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6/30/2010 10:38:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I would like everyone here to give a good hardy welcome, to my new friend, and soon to be yours, anarchistsoldier!

Okay, anarchistsoldier, please introduce yourself.
"What we really ought to ask the liberal, before we even begin addressing his agenda, is this: In what kind of society would he be a conservative?" - Joseph Sobran
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6/30/2010 10:43:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
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6/30/2010 10:48:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 10:47:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
What kind of anarchist, exactly? If he's anything like most of the anarchists on here, he'll be some kind of weird socialist something-or-other.

Since he came from Reasoning he's probably an Ancap.
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6/30/2010 10:49:07 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I should bring a few of my Anarchist friends.

Heck, I have almost 2,000 FB friends, I could take over DDO.
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6/30/2010 10:50:30 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 10:48:10 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:47:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
What kind of anarchist, exactly? If he's anything like most of the anarchists on here, he'll be some kind of weird socialist something-or-other.

Since he came from Reasoning he's probably an Ancap.

Reasoning isn't a capitalist.
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6/30/2010 10:53:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 10:50:30 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:48:10 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:47:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
What kind of anarchist, exactly? If he's anything like most of the anarchists on here, he'll be some kind of weird socialist something-or-other.

Since he came from Reasoning he's probably an Ancap.

Reasoning isn't a capitalist.

He's a complicated combination of both. The only thing Socialist he believes in is Worker-self-management.
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6/30/2010 11:00:05 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 10:53:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:50:30 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:48:10 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:47:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
What kind of anarchist, exactly? If he's anything like most of the anarchists on here, he'll be some kind of weird socialist something-or-other.

Since he came from Reasoning he's probably an Ancap.

Reasoning isn't a capitalist.

He's a complicated combination of both. The only thing Socialist he believes in is Worker-self-management.

According to your personal definition of socialism, what else is there (since you can't have State Socialism).
AnarchistSoldier
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6/30/2010 11:02:44 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I believe in a complete laissez faire market. I believe in limitless rights, so long you don't infringe upon anyone else's. I believe every man owns their body and property.
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6/30/2010 11:02:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 11:00:05 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:53:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:50:30 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:48:10 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:47:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
What kind of anarchist, exactly? If he's anything like most of the anarchists on here, he'll be some kind of weird socialist something-or-other.

Since he came from Reasoning he's probably an Ancap.

Reasoning isn't a capitalist.

He's a complicated combination of both. The only thing Socialist he believes in is Worker-self-management.

According to your personal definition of socialism, what else is there (since you can't have State Socialism).

Yes, I know. I agree he is not Capitalist, he is Socialist. I'm just saying that he doesn't accept other policies that other Socialists almost always support. As such, and from what I have seen on facebook, he seems to have largely Ancap friends.
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6/30/2010 11:04:05 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 11:02:44 PM, AnarchistSoldier wrote:
I believe in a complete laissez faire market. I believe in limitless rights, so long you don't infringe upon anyone else's. I believe every man owns their body and property.

I believe in the same but accept a different theory of property.
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6/30/2010 11:04:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 11:02:50 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:00:05 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:53:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:50:30 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:48:10 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:47:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
What kind of anarchist, exactly? If he's anything like most of the anarchists on here, he'll be some kind of weird socialist something-or-other.

Since he came from Reasoning he's probably an Ancap.

Reasoning isn't a capitalist.

He's a complicated combination of both. The only thing Socialist he believes in is Worker-self-management.

According to your personal definition of socialism, what else is there (since you can't have State Socialism).

Yes, I know. I agree he is not Capitalist, he is Socialist. I'm just saying that he doesn't accept other policies that other Socialists almost always support. As such, and from what I have seen on facebook, he seems to have largely Ancap friends.

No, it was an actual question. What other policies are you talking about?
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6/30/2010 11:07:49 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 11:04:33 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:02:50 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:00:05 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:53:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:50:30 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:48:10 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:47:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
What kind of anarchist, exactly? If he's anything like most of the anarchists on here, he'll be some kind of weird socialist something-or-other.

Since he came from Reasoning he's probably an Ancap.

Reasoning isn't a capitalist.

He's a complicated combination of both. The only thing Socialist he believes in is Worker-self-management.

According to your personal definition of socialism, what else is there (since you can't have State Socialism).

Yes, I know. I agree he is not Capitalist, he is Socialist. I'm just saying that he doesn't accept other policies that other Socialists almost always support. As such, and from what I have seen on facebook, he seems to have largely Ancap friends.

No, it was an actual question. What other policies are you talking about?

Universalization of basic human needs.
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6/30/2010 11:10:17 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 11:07:49 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:04:33 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:02:50 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:00:05 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:53:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:50:30 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:48:10 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:47:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
What kind of anarchist, exactly? If he's anything like most of the anarchists on here, he'll be some kind of weird socialist something-or-other.

Since he came from Reasoning he's probably an Ancap.

Reasoning isn't a capitalist.

He's a complicated combination of both. The only thing Socialist he believes in is Worker-self-management.

According to your personal definition of socialism, what else is there (since you can't have State Socialism).

Yes, I know. I agree he is not Capitalist, he is Socialist. I'm just saying that he doesn't accept other policies that other Socialists almost always support. As such, and from what I have seen on facebook, he seems to have largely Ancap friends.

No, it was an actual question. What other policies are you talking about?

Universalization of basic human needs.

Ohhh. The whole "give everyone what they need, regardless of whomever you must take it from"? Gotcha.
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6/30/2010 11:11:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 11:10:17 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:07:49 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:04:33 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:02:50 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:00:05 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:53:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:50:30 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:48:10 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:47:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
What kind of anarchist, exactly? If he's anything like most of the anarchists on here, he'll be some kind of weird socialist something-or-other.

Since he came from Reasoning he's probably an Ancap.

Reasoning isn't a capitalist.

He's a complicated combination of both. The only thing Socialist he believes in is Worker-self-management.

According to your personal definition of socialism, what else is there (since you can't have State Socialism).

Yes, I know. I agree he is not Capitalist, he is Socialist. I'm just saying that he doesn't accept other policies that other Socialists almost always support. As such, and from what I have seen on facebook, he seems to have largely Ancap friends.

No, it was an actual question. What other policies are you talking about?

Universalization of basic human needs.

Ohhh. The whole "give everyone what they need, regardless of whomever you must take it from"? Gotcha.

No, that's the statist version. For Anarchists it's more like insurance.
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6/30/2010 11:14:01 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
This thread is supposed to be about anarchistsoldier, not me. So shut up. :P
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6/30/2010 11:14:25 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I don't want to turn this thread into a debate though. I hate it when people get off topic in my own threads.
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6/30/2010 11:14:38 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 11:11:37 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:10:17 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:07:49 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:04:33 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:02:50 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:00:05 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:53:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:50:30 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:48:10 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:47:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
What kind of anarchist, exactly? If he's anything like most of the anarchists on here, he'll be some kind of weird socialist something-or-other.

Since he came from Reasoning he's probably an Ancap.

Reasoning isn't a capitalist.

He's a complicated combination of both. The only thing Socialist he believes in is Worker-self-management.

According to your personal definition of socialism, what else is there (since you can't have State Socialism).

Yes, I know. I agree he is not Capitalist, he is Socialist. I'm just saying that he doesn't accept other policies that other Socialists almost always support. As such, and from what I have seen on facebook, he seems to have largely Ancap friends.

No, it was an actual question. What other policies are you talking about?

Universalization of basic human needs.

Ohhh. The whole "give everyone what they need, regardless of whomever you must take it from"? Gotcha.

No, that's the statist version. For Anarchists it's more like insurance.

The statist version is where the government forcibly takes the property of some men to fulfill the needs of others. The anarchist version involves the same intentions, with none of the means. :)
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6/30/2010 11:15:05 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 11:14:01 PM, Reasoning wrote:
This thread is supposed to be about anarchistsoldier, not me. So shut up. :P

Lol, you beat me to it.
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6/30/2010 11:17:29 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 11:14:38 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:11:37 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:10:17 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:07:49 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:04:33 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:02:50 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 11:00:05 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:53:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:50:30 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:48:10 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/30/2010 10:47:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
What kind of anarchist, exactly? If he's anything like most of the anarchists on here, he'll be some kind of weird socialist something-or-other.

Since he came from Reasoning he's probably an Ancap.

Reasoning isn't a capitalist.

He's a complicated combination of both. The only thing Socialist he believes in is Worker-self-management.

According to your personal definition of socialism, what else is there (since you can't have State Socialism).

Yes, I know. I agree he is not Capitalist, he is Socialist. I'm just saying that he doesn't accept other policies that other Socialists almost always support. As such, and from what I have seen on facebook, he seems to have largely Ancap friends.

No, it was an actual question. What other policies are you talking about?

Universalization of basic human needs.

Ohhh. The whole "give everyone what they need, regardless of whomever you must take it from"? Gotcha.

No, that's the statist version. For Anarchists it's more like insurance.

The statist version is where the government forcibly takes the property of some men to fulfill the needs of others. The anarchist version involves the same intentions, with none of the means. :)

I'm not going to continue the conversation past this, but I must say that it is not about giving to others, it is shaped around mutual-aid. Collectivization of basic needs is for self-interest.
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6/30/2010 11:19:12 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/30/2010 11:17:29 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I'm not going to continue the conversation past this, but I must say that it is not about giving to others, it is shaped around mutual-aid. Collectivization of basic needs is for self-interest.

I have no problem with mutual aid. In fact, I consider it an absolutely necessity for a good society.
"What we really ought to ask the liberal, before we even begin addressing his agenda, is this: In what kind of society would he be a conservative?" - Joseph Sobran
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6/30/2010 11:22:18 PM
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At 6/30/2010 11:19:35 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
On an unrelated note, I'm thinking about finally changing my avatar from the bear in the suit, despite my having had it during the entirety of my tenure here.

The Cody Franklin I always imagine is a bear in the cutest little lavender suit debating something in front of a bunch of people.
"What we really ought to ask the liberal, before we even begin addressing his agenda, is this: In what kind of society would he be a conservative?" - Joseph Sobran