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ZenoCitium
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3/1/2015 9:10:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Hello all. I have been wondering what the accepted policy on voting is regarding debates that are logically flawed but the logical flaw is not exposed by the opponent. For instance, let's say that the instigator used the argument from ignorance fallacy but the challenger did not expose the invalidity. As a judge, can we expose and use the fallacy in our judgment? Are we judging the performance of the two debaters or the argument provided by the instigator?
Wylted
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3/1/2015 9:14:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I think If the person isn't called on the fallacy, it should be credited towards them. Generally speaking.
bsh1
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3/1/2015 9:41:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
If someone's argument is flawed, but those flaws are not pointed about by an opponent, the judge should not consider those flaws.

Debate is a competitive event--the moment judges start pointing out flaws that weren't observed by the opponent is the moment the debates stops being a contest between two people. It is extremely bad form for a judge to intervene like that.
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Ragnar
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3/2/2015 12:19:57 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Depends how bad the logical flaw is. For example, "you should vote for me because my opponent smells like Hitler! A vote for him is a vote for genocide!" Even unrefuted, it is almost certainly off topic, not to mention a clear attempt at pissing away the conduct point.

One way to look at it, is the poorly reasoned points are still poorly reasoned even if unrefuted, each giving only a small push toward victory. If I do no more than spam a wall of Gish Gallop, each has no support, and I'll (hopefully) instantly lose the debate if my opponent merely calls out the Gish Gallop; however unrefuted, I haven't really gained much of anything for my side. One strong point that's partially refuted is usually better than ten really weak points that are unrefuted.
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Zaradi
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3/2/2015 9:21:39 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/1/2015 9:41:40 PM, bsh1 wrote:
If someone's argument is flawed, but those flaws are not pointed about by an opponent, the judge should not consider those flaws.

Debate is a competitive event--the moment judges start pointing out flaws that weren't observed by the opponent is the moment the debates stops being a contest between two people. It is extremely bad form for a judge to intervene like that.

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