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YYW
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12/26/2014 12:31:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
We are a debate site. We debate subjects that interest us, and we discuss them in the forums. That's what we do. We come because we share an interest in contemporary events, and a desire to discuss them with people who are similarly interested. We stay because we make friends with the people we talk about stuff with. That's what this site is all about.

DDO is about stupid petty conspiracy theories that are based on nothing. DDO is not about stupid, petty forum drama that pisses everyone off except the agents of chaos who propagate it. DDO is not about the petty, bitchy whining that I've seen even from once-respectable members whose only claim to fame is talk about how far the site has fallen.

I have blocked more people in the past month than I have in the entire three and a half years I've been a member of this site. That's sad. People who were once good members seem to have lost their minds after this election. Maybe it's something in the air.... like the hangover from this election.

Mikal won. There will be another election in six months, probably. If you don't like things as they are, that's ok... but realize that this is temporary. There has been a lot of talk of abolishing the presidency, and other absurd knee-jerk reactions that have been just as damaging to the site. Knee jerk reactions are *bad.* It's bad when one member calls to end the presidency after a campaign. It's bad when some of our best members have to leave the site because this place has become so hostile. It's worse when I can't even log on to DDO on Christmas Eve without seeing idiotic attack threads.

All of this is stupid, and we all agree that it's bad, so we've got to change it. Some people are more to blame than others, too... but blaming here isn't really going to get us where we want to be. Complaining about the outcome of the election isn't going to change anything. Idiotic conspiracy theories based on nothing are only going to make it worse.

DDO has become hostile to the point that it's almost radioactive, and that has to change, or people are going to continue to leave and the community we have here is going to fade away. Our best are going to leave and go on to do other things, because this place isn't going to be fun anymore.

2015 is very close. Regardless of whether you agree with the reasons that sh!t's fvcked, we can agree that sh!t's fvcked, and we can move forward from that basis. Let's try to unfvck it.
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12/26/2014 12:33:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 12:31:12 PM, YYW wrote:
2015 is very close. Regardless of whether you agree with the reasons that sh!t's fvcked, we can agree that sh!t's fvcked, and we can move forward from that basis. Let's try to unfvck it.
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RevNge
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12/26/2014 12:38:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 12:31:12 PM, YYW wrote:
Mikal won. There will be another election in six months, probably.

HELL NAW

*deactivates account in election season*
SebUK
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12/26/2014 12:39:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Sounds like a good aim for 2015.
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12/26/2014 12:47:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I quite agree, actually, though you do have to admit that the majority of the active user base also subliminally enjoys basking in all of DDO's more fruitful drama.

It is only at the point when the drama becomes so stupid and volatile that it is more annoying than entertaining that people will begin to complain about it and push for reformation. That's a tad hypocritical on all of our parts, judging we were the ones who brought it to that extent in the first place.
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YYW
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12/26/2014 12:57:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 12:47:54 PM, Daltonian wrote:
I quite agree, actually, though you do have to admit that the majority of the active user base also subliminally enjoys basking in all of DDO's more fruitful drama.

It is only at the point when the drama becomes so stupid and volatile that it is more annoying than entertaining that people will begin to complain about it and push for reformation. That's a tad hypocritical on all of our parts, judging we were the ones who brought it to that extent in the first place.

Cheers.
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YYW
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12/26/2014 1:06:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
And this is the thing... there are a *lot* of good people on DDO.

Bsh1
1harder
Airmax
Thett
Bladerunner
Dalt
Annie
Mikal
Bluesteel
Crypto
Cody
16k
Zaradi
Donald.Keller
dtaylor
Romanii, Denny, Defro (who are unfortunately gone now)
Cermank
Wylted
Kahos
Pots
TUF
Liz
Cyber
Phantom
Tyler
Ore
Ryuu
Linkish

...and the list goes on.

With all of these good people, it stands to reason that we can move forward... ya know?
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TUF
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12/26/2014 1:18:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I think a lot of the drama we have been seeing will survive. People get angry and emotional over things and react at something initially, but once things calm down and people realize that things really aren't going to change over the election, things will simmer back into place. I have seen many people say they will leave, and sometimes they do as one of those "knee-jerk" reactions you were referring too. But at most they will come back frequently. Most of the respectable members you mentioned, for example, I don't think would be too effected by something like this to leave permanently.

But I agree with everything you've said. I don't think it will last much longer though.
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12/26/2014 1:25:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
That moment when Khaos, The Fool and Wylted get listed and you're left salty as f**k.
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Chuz-Life
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12/26/2014 1:40:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 1:25:06 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
That moment when Khaos, The Fool and Wylted get listed and you're left salty as f**k.

Makes you wonder what the criteria is for making the list.

Doesn't it.
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12/26/2014 1:43:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 1:08:30 PM, YYW wrote:
Add to that list:

Kbub
TheFool
Ragnar
etc...

How do you decide who goes on the list?
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12/26/2014 1:49:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 1:43:17 PM, SamStevens wrote:
How do you decide who goes on the list?
I'm fairly sure he didn't have any set criterion - just nice people who came to mind when crafting it. You would probably qualify in this regard, so don't fret :)
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YYW
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12/26/2014 1:59:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 1:25:06 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
That moment when Khaos, The Fool and Wylted get listed and you're left salty as f**k.

Look, those are the people that immediately came to mind. The whole "etc." thing should have implied that the list wasn't exclusive.
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12/26/2014 3:26:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 1:06:55 PM, YYW wrote:
And this is the thing... there are a *lot* of good people on DDO.

Bsh1
1harder
Airmax
Thett
Bladerunner
Dalt
Annie
Mikal
Bluesteel
Crypto
Cody
16k
Zaradi
Donald.Keller
dtaylor
Romanii, Denny, Defro (who are unfortunately gone now)

Wait, when did Denny leave?
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TUF
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12/26/2014 3:28:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 1:25:06 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
That moment when Khaos, The Fool and Wylted get listed and you're left salty as f**k.

You might be missing the point of this thread ;-)
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12/26/2014 3:29:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 1:06:55 PM, YYW wrote:
And this is the thing... there are a *lot* of good people on DDO.

Bsh1
1harder
Airmax
Thett
Bladerunner
Dalt
Annie
Mikal
Bluesteel
Crypto
Cody
16k
Zaradi
Donald.Keller
dtaylor
Romanii, Denny, Defro (who are unfortunately gone now)
Cermank
Wylted
Kahos
Pots
TUF
Liz
Cyber
Phantom
Tyler
Ore
Ryuu
Linkish

...and the list goes on.

With all of these good people, it stands to reason that we can move forward... ya know?

*cries*
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12/26/2014 3:30:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 1:08:30 PM, YYW wrote:
Add to that list:

Kbub
TheFool
Ragnar
etc...

*cries even more*
1harderthanyouthink
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12/26/2014 3:30:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 3:29:51 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 12/26/2014 1:06:55 PM, YYW wrote:
And this is the thing... there are a *lot* of good people on DDO.

Bsh1
1harder
Airmax
Thett
Bladerunner
Dalt
Annie
Mikal
Bluesteel
Crypto
Cody
16k
Zaradi
Donald.Keller
dtaylor
Romanii, Denny, Defro (who are unfortunately gone now)
Cermank
Wylted
Kahos
Pots
TUF
Liz
Cyber
Phantom
Tyler
Ore
Ryuu
Linkish

...and the list goes on.

With all of these good people, it stands to reason that we can move forward... ya know?

*cries*

Lol I was just about to say not to let (you) see that list.
"It's awfully considerate of you to think of me here,
And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."

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RevNge
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12/26/2014 3:31:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 1:06:55 PM, YYW wrote:
Romanii, Denny, Defro (who are unfortunately gone now)

I think Defro's staying, actually.
RevNge
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12/26/2014 3:32:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 3:30:38 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 12/26/2014 3:29:51 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 12/26/2014 1:06:55 PM, YYW wrote:
And this is the thing... there are a *lot* of good people on DDO.

Bsh1
1harder
Airmax
Thett
Bladerunner
Dalt
Annie
Mikal
Bluesteel
Crypto
Cody
16k
Zaradi
Donald.Keller
dtaylor
Romanii, Denny, Defro (who are unfortunately gone now)
Cermank
Wylted
Kahos
Pots
TUF
Liz
Cyber
Phantom
Tyler
Ore
Ryuu
Linkish

...and the list goes on.

With all of these good people, it stands to reason that we can move forward... ya know?

*cries*

Lol I was just about to say not to let (you) see that list.

;_; Am I that inconspicuous?
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12/26/2014 3:59:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 3:32:27 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 12/26/2014 3:30:38 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 12/26/2014 3:29:51 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 12/26/2014 1:06:55 PM, YYW wrote:
And this is the thing... there are a *lot* of good people on DDO.

Bsh1
1harder
Airmax
Thett
Bladerunner
Dalt
Annie
Mikal
Bluesteel
Crypto
Cody
16k
Zaradi
Donald.Keller
dtaylor
Romanii, Denny, Defro (who are unfortunately gone now)
Cermank
Wylted
Kahos
Pots
TUF
Liz
Cyber
Phantom
Tyler
Ore
Ryuu
Linkish

...and the list goes on.

With all of these good people, it stands to reason that we can move forward... ya know?

*cries*

Lol I was just about to say not to let (you) see that list.

;_; Am I that inconspicuous?

Don't worry babe. I <3 u!
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

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In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
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MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

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12/26/2014 4:00:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 3:59:46 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 12/26/2014 3:32:27 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 12/26/2014 3:30:38 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 12/26/2014 3:29:51 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 12/26/2014 1:06:55 PM, YYW wrote:
And this is the thing... there are a *lot* of good people on DDO.

Bsh1
1harder
Airmax
Thett
Bladerunner
Dalt
Annie
Mikal
Bluesteel
Crypto
Cody
16k
Zaradi
Donald.Keller
dtaylor
Romanii, Denny, Defro (who are unfortunately gone now)
Cermank
Wylted
Kahos
Pots
TUF
Liz
Cyber
Phantom
Tyler
Ore
Ryuu
Linkish

...and the list goes on.

With all of these good people, it stands to reason that we can move forward... ya know?

*cries*

Lol I was just about to say not to let (you) see that list.

;_; Am I that inconspicuous?

Don't worry babe. I <3 u!

<3
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12/26/2014 4:01:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 4:00:11 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 12/26/2014 3:59:46 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 12/26/2014 3:32:27 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 12/26/2014 3:30:38 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 12/26/2014 3:29:51 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 12/26/2014 1:06:55 PM, YYW wrote:
And this is the thing... there are a *lot* of good people on DDO.

Bsh1
1harder
Airmax
Thett
Bladerunner
Dalt
Annie
Mikal
Bluesteel
Crypto
Cody
16k
Zaradi
Donald.Keller
dtaylor
Romanii, Denny, Defro (who are unfortunately gone now)
Cermank
Wylted
Kahos
Pots
TUF
Liz
Cyber
Phantom
Tyler
Ore
Ryuu
Linkish

...and the list goes on.

With all of these good people, it stands to reason that we can move forward... ya know?

*cries*

Lol I was just about to say not to let (you) see that list.

;_; Am I that inconspicuous?

Don't worry babe. I <3 u!

<3

inb4 Rev breaks the thread because he realized what I called him. xD
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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12/26/2014 4:16:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Guys. It's just the first people he thought of. No point in getting upset about being left off. It's not exclusive or even anywhere near complete. It was simply making a point that DDO has users who positively impact the site.
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12/26/2014 4:20:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
reality check...I see what you did there.
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YYW
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12/26/2014 9:38:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Other people Wrote at some time earlier today...

*Notices that YYW didn't include me in his list of good members*

*concludes that YYW hates me*
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ESocialBookworm
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12/26/2014 9:42:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
*adds to list*
Every person I know.
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.