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2/9/2015 10:04:06 AM
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2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.
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2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.
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2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid
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2/9/2015 10:45:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid
Yeah... But rules are rules. I'm sure bulproof would have gotten the same if he had done it.
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2/9/2015 10:46:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:45:08 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid
Yeah... But rules are rules. I'm sure bulproof would have gotten the same if he had done it.

You mean "the whim of Airmax is rule". I think max does a great job generally but this was a really stupid and unfair decision
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2/9/2015 10:50:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid

Yeah man, I get mad all the time and kill people. Don't throw me in jail, I just did something stupid because I was mad.

I mean...
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2/9/2015 10:50:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:46:11 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:45:08 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid
Yeah... But rules are rules. I'm sure bulproof would have gotten the same if he had done it.

You mean "the whim of Airmax is rule". I think max does a great job generally but this was a really stupid and unfair decision

What do you mean? Both were banned. One broke that ban and according to the rules needed a permanent one. I don't understand how that is unfair.
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2/9/2015 10:51:35 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:46:11 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:45:08 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid
Yeah... But rules are rules. I'm sure bulproof would have gotten the same if he had done it.

You mean "the whim of Airmax is rule". I think max does a great job generally but this was a really stupid and unfair decision

How is it unfair? He broke more rules, and gets a longer ban for it. Multiaccounting to ignore bans is a pretty big issue.
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2/9/2015 10:51:53 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:50:55 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:46:11 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:45:08 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid
Yeah... But rules are rules. I'm sure bulproof would have gotten the same if he had done it.

You mean "the whim of Airmax is rule". I think max does a great job generally but this was a really stupid and unfair decision

What do you mean? Both were banned. One broke that ban and according to the rules needed a permanent one. I don't understand how that is unfair.

Where in the rules does it say that?
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2/9/2015 10:52:09 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:50:21 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid

Yeah man, I get mad all the time and kill people. Don't throw me in jail, I just did something stupid because I was mad.

I mean...

Don't be an idiot
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: At 11/12/2016 11:49:40 PM, Raisor wrote:
: thett was right
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2/9/2015 10:53:15 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:52:09 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:50:21 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid

Yeah man, I get mad all the time and kill people. Don't throw me in jail, I just did something stupid because I was mad.

I mean...

Don't be an idiot

It's an idiotic example, but the point is still valid.
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2/9/2015 10:53:39 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:51:35 AM, donald.keller wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:46:11 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:45:08 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid
Yeah... But rules are rules. I'm sure bulproof would have gotten the same if he had done it.

You mean "the whim of Airmax is rule". I think max does a great job generally but this was a really stupid and unfair decision

How is it unfair? He broke more rules, and gets a longer ban for it. Multiaccounting to ignore bans is a pretty big issue.

He was perm banned because he made an account to defend himself against what he viewed as false accusations. Again, my reaction is big deal. The fact that Max bans him permenantly for that when there are members who LITERALLY RAN OTHERS OFF THE SITE is just weird and annoying
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: At 11/12/2016 11:49:40 PM, Raisor wrote:
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2/9/2015 10:55:15 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:51:53 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:50:55 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:46:11 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:45:08 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid
Yeah... But rules are rules. I'm sure bulproof would have gotten the same if he had done it.

You mean "the whim of Airmax is rule". I think max does a great job generally but this was a really stupid and unfair decision

What do you mean? Both were banned. One broke that ban and according to the rules needed a permanent one. I don't understand how that is unfair.

Where in the rules does it say that?
I don't know, but Airmax said that was the policy in the huge argument thread.
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2/9/2015 10:55:39 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:46:11 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:45:08 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid
Yeah... But rules are rules. I'm sure bulproof would have gotten the same if he had done it.

You mean "the whim of Airmax is rule". I think max does a great job generally but this was a really stupid and unfair decision

In fact, the only thing that would be unfair is if he broke more rules but had the same punishment. That wouldn't be fair at all.
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2/9/2015 10:55:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:51:35 AM, donald.keller wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:46:11 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:45:08 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid
Yeah... But rules are rules. I'm sure bulproof would have gotten the same if he had done it.

You mean "the whim of Airmax is rule". I think max does a great job generally but this was a really stupid and unfair decision

How is it unfair? He broke more rules, and gets a longer ban for it. Multiaccounting to ignore bans is a pretty big issue.

I think it would be a big deal if he created a multi and tried to conceal it to actually avoid the ban for a long period of time, if I remember correctly he created it under practically the same name, he didn't pretend to be anyone besides himself, and he tried to directly defend himself from a thread where people were talking about him. It was less avoiding a ban and more getting a last word in, or so it seemed to me. That doesn't seem perma-ban worthy considering his original ban wasn't all that long.
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2/9/2015 10:55:59 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:51:53 AM, thett3 wrote:
Where in the rules does it say that?

It's implicit to a certain degree that evading a ban warrants a longer sentence, because if Max were to allow people to simply make a new account, the purpose of actually suspending an account becomes null. At least in my case--and I'm not sure if this was the case for neutral--I was told that making a new account would result in a permanent ban, so I'm inclined to think that Max was clear about this ahead of time.

I'm not even taking a side on the bulproof-neutral feud, because (1) I don't know what happened and (2) I think the religion forum is a god-awful bloody mess, anyway, and we'd be better off without it. But, so far as we know, bulproof didn't create a multiaccount, so by nature, his temp ban would expire, even if his sins (pun intended) were far worse than neutral's.
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2/9/2015 10:56:56 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:53:15 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:52:09 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:50:21 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:42:25 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:40:35 AM, mishapqueen wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:38:06 AM, thett3 wrote:
For the record, I think it's really unfair that this guy is unbanned but neutral remains banned.

Originally they had the same treatment but neutral broke his ban and created a new account.

I know. Big deal. The dude was mad and did something stupid

Yeah man, I get mad all the time and kill people. Don't throw me in jail, I just did something stupid because I was mad.

I mean...

Don't be an idiot

It's an idiotic example, but the point is still valid.

It's really not. Context is so important in crafting fair and proportionate punishments. This kind of blond legalistic approach has done horrible things to our society
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2/9/2015 10:59:15 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:55:59 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:51:53 AM, thett3 wrote:
Where in the rules does it say that?

It's implicit to a certain degree that evading a ban warrants a longer sentence, because if Max were to allow people to simply make a new account, the purpose of actually suspending an account becomes null. At least in my case--and I'm not sure if this was the case for neutral--I was told that making a new account would result in a permanent ban, so I'm inclined to think that Max was clear about this ahead of time.

I'm not even taking a side on the bulproof-neutral feud, because (1) I don't know what happened and (2) I think the religion forum is a god-awful bloody mess, anyway, and we'd be better off without it. But, so far as we know, bulproof didn't create a multiaccount, so by nature, his temp ban would expire, even if his sins (pun intended) were far worse than neutral's.

If it was made clear to neutral that making a new account was a straight perma ban than it was totally fair, but in this case (and in most cases) theres a lot of ambiguity in enforcing rules. Which is probably okay because this is just a website so we really shouldn't care too much about the bureaucracy.
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2/9/2015 10:59:17 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:55:59 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:51:53 AM, thett3 wrote:
Where in the rules does it say that?

It's implicit to a certain degree that evading a ban warrants a longer sentence, because if Max were to allow people to simply make a new account, the purpose of actually suspending an account becomes null. At least in my case--and I'm not sure if this was the case for neutral--I was told that making a new account would result in a permanent ban, so I'm inclined to think that Max was clear about this ahead of time.

I'm not even taking a side on the bulproof-neutral feud, because (1) I don't know what happened and (2) I think the religion forum is a god-awful bloody mess, anyway, and we'd be better off without it. But, so far as we know, bulproof didn't create a multiaccount, so by nature, his temp ban would expire, even if his sins (pun intended) were far worse than neutral's.

So again...the rules are whatever Airmax says they are
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2/9/2015 11:00:33 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/9/2015 10:59:17 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:55:59 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/9/2015 10:51:53 AM, thett3 wrote:
Where in the rules does it say that?

It's implicit to a certain degree that evading a ban warrants a longer sentence, because if Max were to allow people to simply make a new account, the purpose of actually suspending an account becomes null. At least in my case--and I'm not sure if this was the case for neutral--I was told that making a new account would result in a permanent ban, so I'm inclined to think that Max was clear about this ahead of time.

I'm not even taking a side on the bulproof-neutral feud, because (1) I don't know what happened and (2) I think the religion forum is a god-awful bloody mess, anyway, and we'd be better off without it. But, so far as we know, bulproof didn't create a multiaccount, so by nature, his temp ban would expire, even if his sins (pun intended) were far worse than neutral's.

So again...the rules are whatever Airmax says they are

Well, yeah. It's not as these he's creating these rules ex post facto. It was fairly well established even beforehand--and I think it would be by common sense, as well--that ban evasion ought to be discouraged, because it's a flagrant violation of the moderator's intent.
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