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Mirza
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4/5/2015 1:18:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
This is not an official announcement of a presidential candidacy, but a formation of a new council composed of certain types of quality members who wish to cooperate to bring changes to the site. Together we will cooperate in order to make progress.

I will personally decide whether or not you fit very specific requirements I have in mind, but one of the qualities you must possess are the following: (a) You must be white/European. These two cannot be separated, so if you are "white" born outside of Europe, you are very likely to be pseudo-white, unless you have preserved your cultural/ethnic background entirely, plan on returning to your homeland, and do not consider a non-European country your own. If this is not met, you are not eligible to join; (b) You must be over 16 of age; (c) Have a philosophical and creative mind.

I only take offers in PM. Thanks.
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4/5/2015 1:25:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Is this a joke?
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4/5/2015 1:30:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 1:25:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Is this a joke?
No, why? If you take issues with the high age requirement, you're welcome to post constructive criticism.
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4/5/2015 1:33:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 1:30:19 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/5/2015 1:25:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Is this a joke?
No, why? If you take issues with the high age requirement, you're welcome to post constructive criticism.

The thing about being born outside Europe makes one "pseudo-white" is ridiculous.
"It's awfully considerate of you to think of me here,
And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."

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4/5/2015 1:37:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 1:33:02 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 4/5/2015 1:30:19 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/5/2015 1:25:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Is this a joke?
No, why? If you take issues with the high age requirement, you're welcome to post constructive criticism.

The thing about being born outside Europe makes one "pseudo-white" is ridiculous.
I was thinking of writing non-white, but that seems offensive. But, it is not only about place of birth, since an European could be born elsewhere during his parent's trip or something; it is about where one has his spiritual, cultural, and ethnic roots (not just origins). Europeans fulfil this by being entirely connected to Europe, naturally, but others do not.
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4/5/2015 1:46:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 1:37:48 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/5/2015 1:33:02 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 4/5/2015 1:30:19 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/5/2015 1:25:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Is this a joke?
No, why? If you take issues with the high age requirement, you're welcome to post constructive criticism.

The thing about being born outside Europe makes one "pseudo-white" is ridiculous.
I was thinking of writing non-white, but that seems offensive. But, it is not only about place of birth, since an European could be born elsewhere during his parent's trip or something; it is about where one has his spiritual, cultural, and ethnic roots (not just origins). Europeans fulfil this by being entirely connected to Europe, naturally, but others do not.

It's not really "pseudo-white" because they are biologically descended from European, rather the literally correct term is "white (or) European American".

I also don't know why you would want to block Americans from the group.
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4/5/2015 1:52:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 1:46:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
It's not really "pseudo-white" because they are biologically descended from European, rather the literally correct term is "white (or) European American".

I also don't know why you would want to block Americans from the group.
They are mostly descended from Europeans, indeed, but not entirely. In addition, as I said there is more to the term than genetics only, if we disregard the previous sentence; cultural and spiritual evolution has taken a different path for Australians, Americans, etc., which in that regard makes them different to Europeans, especially in the future with far more diversity than now. Hence the distinction from white/European and pseudo-white.

As for the last comment, obviously not all are blocked, since a few have parents who migrated only recently, and they still speak their native European languages and follow customs, etcetera. But most do not fall under the requirements.
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4/5/2015 2:00:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 1:52:15 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/5/2015 1:46:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
It's not really "pseudo-white" because they are biologically descended from European, rather the literally correct term is "white (or) European American".

I also don't know why you would want to block Americans from the group.
They are mostly descended from Europeans, indeed, but not entirely. In addition, as I said there is more to the term than genetics only, if we disregard the previous sentence; cultural and spiritual evolution has taken a different path for Australians, Americans, etc., which in that regard makes them different to Europeans, especially in the future with far more diversity than now. Hence the distinction from white/European and pseudo-white.

As for the last comment, obviously not all are blocked, since a few have parents who migrated only recently, and they still speak their native European languages and follow customs, etcetera. But most do not fall under the requirements.

But what is your reasoning for blocking most people?
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4/5/2015 2:01:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 1:18:50 PM, Mirza wrote:
This is not an official announcement of a presidential candidacy, but a formation of a new council composed of certain types of quality members who wish to cooperate to bring changes to the site. Together we will cooperate in order to make progress.

I will personally decide whether or not you fit very specific requirements I have in mind, but one of the qualities you must possess are the following: (a) You must be white/European. These two cannot be separated, so if you are "white" born outside of Europe, you are very likely to be pseudo-white, unless you have preserved your cultural/ethnic background entirely, plan on returning to your homeland, and do not consider a non-European country your own. If this is not met, you are not eligible to join; (b) You must be over 16 of age; (c) Have a philosophical and creative mind.

I only take offers in PM. Thanks.

lmao

you rock dude
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4/5/2015 2:03:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 2:00:47 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
But what is your reasoning for blocking most people?
Europeans are under-represented here, so to promote our presence I believe this is one of the ways. The exclusion of pseudo-whites is done because they do not fall under the aforementioned category.
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4/5/2015 2:07:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 2:03:49 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/5/2015 2:00:47 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
But what is your reasoning for blocking most people?
Europeans are under-represented here, so to promote our presence I believe this is one of the ways. The exclusion of pseudo-whites is done because they do not fall under the aforementioned category.

I know what you would like to change, and I support it. But how do you wish to accomplish integrating non-American things into the site when you are deliberately separating yourself from most of the user base?
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4/5/2015 2:11:08 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 2:07:37 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I know what you would like to change, and I support it. But how do you wish to accomplish integrating non-American things into the site when you are deliberately separating yourself from most of the user base?
I am surely not separating myself in most ways by forming this group. It is simply meant to function as a group who, together with the rest of the user-base, will try to make changes that suit us as well as others.
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4/5/2015 2:13:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 2:11:08 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/5/2015 2:07:37 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I know what you would like to change, and I support it. But how do you wish to accomplish integrating non-American things into the site when you are deliberately separating yourself from most of the user base?
I am surely not separating myself in most ways by forming this group. It is simply meant to function as a group who, together with the rest of the user-base, will try to make changes that suit us as well as others.

It just seems elitist to me. Like - "We are holier than thou, so listen to us because we said so."
"It's awfully considerate of you to think of me here,
And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."

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4/5/2015 2:22:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 2:13:58 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
It just seems elitist to me. Like - "We are holier than thou, so listen to us because we said so."
I understand this concern, and sympathize. However, we would not work that way in practice. We want to serve the interests of the site, but through our vision first and foremost.
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4/5/2015 3:01:05 PM
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At 4/5/2015 1:18:50 PM, Mirza wrote:
This is not an official announcement of a presidential candidacy, but a formation of a new council composed of certain types of quality members who wish to cooperate to bring changes to the site. Together we will cooperate in order to make progress.

I will personally decide whether or not you fit very specific requirements I have in mind, but one of the qualities you must possess are the following: (a) You must be white/European. These two cannot be separated, so if you are "white" born outside of Europe, you are very likely to be pseudo-white, unless you have preserved your cultural/ethnic background entirely, plan on returning to your homeland, and do not consider a non-European country your own. If this is not met, you are not eligible to join; (b) You must be over 16 of age; (c) Have a philosophical and creative mind.

I only take offers in PM. Thanks.

Hello, Im here to lead the communist revolution.
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4/5/2015 3:01:10 PM
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I can trace my family tree, in some respects (British, Scottish), back to the 1600s... although records before German unification on that side of the family are nearly impossible to access.
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4/5/2015 3:04:51 PM
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At 4/5/2015 3:01:05 PM, komododragon8 wrote:
Hello, Im here to lead the communist revolution.
That's interesting. I'm sure we could find a way for both groups to function for the best interests of the site.
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4/5/2015 3:06:17 PM
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At 4/5/2015 1:18:50 PM, Mirza wrote:
This is not an official announcement of a presidential candidacy, but a formation of a new council composed of certain types of quality members who wish to cooperate to bring changes to the site. Together we will cooperate in order to make progress.

I will personally decide whether or not you fit very specific requirements I have in mind, but one of the qualities you must possess are the following: (a) You must be white/European. These two cannot be separated, so if you are "white" born outside of Europe, you are very likely to be pseudo-white, unless you have preserved your cultural/ethnic background entirely, plan on returning to your homeland, and do not consider a non-European country your own. If this is not met, you are not eligible to join; (b) You must be over 16 of age; (c) Have a philosophical and creative mind.

I only take offers in PM. Thanks.

Aren't you slavic?
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4/5/2015 3:07:10 PM
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At 4/5/2015 3:04:51 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/5/2015 3:01:05 PM, komododragon8 wrote:
Hello, Im here to lead the communist revolution.
That's interesting. I'm sure we could find a way for both groups to function for the best interests of the site.

nah prepare to be overthrown.
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4/5/2015 3:08:30 PM
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At 4/5/2015 2:13:58 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 4/5/2015 2:11:08 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/5/2015 2:07:37 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I know what you would like to change, and I support it. But how do you wish to accomplish integrating non-American things into the site when you are deliberately separating yourself from most of the user base?
I am surely not separating myself in most ways by forming this group. It is simply meant to function as a group who, together with the rest of the user-base, will try to make changes that suit us as well as others.

It just seems elitist to me. Like - "We are holier than thou, so listen to us because we said so."

You know this isn't serious?
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4/5/2015 3:10:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 3:08:30 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
You know this isn't serious?
I don't think it's appropriate to lash insults that way, Sir. Let us be civil and constructive.
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4/5/2015 3:11:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 3:10:52 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/5/2015 3:08:30 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
You know this isn't serious?
I don't think it's appropriate to lash insults that way, Sir. Let us be civil and constructive.

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4/5/2015 3:15:10 PM
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At 4/5/2015 1:18:50 PM, Mirza wrote:
This is not an official announcement of a presidential candidacy, but a formation of a new council composed of certain types of quality members who wish to cooperate to bring changes to the site. Together we will cooperate in order to make progress.

I will personally decide whether or not you fit very specific requirements I have in mind, but one of the qualities you must possess are the following: (a) You must be white/European. These two cannot be separated, so if you are "white" born outside of Europe, you are very likely to be pseudo-white, unless you have preserved your cultural/ethnic background entirely, plan on returning to your homeland, and do not consider a non-European country your own. If this is not met, you are not eligible to join; (b) You must be over 16 of age; (c) Have a philosophical and creative mind.

I only take offers in PM. Thanks.

I'm in full support of your plan, Sir.
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Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

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4/5/2015 3:17:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/5/2015 3:08:26 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/5/2015 3:07:10 PM, komododragon8 wrote:
nah prepare to be overthrown.
Ah, a troll. You shall be ignored.

More trollish than someone who makes a council which only allows white members.