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2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I haven't ha a serious debate since God knows when. I want to do one. Problem is, I'm so apathetic about everything and I can't really think of a topic. If anyone has ever wanted a go at old thett, consider this the moment when my shirt is off and I'm yelling "come at me bro".

And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics
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2/19/2015 8:51:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Resolved: How many chainz could 2 Chainz chainz if 2 Chainz could chainz chainz?

I would be Pro, arguing for the answer '2'
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2/19/2015 9:12:14 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 8:51:36 PM, imabench wrote:
Resolved: How many chainz could 2 Chainz chainz if 2 Chainz could chainz chainz?

I would be Pro, arguing for the answer '2'

Did you hear that 2-Chainz got mugged?

He's now just Chain.

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2/19/2015 9:16:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
- Socrates ought to have consumed the hemlock. (Con)
- Pure rationalism is a sufficient explanation for the epistemological problem of infinite regress. (Con)
- In the United States, plea-bargaining in exchange for testimony is unjust. (Pro)
- The 'right to be forgotten' from Internet searches ought to be a civil right. (Pro/Con)
- Voluntary active euthanasia for terminally ill patients with a prognosis of 3 months or less to live is morally permissible. (Pro)
- On balance, romance is an important part of human flourishing. (Pro)
- The verification principle is sound. (Con)
- In the U.S., the majority has an ethical obligation to respect and maintain the cultural integrity of the minority. (Pro)
- Moral relativism (or some variant thereof) is a viable moral theory. (Pro)
- Libertarianism is a just paradigm for governance. (Con)
- Homegrown terror threats are a greater danger than foreign terror threats to the United States's homeland security (Pro)
- Just governments have an obligation to actively assist those in poverty. (Pro)
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2/19/2015 9:38:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM, thett3 wrote:
I haven't ha a serious debate since God knows when. I want to do one. Problem is, I'm so apathetic about everything and I can't really think of a topic. If anyone has ever wanted a go at old thett, consider this the moment when my shirt is off and I'm yelling "come at me bro".

And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics

We haven't debated since we did that populist party debate. Wanna spar again?
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2/19/2015 9:39:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
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2/19/2015 9:40:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Speech Challenge?
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2/19/2015 9:41:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 8:51:36 PM, imabench wrote:
Resolved: How many chainz could 2 Chainz chainz if 2 Chainz could chainz chainz?

I would be Pro, arguing for the answer '2'

Hmmm...

How many hairstyles could Harry Styles style if Harry Styles could style hairstyles?

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2/19/2015 9:44:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 9:40:06 PM, 1Historygenius wrote:
Speech Challenge?
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What would we be doing for a political ads challenge?
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2/19/2015 10:01:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 8:51:36 PM, imabench wrote:
Resolved: How many chainz could 2 Chainz chainz if 2 Chainz could chainz chainz?

I would be Pro, arguing for the answer '2'

There is no answer. 2chainz is beyond quantification
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2/19/2015 10:08:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM, thett3 wrote:
I haven't ha a serious debate since God knows when. I want to do one. Problem is, I'm so apathetic about everything and I can't really think of a topic. If anyone has ever wanted a go at old thett, consider this the moment when my shirt is off and I'm yelling "come at me bro".

And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics

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2/19/2015 10:11:08 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM, thett3 wrote:
I haven't ha a serious debate since God knows when. I want to do one. Problem is, I'm so apathetic about everything and I can't really think of a topic. If anyone has ever wanted a go at old thett, consider this the moment when my shirt is off and I'm yelling "come at me bro".

And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics
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Oppressive government is more desirable than no government. (Either)
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Resolved: When forced to choose, a just government ought to prioritize universal human rights over its national interest. (Pro)
Compulsory inclusion of non-felons' DNA in any government database is unjust. (Either)
Resolved: Military conscription is unjust. (Either)
Resolved: Limiting economic inequality ought to be a more important social goal than maximizing economic freedom. (Pro)
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2/19/2015 10:11:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 9:16:20 PM, bsh1 wrote:
- Socrates ought to have consumed the hemlock. (Con)

Meh.

- Pure rationalism is a sufficient explanation for the epistemological problem of infinite regress. (Con)

Too many big words

- In the United States, plea-bargaining in exchange for testimony is unjust. (Pro)

I generally agree. Plea bargaining has kinda wrecked the US justice system. To me, one of *the* most essential rights is that to be tried by a jury of your peers but these days it's more a burden than an asset, which is very sad.

- The 'right to be forgotten' from Internet searches ought to be a civil right. (Pro/Con)

No way...I don't wanna debate it though. See what I mean with the apathy?

- Voluntary active euthanasia for terminally ill patients with a prognosis of 3 months or less to live is morally permissible. (Pro)

Agreed.

- On balance, romance is an important part of human flourishing. (Pro)

Who could possibly disagree?

- The verification principle is sound. (Con)

Verification principle?

- In the U.S., the majority has an ethical obligation to respect and maintain the cultural integrity of the minority. (Pro)

wut...that doesn't even make sense. I mean, no offense. I would run so many ridiculous but effective arguments against that resolution, dude.

- Moral relativism (or some variant thereof) is a viable moral theory. (Pro)

Ehh...I have a weird view on that. Basically I'm undecided.

- Libertarianism is a just paradigm for governance. (Con)

Come on, Bsh. I'm an adult.

- Homegrown terror threats are a greater danger than foreign terror threats to the United States's homeland security (Pro)

lolno.

- Just governments have an obligation to actively assist those in poverty. (Pro)

You know, up until a few weeks ago I would've disagreed but I read a blog post that turned me around. Basically, the author argued that it isn't as simple as "work hard, get ahead" anymore, and modernity has taken vast amounts of people who, in an earlier era, would have lived useful and fulfilling lives farming or hunting or whatever, and created a society that relies upon skills they simple don't have. As we progress, there becomes something of an intelligence cutoff for who can contribute economically and some people just don't have what it takes. Modernity has made everything a million times better for those who could participate, but for those who can't..."society" probably does owe them, in some way, for taking away their usefulness.

And, the author warned, we'd better establish this principle quickly because as automation and AI gets increasingly more effective...we'll all be outdated sooner or later.
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2/19/2015 10:11:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 9:38:34 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM, thett3 wrote:
I haven't ha a serious debate since God knows when. I want to do one. Problem is, I'm so apathetic about everything and I can't really think of a topic. If anyone has ever wanted a go at old thett, consider this the moment when my shirt is off and I'm yelling "come at me bro".

And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics

We haven't debated since we did that populist party debate. Wanna spar again?

Sure, over what?
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"You fit the character of Regina George quite nicely"- Sam

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: thett was right
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2/19/2015 10:12:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 9:40:06 PM, 1Historygenius wrote:
Speech Challenge?
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Lol I think you may be able to best me pretty easily in that arena...I actually don't know many political ads other than the really famous ones like We Like Ike or Democratic Daisy
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2/19/2015 10:12:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 10:11:38 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 9:38:34 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM, thett3 wrote:
I haven't ha a serious debate since God knows when. I want to do one. Problem is, I'm so apathetic about everything and I can't really think of a topic. If anyone has ever wanted a go at old thett, consider this the moment when my shirt is off and I'm yelling "come at me bro".

And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics

We haven't debated since we did that populist party debate. Wanna spar again?

Sure, over what?

Not sure, do you have any ideas?
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2/19/2015 10:14:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 10:08:19 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM, thett3 wrote:
I haven't ha a serious debate since God knows when. I want to do one. Problem is, I'm so apathetic about everything and I can't really think of a topic. If anyone has ever wanted a go at old thett, consider this the moment when my shirt is off and I'm yelling "come at me bro".

And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics

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Resolved: Theism is more rational than Atheism (Con)
Resolved: Agnosticism is the most logical religious position (pro)

I don't debate religion, sorry. I have pretty weird religious views

Resolved: Utilitarianism is sound (pro)

Maybe. I think the real truth if there is any is something in between. Intent matters, but so does result.

Resolved: Kantian Dentology is sound (pro)

Lol I sense a little devils advocate here. I would find it easier to attack Kantian ethics than Util, I think, but only just.
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2/19/2015 10:14:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 8:51:36 PM, imabench wrote:
Resolved: How many chainz could 2 Chainz chainz if 2 Chainz could chainz chainz?

Did you know that 2 Chainz got robbed. Now, he is 1 chain.

I would be Pro, arguing for the answer '2'
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2/19/2015 10:17:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 10:11:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 9:16:20 PM, bsh1 wrote:
- Pure rationalism is a sufficient explanation for the epistemological problem of infinite regress. (Con)

Too many big words

Lol...

- The 'right to be forgotten' from Internet searches ought to be a civil right. (Pro/Con)

No way...I don't wanna debate it though. See what I mean with the apathy?

There has to be something you want to debate...

- On balance, romance is an important part of human flourishing. (Pro)

Who could possibly disagree?

Annie. Endark. Others.

- Libertarianism is a just paradigm for governance. (Con)

Come on, Bsh. I'm an adult.

Rofl...

- Homegrown terror threats are a greater danger than foreign terror threats to the United States's homeland security (Pro)

lolno.

Why not?

- Just governments have an obligation to actively assist those in poverty. (Pro)

You know, up until a few weeks ago I would've disagreed but I read a blog post that turned me around. Basically, the author argued that it isn't as simple as "work hard, get ahead" anymore, and modernity has taken vast amounts of people who, in an earlier era, would have lived useful and fulfilling lives farming or hunting or whatever, and created a society that relies upon skills they simple don't have. As we progress, there becomes something of an intelligence cutoff for who can contribute economically and some people just don't have what it takes. Modernity has made everything a million times better for those who could participate, but for those who can't..."society" probably does owe them, in some way, for taking away their usefulness.

And, the author warned, we'd better establish this principle quickly because as automation and AI gets increasingly more effective...we'll all be outdated sooner or later.

That's really interesting, actually.
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2/19/2015 10:17:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 10:11:08 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM, thett3 wrote:
I haven't ha a serious debate since God knows when. I want to do one. Problem is, I'm so apathetic about everything and I can't really think of a topic. If anyone has ever wanted a go at old thett, consider this the moment when my shirt is off and I'm yelling "come at me bro".

And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics
Resolved: The United States ought to prioritize the pursuit of national security objectives above the digital privacy of its citizens. (pro)

I'd probably take that....maybe.

Oppressive government is more desirable than no government. (Either)

Lol you should read my debates with Zaradi or (I think I ran the same args) Royal on that topic. I'm a complete douchebag and define government in an...interesting way, that allows me to establish something around 1000 years of Western history as being without a government

- Resolved: A government has the obligation to lessen the economic gap between its rich and poor citizens. (Pro)

Con if you're going to argue that as a principle. I think there may be some obligations the government has that inadvertently lessen the gap without that being the explicit intent (welfare for example). But lessen the economic gap just for sh1ts and giggles? Nah.

Resolved: When forced to choose, a just government ought to prioritize universal human rights over its national interest. (Pro)

What's a national interest? If UHC is good policy, wouldn't it be a governments national interest?

Compulsory inclusion of non-felons' DNA in any government database is unjust. (Either)

meh

Resolved: Military conscription is unjust. (Either)

I could take either on this too, although I think I'd prefer Pro.

Resolved: Limiting economic inequality ought to be a more important social goal than maximizing economic freedom. (Pro)

Hmm....*that* could be a fun topic.
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2/19/2015 10:19:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 10:14:06 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:08:19 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM, thett3 wrote:
I haven't ha a serious debate since God knows when. I want to do one. Problem is, I'm so apathetic about everything and I can't really think of a topic. If anyone has ever wanted a go at old thett, consider this the moment when my shirt is off and I'm yelling "come at me bro".

And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics

Resolved: Jesus is the Messiah (Con)
Pecability vs. Inpeccability of Christ (Impeccability)
Resolved: Theism is more rational than Atheism (Con)
Resolved: Agnosticism is the most logical religious position (pro)

I don't debate religion, sorry. I have pretty weird religious views
Resolved: Thett's Religious Views are sound (con)
What do you debate, then?

Resolved: Utilitarianism is sound (pro)

Maybe. I think the real truth if there is any is something in between. Intent matters, but so does result.
Me too

Resolved: Kantian Dentology is sound (pro)

Lol I sense a little devils advocate here. I would find it easier to attack Kantian ethics than Util, I think, but only just.
Interesting, I find that people attack Util more so than Kantian ethics.
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2/19/2015 10:22:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM, thett3 wrote:
And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics

DAMN IT.
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2/19/2015 10:22:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 10:17:20 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:11:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 9:16:20 PM, bsh1 wrote:
- Pure rationalism is a sufficient explanation for the epistemological problem of infinite regress. (Con)

Too many big words

Lol...

I mean, that was a joke but I honestly don't know what that means. I'm very poorly versed in philosophy that isn't political in nature

- The 'right to be forgotten' from Internet searches ought to be a civil right. (Pro/Con)

No way...I don't wanna debate it though. See what I mean with the apathy?

There has to be something you want to debate...

Well, there's been a topic that's been captivating me for at least two years and it's been the rise of the state in western society. It's just hard to formulate a resolution that revolves around that...my individualism debate was kinda about that.

- On balance, romance is an important part of human flourishing. (Pro)

Who could possibly disagree?

Annie. Endark. Others.

If they actually disagree they certainly don't act like it

- Libertarianism is a just paradigm for governance. (Con)

Come on, Bsh. I'm an adult.

Rofl...

- Homegrown terror threats are a greater danger than foreign terror threats to the United States's homeland security (Pro)

lolno.

Why not?

Cuz like it did in your debate with Whiteflame, it will come down to which should be viewed as a more current threat and just...meh

- Just governments have an obligation to actively assist those in poverty. (Pro)

You know, up until a few weeks ago I would've disagreed but I read a blog post that turned me around. Basically, the author argued that it isn't as simple as "work hard, get ahead" anymore, and modernity has taken vast amounts of people who, in an earlier era, would have lived useful and fulfilling lives farming or hunting or whatever, and created a society that relies upon skills they simple don't have. As we progress, there becomes something of an intelligence cutoff for who can contribute economically and some people just don't have what it takes. Modernity has made everything a million times better for those who could participate, but for those who can't..."society" probably does owe them, in some way, for taking away their usefulness.

And, the author warned, we'd better establish this principle quickly because as automation and AI gets increasingly more effective...we'll all be outdated sooner or later.

That's really interesting, actually.

Yeah, I thought so.

Hey, the minority debate is still an option. Why do you feel that way? I mean, I'm really not trying to be a d1ck but that just don mak no sense yo
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2/19/2015 10:26:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 10:22:42 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:17:20 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:11:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 9:16:20 PM, bsh1 wrote:
- Pure rationalism is a sufficient explanation for the epistemological problem of infinite regress. (Con)

Too many big words

Lol...

I mean, that was a joke but I honestly don't know what that means. I'm very poorly versed in philosophy that isn't political in nature

Me too...I am trying hard to expand my philosophical repertoire.

- The 'right to be forgotten' from Internet searches ought to be a civil right. (Pro/Con)

No way...I don't wanna debate it though. See what I mean with the apathy?

There has to be something you want to debate...

Well, there's been a topic that's been captivating me for at least two years and it's been the rise of the state in western society. It's just hard to formulate a resolution that revolves around that...my individualism debate was kinda about that.

What's the topic?

- On balance, romance is an important part of human flourishing. (Pro)

Who could possibly disagree?

Annie. Endark. Others.

If they actually disagree they certainly don't act like it

I think they're just afraid to admit it does matter.

- Homegrown terror threats are a greater danger than foreign terror threats to the United States's homeland security (Pro)

lolno.

Why not?

Cuz like it did in your debate with Whiteflame, it will come down to which should be viewed as a more current threat and just...meh

Lol...okay. Though, I think this one is a bit broader than the one with whiteflame, such that I am not sure it's an issue.

And, the author warned, we'd better establish this principle quickly because as automation and AI gets increasingly more effective...we'll all be outdated sooner or later.

That's really interesting, actually.

Yeah, I thought so.

Hey, the minority debate is still an option. Why do you feel that way? I mean, I'm really not trying to be a d1ck but that just don mak no sense yo

My issue is with mandatory assimilation. Passive assimilation is fine, but cultural or legal rules designed to force the conformity of minority groups are a bit disturbing to me.
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2/19/2015 10:26:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 10:19:47 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:14:06 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:08:19 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM, thett3 wrote:
I haven't ha a serious debate since God knows when. I want to do one. Problem is, I'm so apathetic about everything and I can't really think of a topic. If anyone has ever wanted a go at old thett, consider this the moment when my shirt is off and I'm yelling "come at me bro".

And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics

Resolved: Jesus is the Messiah (Con)
Pecability vs. Inpeccability of Christ (Impeccability)
Resolved: Theism is more rational than Atheism (Con)
Resolved: Agnosticism is the most logical religious position (pro)

I don't debate religion, sorry. I have pretty weird religious views
Resolved: Thett's Religious Views are sound (con)
What do you debate, then?

Not that. My religious views are deeply personal...they're something I wouldn't mind talking about, but I don't want someone attacking them even if it's just a debate.

Resolved: Utilitarianism is sound (pro)

Maybe. I think the real truth if there is any is something in between. Intent matters, but so does result.
Me too

Resolved: Kantian Dentology is sound (pro)

Lol I sense a little devils advocate here. I would find it easier to attack Kantian ethics than Util, I think, but only just.
Interesting, I find that people attack Util more so than Kantian ethics.

Idk...it's just following either to it's extreme is silly. I think I lean more towards the utilitarian side because my answer to the trolly problem is you obviously pull the lever.
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2/19/2015 10:27:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 10:17:59 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:11:08 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM, thett3 wrote:
I haven't ha a serious debate since God knows when. I want to do one. Problem is, I'm so apathetic about everything and I can't really think of a topic. If anyone has ever wanted a go at old thett, consider this the moment when my shirt is off and I'm yelling "come at me bro".

And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics
Resolved: The United States ought to prioritize the pursuit of national security objectives above the digital privacy of its citizens. (pro)

I'd probably take that....maybe.

Oppressive government is more desirable than no government. (Either)

Lol you should read my debates with Zaradi or (I think I ran the same args) Royal on that topic. I'm a complete douchebag and define government in an...interesting way, that allows me to establish something around 1000 years of Western history as being without a government
Lol.

- Resolved: A government has the obligation to lessen the economic gap between its rich and poor citizens. (Pro)

Con if you're going to argue that as a principle. I think there may be some obligations the government has that inadvertently lessen the gap without that being the explicit intent (welfare for example). But lessen the economic gap just for sh1ts and giggles? Nah. Well, that is the purpose of lessening the economic gap between rich and poor citizens, to improve the lives of the people.

Resolved: When forced to choose, a just government ought to prioritize universal human rights over its national interest. (Pro)

What's a national interest? If UHC is good policy, wouldn't it be a governments national interest? Say a nation wants to gain a natural resource to expand its economy, but it requires a war to do so, thus resulting in death and violation of UHC.

Compulsory inclusion of non-felons' DNA in any government database is unjust. (Either)

meh

Resolved: Military conscription is unjust. (Either)

I could take either on this too, although I think I'd prefer Pro.
I'm leaning pro too.

Resolved: Limiting economic inequality ought to be a more important social goal than maximizing economic freedom. (Pro)

Hmm....*that* could be a fun topic.

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2/19/2015 10:29:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 10:26:53 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:19:47 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:14:06 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:08:19 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM, thett3 wrote:
I haven't ha a serious debate since God knows when. I want to do one. Problem is, I'm so apathetic about everything and I can't really think of a topic. If anyone has ever wanted a go at old thett, consider this the moment when my shirt is off and I'm yelling "come at me bro".

And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics

Resolved: Jesus is the Messiah (Con)
Pecability vs. Inpeccability of Christ (Impeccability)
Resolved: Theism is more rational than Atheism (Con)
Resolved: Agnosticism is the most logical religious position (pro)

I don't debate religion, sorry. I have pretty weird religious views
Resolved: Thett's Religious Views are sound (con)
What do you debate, then?

Not that. My religious views are deeply personal...they're something I wouldn't mind talking about, but I don't want someone attacking them even if it's just a debate.

I understand. What are your religious views?

Resolved: Utilitarianism is sound (pro)

Maybe. I think the real truth if there is any is something in between. Intent matters, but so does result.
Me too

Resolved: Kantian Dentology is sound (pro)

Lol I sense a little devils advocate here. I would find it easier to attack Kantian ethics than Util, I think, but only just.
Interesting, I find that people attack Util more so than Kantian ethics.

Idk...it's just following either to it's extreme is silly. I think I lean more towards the utilitarian side because my answer to the trolly problem is you obviously pull the lever.

I agree, I think there should be a balance. Though I have not seen an ethical system that is a balance between Util and Kant, perhaps we can create our own.
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2/19/2015 10:33:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Lol you should read my debates with Zaradi or (I think I ran the same args) Royal on that topic. I'm a complete douchebag and define government in an...interesting way, that allows me to establish something around 1000 years of Western history as being without a government.

Lol. On the topic of Zaradi I'm considering debating him on this topic: http://www.debate.org...
Do you think I am ready to debate Zaradi?
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2/19/2015 10:35:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 10:26:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:22:42 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:17:20 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:11:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 9:16:20 PM, bsh1 wrote:
- Pure rationalism is a sufficient explanation for the epistemological problem of infinite regress. (Con)

Too many big words

Lol...

I mean, that was a joke but I honestly don't know what that means. I'm very poorly versed in philosophy that isn't political in nature

Me too...I am trying hard to expand my philosophical repertoire.

- The 'right to be forgotten' from Internet searches ought to be a civil right. (Pro/Con)

No way...I don't wanna debate it though. See what I mean with the apathy?

There has to be something you want to debate...

Well, there's been a topic that's been captivating me for at least two years and it's been the rise of the state in western society. It's just hard to formulate a resolution that revolves around that...my individualism debate was kinda about that.

What's the topic?

That topic was "Individualism is societally destructive", and the argument I ran was essentially that individualist philosophy breaks down the intermediate institutions that separate individuals from the state (things like church, family/kinship associations, natural aristocracy), but these fulfill essential human needs. And when they're gone, the state substitutes itself as a replacement and it's a pretty poor one at that. I am not sure I really agree with the position anymore because what destroyed the intermediate institutions was much more driven by economic factors (although individualist philosophy, especially the cursed French revolution) didn't help matters.

There's a historical narrative that places emphasis on the battle for power between the state and intermediate institutions for power and I'm convinced that it's accurate for the most part--all narratives have flaws, obviously.

- On balance, romance is an important part of human flourishing. (Pro)

Who could possibly disagree?

Annie. Endark. Others.

If they actually disagree they certainly don't act like it

I think they're just afraid to admit it does matter.

Yeah, who knows

- Homegrown terror threats are a greater danger than foreign terror threats to the United States's homeland security (Pro)

lolno.

Why not?

Cuz like it did in your debate with Whiteflame, it will come down to which should be viewed as a more current threat and just...meh

Lol...okay. Though, I think this one is a bit broader than the one with whiteflame, such that I am not sure it's an issue.

I'm pretty sure I could win the debate just by arguing that all those uber right wing groups will calm down once we have a white president again + ISIS is scary

And, the author warned, we'd better establish this principle quickly because as automation and AI gets increasingly more effective...we'll all be outdated sooner or later.

That's really interesting, actually.

Yeah, I thought so.

Hey, the minority debate is still an option. Why do you feel that way? I mean, I'm really not trying to be a d1ck but that just don mak no sense yo

My issue is with mandatory assimilation. Passive assimilation is fine, but cultural or legal rules designed to force the conformity of minority groups are a bit disturbing to me.

Depends by what you mean by mandatory... the government shouldn't be breaking into peoples houses and making them eat burgers or something, but I don't think that cultural norms which cause assimilation are unethical. In fact, they're absolutely essential for a society that experiences mass immigration. Compare the European immigration experience with the American one
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2/19/2015 10:37:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2015 10:27:49 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:17:59 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/19/2015 10:11:08 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/19/2015 8:17:45 PM, thett3 wrote:
I haven't ha a serious debate since God knows when. I want to do one. Problem is, I'm so apathetic about everything and I can't really think of a topic. If anyone has ever wanted a go at old thett, consider this the moment when my shirt is off and I'm yelling "come at me bro".

And before you ask Joey I don't wanna debate economics
Resolved: The United States ought to prioritize the pursuit of national security objectives above the digital privacy of its citizens. (pro)

I'd probably take that....maybe.

Oppressive government is more desirable than no government. (Either)

Lol you should read my debates with Zaradi or (I think I ran the same args) Royal on that topic. I'm a complete douchebag and define government in an...interesting way, that allows me to establish something around 1000 years of Western history as being without a government
Lol.

It really isn't *that* douchey, tbh. The idea of the nation state as we have now just didn't exist for a large part of history

- Resolved: A government has the obligation to lessen the economic gap between its rich and poor citizens. (Pro)

Con if you're going to argue that as a principle. I think there may be some obligations the government has that inadvertently lessen the gap without that being the explicit intent (welfare for example). But lessen the economic gap just for sh1ts and giggles? Nah. Well, that is the purpose of lessening the economic gap between rich and poor citizens, to improve the lives of the people.

Resolved: When forced to choose, a just government ought to prioritize universal human rights over its national interest. (Pro)

What's a national interest? If UHC is good policy, wouldn't it be a governments national interest? Say a nation wants to gain a natural resource to expand its economy, but it requires a war to do so, thus resulting in death and violation of UHC.

Compulsory inclusion of non-felons' DNA in any government database is unjust. (Either)

meh

Resolved: Military conscription is unjust. (Either)

I could take either on this too, although I think I'd prefer Pro.
I'm leaning pro too.

Resolved: Limiting economic inequality ought to be a more important social goal than maximizing economic freedom. (Pro)

Hmm....*that* could be a fun topic.

Indeed it can.

*rips off shirt* come at me
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: At 11/12/2016 11:49:40 PM, Raisor wrote:
: thett was right