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Wylted
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2/27/2015 2:24:56 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
INTRO AND INFO

I'm happy and honored to have the privilege of hosting the second regular DDO tournament.

Please note that this is a Regular Tournament, and as such it is not geared towards Beginners. If you are a new or inexperienced debater, I would suggest waiting or signing up for a Beginner's competition. It is also important to note that this tournament has a theme: Ethics and Philosophy.

I'm sure not everyone is aware of this but it has been brought to my attention that March is women's history month. This tournament will be themed around that concept.

Feminism and women's rights offer an extremely wide range of topics, and I'll be giving some suggestions below. Any female who wants to enter the tournament will be guaranteed a spot even if the spots are filled. Every accommodation will be made.

I will run the tournament when I have 8 contestants (I would prefer to have no more than 8). I will also take on board 2 back-ups in case of any issues getting the tournament underway; back-ups will only be eligible to replace in for the first round of the tournament, and will only replace in if one debater concedes the debate outright, or forfeits a majority of his or her rounds in the debate.

I am not going to assign judges for the tournament, because, in my experience, having a set pool of judges reduces the likelihood that debates get voted on at all. However, to maintain voting integrity during the tournament, I ask that (a) debaters not solicit votes via PM unless they've agreed on who they want to ask for votes, and (b) debaters set a minimum ELO of 2,500 to vote on their debates. These are requests, not mandates. Debaters are free to work out voting arrangements amongst themselves.

Also, to make sure the tournament moves along in a timely fashion, competitors will have 4 days in-between rounds to begin select topics and begin debates. After 4 days, I will randomly assign competitors a topic from the list to follow. Feel free to choose a topic from the list even if I haven't assigned it; also, once a topic has been used, I will remove it from the list to prevent repeats.

I hope this will be a fun and engaging tournament for everyone! I hope to have everything underway by March 1st or 2nd. Please sign up only if you have sufficient time, energy, and interest to devote to this venture. Thanks, and good luck :)

(note: several lines borrowed or stolen from BSH1's sign up thread.)

Suggested Topics

1. Partial birth abortion should be illegal.
2. Single-sex schools are better for students.
3. Women should not get the right to vote.
4. Parents should be allowed to choose their baby's gender.
5. This House believes mothers should stay at home and look after their children.
6. This house believes that housewives should be paid for their work
7. This house would legalize polygamy
8. This House would legalise Prostitution
9. This house believes in the woman's right to choose
10, This House would force feed sufferers of Anorexia Nervosa
11. This House believes that music that glorifies violence against women should be banned.
12. Women should be allowed in combat in the military.
13. Rape culture is a major problem.
14. The pay gap between men and women is unfair.
15. Child marriages should be banned in all cultures.
16. This House would ban female genital mutilation.
17. This House believes that the feminist movement should seek a ban on pornography
18. This House would ban sexist advertising
19. This House believes mothers should stay at home and look after their children.
20. This House would ban professional cheerleading
21. This House believes that gender quotas in the EU are advantageous for the economies of member states
22. This House Believes That Feminism Is Still Needed
23. This House would create a system of covenant marriage
24. The HPV vaccine should be required.

As you can see women's issues is very broad and can be construed in a lot of different ways. Be creative, and have fun. I stopped at 23 but I could list 100 more just make sure your debate in some way relates to women's rights.
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2/27/2015 7:47:14 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/27/2015 2:25:17 AM, Wylted wrote:
SIGN-UPS

Contestants

1. Lannan13 (can't debate March14-21 due to Parris Island trip)
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.

Back-Ups

1.
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2/27/2015 8:10:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I would but I think I'm out of town for spring break
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2/27/2015 12:57:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/27/2015 7:47:14 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 2/27/2015 2:25:17 AM, Wylted wrote:
SIGN-UPS

Contestants

1. Lannan13 (can't debate March14-21 due to Parris Island trip)
2. Lexus
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.

Back-Ups

1.
2.
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2/27/2015 3:15:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
SIGN-UPS

Contestants

1. Lannan13 (can't debate March14-21 due to Parris Island trip)
2. Lexus
3. Whiteflame
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.

Back-Ups

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2/28/2015 4:04:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/27/2015 2:24:56 AM, Wylted wrote:
INTRO AND INFO

I'm happy and honored to have the privilege of hosting the second regular DDO tournament.

Please note that this is a Regular Tournament, and as such it is not geared towards Beginners. If you are a new or inexperienced debater, I would suggest waiting or signing up for a Beginner's competition. It is also important to note that this tournament has a theme: Ethics and Philosophy.

I'm sure not everyone is aware of this but it has been brought to my attention that March is women's history month. This tournament will be themed around that concept.

Feminism and women's rights offer an extremely wide range of topics, and I'll be giving some suggestions below. Any female who wants to enter the tournament will be guaranteed a spot even if the spots are filled. Every accommodation will be made.

I will run the tournament when I have 8 contestants (I would prefer to have no more than 8). I will also take on board 2 back-ups in case of any issues getting the tournament underway; back-ups will only be eligible to replace in for the first round of the tournament, and will only replace in if one debater concedes the debate outright, or forfeits a majority of his or her rounds in the debate.

I am not going to assign judges for the tournament, because, in my experience, having a set pool of judges reduces the likelihood that debates get voted on at all. However, to maintain voting integrity during the tournament, I ask that (a) debaters not solicit votes via PM unless they've agreed on who they want to ask for votes, and (b) debaters set a minimum ELO of 2,500 to vote on their debates. These are requests, not mandates. Debaters are free to work out voting arrangements amongst themselves.

Also, to make sure the tournament moves along in a timely fashion, competitors will have 4 days in-between rounds to begin select topics and begin debates. After 4 days, I will randomly assign competitors a topic from the list to follow. Feel free to choose a topic from the list even if I haven't assigned it; also, once a topic has been used, I will remove it from the list to prevent repeats.

I hope this will be a fun and engaging tournament for everyone! I hope to have everything underway by March 1st or 2nd. Please sign up only if you have sufficient time, energy, and interest to devote to this venture. Thanks, and good luck :)

(note: several lines borrowed or stolen from BSH1's sign up thread.)

Suggested Topics

1. Partial birth abortion should be illegal.
2. Single-sex schools are better for students.
3. Women should not get the right to vote.

Good luck arguing in favor of this one.

4. Parents should be allowed to choose their baby's gender.
5. This House believes mothers should stay at home and look after their children.
6. This house believes that housewives should be paid for their work

Paid in what... tax dollars? That sounds like a plan waiting for utter failure.

7. This house would legalize polygamy
8. This House would legalise Prostitution
9. This house believes in the woman's right to choose

Good luck arguing against that.

10, This House would force feed sufferers of Anorexia Nervosa
11. This House believes that music that glorifies violence against women should be banned.
12. Women should be allowed in combat in the military.
13. Rape culture is a major problem.

No sh*t.

14. The pay gap between men and women is unfair.
15. Child marriages should be banned in all cultures.
16. This House would ban female genital mutilation.
17. This House believes that the feminist movement should seek a ban on pornography

this one is actually really good.

18. This House would ban sexist advertising
19. This House believes mothers should stay at home and look after their children.
20. This House would ban professional cheerleading

lol

21. This House believes that gender quotas in the EU are advantageous for the economies of member states
22. This House Believes That Feminism Is Still Needed
23. This House would create a system of covenant marriage
24. The HPV vaccine should be required.

As you can see women's issues is very broad and can be construed in a lot of different ways. Be creative, and have fun. I stopped at 23 but I could list 100 more just make sure your debate in some way relates to women's rights.
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2/28/2015 4:13:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
You can PM me about it if you want, but I don't think rape culture exists at all in western society. I'd certainly be happy to discuss that.
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2/28/2015 4:57:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/28/2015 4:35:08 PM, Envisage wrote:
These topics are awesome.

You can also pick your own topic. Are you in?
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2/28/2015 4:59:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/28/2015 4:57:58 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 2/28/2015 4:35:08 PM, Envisage wrote:
These topics are awesome.

You can also pick your own topic. Are you in?

No, I can't commit the time.
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2/28/2015 5:00:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/28/2015 4:59:32 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 4:57:58 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 2/28/2015 4:35:08 PM, Envisage wrote:
These topics are awesome.

You can also pick your own topic. Are you in?

No, I can't commit the time.

Okay :*(

I definitely understand that.
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2/28/2015 5:50:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/28/2015 5:00:44 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 2/28/2015 4:59:32 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 4:57:58 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 2/28/2015 4:35:08 PM, Envisage wrote:
These topics are awesome.

You can also pick your own topic. Are you in?

No, I can't commit the time.

Okay :*(

I definitely understand that.

I wasn't being sarcastic about the topics, they appeal to me, but I am pretty sure they don't appeal to most people :-p
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2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM
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Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!
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2/28/2015 6:02:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

Plenty of political topics or economic topics can happen in this tournament. You can discuss whether the wage gap is unfair or not, abortion, or other topics that would disproportionately effect women such as pornography, a policy debate on prostitution or maybe some sort of affirmative action type of policies that would get a fairer representation of women in the STEM fields in education as well as the work force.

You have plenty of options, it would be great if you'd join.
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2/28/2015 6:04:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/28/2015 6:02:01 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

Plenty of political topics or economic topics can happen in this tournament. You can discuss whether the wage gap is unfair or not, abortion, or other topics that would disproportionately effect women such as pornography, a policy debate on prostitution or maybe some sort of affirmative action type of policies that would get a fairer representation of women in the STEM fields in education as well as the work force.

You have plenty of options, it would be great if you'd join.

It would certainly be possible to debate the ethics of economic policy, but that's not really the angle I'm accustomed to or comfortable debating. I debated jifpop on Edeb8 on taxes, for instance, and even though my arguments were entirely based on technical wonkery--I must have cited 14 different academic journals--his entire argument was based on "morality" and "liberty" and other such sophistry. Suffice it to say, I was taken aback.
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2/28/2015 6:06:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

I typed "maximize suffering" and ethical theory into Google and found nothing on a moral philosophy that relates to sadism.... What a shame.... Maybe there is room for you to invent one. Operate on the premise that experiencing suffering is overall beneficial, and take it to it's logical conclusion.

I actually have a feeling that the results would be counter intuitive.
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2/28/2015 6:08:18 PM
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At 2/28/2015 6:06:05 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

I typed "maximize suffering" and ethical theory into Google and found nothing on a moral philosophy that relates to sadism.... What a shame.... Maybe there is room for you to invent one. Operate on the premise that experiencing suffering is overall beneficial, and take it to it's logical conclusion.

I actually have a feeling that the results would be counter intuitive.

Lol, if I were to do that, I would literally quote entirely from one of Zaradi's debates and cite him. I think Nietzshe is the primary proponent of the view that suffering yields greatness and attempting to reduce it is counter-productive in the long run.
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2/28/2015 6:14:59 PM
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At 2/28/2015 6:08:18 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:06:05 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

I typed "maximize suffering" and ethical theory into Google and found nothing on a moral philosophy that relates to sadism.... What a shame.... Maybe there is room for you to invent one. Operate on the premise that experiencing suffering is overall beneficial, and take it to it's logical conclusion.

I actually have a feeling that the results would be counter intuitive.

Lol, if I were to do that, I would literally quote entirely from one of Zaradi's debates and cite him. I think Nietzshe is the primary proponent of the view that suffering yields greatness and attempting to reduce it is counter-productive in the long run.

I need to read less Schopenhauer and more Nietszche...
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2/28/2015 6:19:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/28/2015 6:08:18 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:06:05 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

I typed "maximize suffering" and ethical theory into Google and found nothing on a moral philosophy that relates to sadism.... What a shame.... Maybe there is room for you to invent one. Operate on the premise that experiencing suffering is overall beneficial, and take it to it's logical conclusion.

I actually have a feeling that the results would be counter intuitive.

Lol, if I were to do that, I would literally quote entirely from one of Zaradi's debates and cite him. I think Nietzshe is the primary proponent of the view that suffering yields greatness and attempting to reduce it is counter-productive in the long run.

So that's why Zaradi used Nietzche against his debate with me regarding Food Security.
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
R13; Marcus Aurelius
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
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2/28/2015 6:34:13 PM
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At 2/28/2015 6:14:59 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:08:18 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:06:05 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

I typed "maximize suffering" and ethical theory into Google and found nothing on a moral philosophy that relates to sadism.... What a shame.... Maybe there is room for you to invent one. Operate on the premise that experiencing suffering is overall beneficial, and take it to it's logical conclusion.

I actually have a feeling that the results would be counter intuitive.

Lol, if I were to do that, I would literally quote entirely from one of Zaradi's debates and cite him. I think Nietzshe is the primary proponent of the view that suffering yields greatness and attempting to reduce it is counter-productive in the long run.

I need to read less Schopenhauer and more Nietszche...

YUP!
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2/28/2015 6:34:39 PM
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At 2/28/2015 6:19:49 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:08:18 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:06:05 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

I typed "maximize suffering" and ethical theory into Google and found nothing on a moral philosophy that relates to sadism.... What a shame.... Maybe there is room for you to invent one. Operate on the premise that experiencing suffering is overall beneficial, and take it to it's logical conclusion.

I actually have a feeling that the results would be counter intuitive.

Lol, if I were to do that, I would literally quote entirely from one of Zaradi's debates and cite him. I think Nietzshe is the primary proponent of the view that suffering yields greatness and attempting to reduce it is counter-productive in the long run.

So that's why Zaradi used Nietzche against his debate with me regarding Food Security.

Did he really? Lmfao. I didn't know he was running that argument anymore.
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2/28/2015 6:43:42 PM
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At 2/28/2015 6:19:49 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:08:18 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:06:05 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

I typed "maximize suffering" and ethical theory into Google and found nothing on a moral philosophy that relates to sadism.... What a shame.... Maybe there is room for you to invent one. Operate on the premise that experiencing suffering is overall beneficial, and take it to it's logical conclusion.

I actually have a feeling that the results would be counter intuitive.

Lol, if I were to do that, I would literally quote entirely from one of Zaradi's debates and cite him. I think Nietzshe is the primary proponent of the view that suffering yields greatness and attempting to reduce it is counter-productive in the long run.

So that's why Zaradi used Nietzche against his debate with me regarding Food Security.

Holy crap.minjust read his round, he has just achieved a whole new level of awesome....
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2/28/2015 7:17:22 PM
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Sig change
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
R13; Marcus Aurelius
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
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2/28/2015 7:18:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/28/2015 6:34:39 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:19:49 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:08:18 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:06:05 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

I typed "maximize suffering" and ethical theory into Google and found nothing on a moral philosophy that relates to sadism.... What a shame.... Maybe there is room for you to invent one. Operate on the premise that experiencing suffering is overall beneficial, and take it to it's logical conclusion.

I actually have a feeling that the results would be counter intuitive.

Lol, if I were to do that, I would literally quote entirely from one of Zaradi's debates and cite him. I think Nietzshe is the primary proponent of the view that suffering yields greatness and attempting to reduce it is counter-productive in the long run.

So that's why Zaradi used Nietzche against his debate with me regarding Food Security.

Did he really? Lmfao. I didn't know he was running that argument anymore.
The Nietzche argument is back:
http://www.debate.org... See Zaradi's R2 argument.
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
R13; Marcus Aurelius
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
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2/28/2015 7:19:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/28/2015 7:18:23 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:34:39 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:19:49 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:08:18 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:06:05 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

I typed "maximize suffering" and ethical theory into Google and found nothing on a moral philosophy that relates to sadism.... What a shame.... Maybe there is room for you to invent one. Operate on the premise that experiencing suffering is overall beneficial, and take it to it's logical conclusion.

I actually have a feeling that the results would be counter intuitive.

Lol, if I were to do that, I would literally quote entirely from one of Zaradi's debates and cite him. I think Nietzshe is the primary proponent of the view that suffering yields greatness and attempting to reduce it is counter-productive in the long run.

So that's why Zaradi used Nietzche against his debate with me regarding Food Security.

Did he really? Lmfao. I didn't know he was running that argument anymore.
The Nietzche argument is back:
http://www.debate.org... See Zaradi's R2 argument.

WOOOOOOTTTTT!!!!!!!!

All those role PM's worked! Dreams really do come true!
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2/28/2015 7:20:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/28/2015 7:19:41 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 7:18:23 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:34:39 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:19:49 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:08:18 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:06:05 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

I typed "maximize suffering" and ethical theory into Google and found nothing on a moral philosophy that relates to sadism.... What a shame.... Maybe there is room for you to invent one. Operate on the premise that experiencing suffering is overall beneficial, and take it to it's logical conclusion.

I actually have a feeling that the results would be counter intuitive.

Lol, if I were to do that, I would literally quote entirely from one of Zaradi's debates and cite him. I think Nietzshe is the primary proponent of the view that suffering yields greatness and attempting to reduce it is counter-productive in the long run.

So that's why Zaradi used Nietzche against his debate with me regarding Food Security.

Did he really? Lmfao. I didn't know he was running that argument anymore.
The Nietzche argument is back:
http://www.debate.org... See Zaradi's R2 argument.

WOOOOOOTTTTT!!!!!!!!

All those role PM's worked! Dreams really do come true!

What role PMs?
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
R13; Marcus Aurelius
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
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2/28/2015 7:22:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/28/2015 7:20:13 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/28/2015 7:19:41 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 7:18:23 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:34:39 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:19:49 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:08:18 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:06:05 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

I typed "maximize suffering" and ethical theory into Google and found nothing on a moral philosophy that relates to sadism.... What a shame.... Maybe there is room for you to invent one. Operate on the premise that experiencing suffering is overall beneficial, and take it to it's logical conclusion.

I actually have a feeling that the results would be counter intuitive.

Lol, if I were to do that, I would literally quote entirely from one of Zaradi's debates and cite him. I think Nietzshe is the primary proponent of the view that suffering yields greatness and attempting to reduce it is counter-productive in the long run.

So that's why Zaradi used Nietzche against his debate with me regarding Food Security.

Did he really? Lmfao. I didn't know he was running that argument anymore.
The Nietzche argument is back:
http://www.debate.org... See Zaradi's R2 argument.

WOOOOOOTTTTT!!!!!!!!

All those role PM's worked! Dreams really do come true!

What role PMs?

Oh, right, those were supposed to be air-tight.
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2/28/2015 7:24:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/28/2015 7:22:00 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 7:20:13 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/28/2015 7:19:41 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 7:18:23 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:34:39 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:19:49 PM, That1User wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:08:18 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 2/28/2015 6:06:05 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 2/28/2015 5:54:54 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Awwwww, there's a theme? =(.

It's a fun theme certainly, but all I know about philosophy is that suffering is good, pornography is bad, and morality is subjective.

The second we get an econ or politics theme, though, count me in!

I typed "maximize suffering" and ethical theory into Google and found nothing on a moral philosophy that relates to sadism.... What a shame.... Maybe there is room for you to invent one. Operate on the premise that experiencing suffering is overall beneficial, and take it to it's logical conclusion.

I actually have a feeling that the results would be counter intuitive.

Lol, if I were to do that, I would literally quote entirely from one of Zaradi's debates and cite him. I think Nietzshe is the primary proponent of the view that suffering yields greatness and attempting to reduce it is counter-productive in the long run.

So that's why Zaradi used Nietzche against his debate with me regarding Food Security.

Did he really? Lmfao. I didn't know he was running that argument anymore.
The Nietzche argument is back:
http://www.debate.org... See Zaradi's R2 argument.

WOOOOOOTTTTT!!!!!!!!

All those role PM's worked! Dreams really do come true!

What role PMs?

Oh, right, those were supposed to be air-tight.

Now it's time to airbend those "air-tight" roles.
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
R13; Marcus Aurelius
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire