, the religion forums are falling further down the **** hole every day.

My program is different than forum ambassadors but im setting it up entirely after this tourney finishes

It could very well be entirely different, but the other program is there now (falling apart, but there). You could easily give a couple recommendations to those that are part of that program to try and stabilize the religion forum temporarily, until you can get your plan in action. I understand that there are other things (tournaments, polls, opinions, voting, etc.), but those other things will still exist in a couple months. At the rate that the religion forums are falling, there won't be a religion forum that is worth saving in a couple months.

I don't think there is a religious forum worth saving right NOW, let alone in a couple months....
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12/23/2014 11:01:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/23/2014 10:55:36 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/23/2014 10:04:07 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 12/23/2014 10:00:57 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/23/2014 10:00:17 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:31:40 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I have been in contact with people trying to set out a plan. That is further down the road, but I already asked mirza and he declined because of real life situations. Someone will fill in when I actually set the program to start

Even if it is further down the road, it would not be hard to contact the Religion Forum Ambassadors that Bladrunner set up. Maybe look at what he tried and give a couple recommendations until you can make your own plan. As it is right now, the religion forums are falling further down the **** hole every day.

My program is different than forum ambassadors but im setting it up entirely after this tourney finishes

It could very well be entirely different, but the other program is there now (falling apart, but there). You could easily give a couple recommendations to those that are part of that program to try and stabilize the religion forum temporarily, until you can get your plan in action. I understand that there are other things (tournaments, polls, opinions, voting, etc.), but those other things will still exist in a couple months. At the rate that the religion forums are falling, there won't be a religion forum that is worth saving in a couple months.

I don't think there is a religious forum worth saving right NOW, let alone in a couple months....

With the influx of newer members on that forum that do not know jack, and some good members leaving (envisage), you might be right. I do, however, think that it has a chance at this point. In a couple months, it will not.
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12/23/2014 11:10:30 PM
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At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I understand the religion forum is a bash fest and a pulpit for trolls, but how would one
"fix" it?
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12/23/2014 11:13:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/23/2014 11:10:30 PM, Kyle_the_Heretic wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I understand the religion forum is a bash fest and a pulpit for trolls, but how would one
"fix" it?

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12/23/2014 11:13:18 PM
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At 12/23/2014 11:10:30 PM, Kyle_the_Heretic wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I understand the religion forum is a bash fest and a pulpit for trolls, but how would one
"fix" it?

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12/23/2014 11:17:06 PM
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At 12/23/2014 11:13:18 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 12/23/2014 11:10:30 PM, Kyle_the_Heretic wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I understand the religion forum is a bash fest and a pulpit for trolls, but how would one
"fix" it?

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12/23/2014 11:17:36 PM
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At 12/23/2014 11:17:06 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 12/23/2014 11:13:18 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 12/23/2014 11:10:30 PM, Kyle_the_Heretic wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I understand the religion forum is a bash fest and a pulpit for trolls, but how would one
"fix" it?

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12/23/2014 11:25:10 PM
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At 12/23/2014 11:17:36 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 12/23/2014 11:17:06 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 12/23/2014 11:13:18 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 12/23/2014 11:10:30 PM, Kyle_the_Heretic wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I understand the religion forum is a bash fest and a pulpit for trolls, but how would one
"fix" it?

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12/23/2014 11:41:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/23/2014 11:10:30 PM, Kyle_the_Heretic wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I understand the religion forum is a bash fest and a pulpit for trolls, but how would one
"fix" it?

Short run, something similar to the RFA. Long run, make it so you can be banned from certain sections of the forums. When members start trolling too much, ban them from the religion section for a certain period of time (maybe forever). When people cause flame wars too much, ban them. You can also give out warnings. Have a group similar to the RFA to monitor the situation.
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12/24/2014 2:42:37 AM
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At 12/23/2014 9:31:40 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I have been in contact with people trying to set out a plan. That is further down the road, but I already asked mirza and he declined because of real life situations. Someone will fill in when I actually set the program to start

Fuckk mirza. Old azz nigga. Did you forget that he supported Blade? No point pretending to be friend with someone who didn't even support you bro. Like I said, fuckk Mirza.
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12/24/2014 8:03:39 AM
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At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

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12/24/2014 8:08:13 AM
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At 12/23/2014 10:04:07 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 12/23/2014 10:00:57 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/23/2014 10:00:17 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:31:40 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 12/23/2014 9:17:50 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Mikal told me in PM while he was running that he had plans for the religion forum, and did not plan on removing the religion forum ambassador program. If this is true, then why has Mikal not yet made a single comment about the religion forum ambassadors? Why have I not seen anything close to a plan to help fix the religion forum?

I have been in contact with people trying to set out a plan. That is further down the road, but I already asked mirza and he declined because of real life situations. Someone will fill in when I actually set the program to start

Even if it is further down the road, it would not be hard to contact the Religion Forum Ambassadors that Bladrunner set up. Maybe look at what he tried and give a couple recommendations until you can make your own plan. As it is right now, the religion forums are falling further down the **** hole every day.

My program is different than forum ambassadors but im setting it up entirely after this tourney finishes

It could very well be entirely different, but the other program is there now (falling apart, but there). You could easily give a couple recommendations to those that are part of that program to try and stabilize the religion forum temporarily, until you can get your plan in action. I understand that there are other things (tournaments, polls, opinions, voting, etc.), but those other things will still exist in a couple months. At the rate that the religion forums are falling, there won't be a religion forum that is worth saving in a couple months.

A few things:

(1) Bladerunner's program, as I understand it, was mostly run by bsh and mirza. Bsh stepped down as VP due to real life commitments. Mirza told Mikal that he is too busy with real life stuff to oversee the program, which ironically would be true even if blade had been elected. I don't know the remaining forum ambassadors are that you want us to reach out to. Let us know.

(2) The ambassador program, as Mirza described it during the election, was mostly aimed at stopping *fights* in the religion forum. It did not have specific plans for improving *content* in that forum. What you're asking for is a brand new initiative from the one blade set up, so it's going to take time to get going.

(3) Are you offering to be part of an initiative to start one good post in the religion forum per day and comment on it? If so, great, we'll include you in any future program. If not, the program is doomed to fail because everyone wants a better religion forum, but no one wants to take their own personal time to have more substantive and productive discussions about religion in that forum. Honestly, few people frequent the forums outside the "debate.org" forum. It's a problem endemic to almost all the forums, not just religion. Religion just gets the most hate because there is more *bad* content there; not just a lack of content.

(4) Your assertion that the religion forum will be "beyond saving" soon does not make sense. It's been bad for *years*, so your point is kind of non-unique, and anyway, a forum is not like a patient in a hospital. It cannot become "beyond saving" if you wait too long. It will just continue to be what it is now until someone fixes it.

(5) Airmax has also discussed another issue which might fix *some* of the problems in the religion forum. More details to come later.
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12/24/2014 8:10:12 AM
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At 12/24/2014 8:07:56 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I nominate myself for Religious Forum Ambassador.

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12/24/2014 8:12:54 AM
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At 12/24/2014 8:10:12 AM, DarthVitiosus wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:07:56 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I nominate myself for Religious Forum Ambassador.

Seconded! Don't let us down.