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4/13/2015 1:21:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I realize this is a pretty common forum topic, but simply because I don't want to necropost, I restart this topic:

Who are the top 10 best debaters on DDO?

I recommend that people nominate members for the position. My *personal* opinion is that these members should be nominated, in no particular order:

Bluesteel
Raisor
bsh1
whiteflame
16kadams
RoyLatham
Danielle
Mikal
Subutai
thett3
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4/13/2015 1:28:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:21:32 PM, tejretics wrote:
I realize this is a pretty common forum topic, but simply because I don't want to necropost, I restart this topic:

Who are the top 10 best debaters on DDO?

I recommend that people nominate members for the position. My *personal* opinion is that these members should be nominated, in no particular order:

Bluesteel
Raisor
bsh1
whiteflame
16kadams
RoyLatham
Danielle
Mikal
Subutai
thett3

Whiteflame. That's it.
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4/13/2015 1:28:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Sig change.
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4/13/2015 1:30:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:25:52 PM, Mikal wrote:
The top 4 are not even debatable

Bluesteel
Raisor
bsh1
whiteflame


First being blue

then the bot 3 interchangeable

What about Roy v. bsh or Roy v. whiteflame?
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4/13/2015 1:31:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:25:52 PM, Mikal wrote:
The top 4 are not even debatable

Bluesteel
Raisor
bsh1
whiteflame


First being blue

then the bot 3 interchangeable

I suppose this is probably the most logical one, though :p
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4/13/2015 1:31:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I know judging by who beat who is a really lame measure but I think it is worth noting that both bluesteel and whiteflame are virtually undefeated despite having tons of debates with really good members. I think Raisor would have a good chance against either of them in a debate but on balance those two are the best
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4/13/2015 1:36:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I would not include myself in the top 10 debaters on DDO.
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4/13/2015 1:38:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:31:47 PM, thett3 wrote:
I know judging by who beat who is a really lame measure but I think it is worth noting that both bluesteel and whiteflame are virtually undefeated despite having tons of debates with really good members. I think Raisor would have a good chance against either of them in a debate but on balance those two are the best

Yep, it is a lame measure. By "v.", I meant a comparison. Yes, bluesteel and whiteflame are virtually undefeated and have great Elo ratings.

So far,
1. Bluesteel
2. whiteflame
3. Raisor
4. bsh

Thanks for all your contributions so far!
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4/13/2015 1:39:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:36:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I would not include myself in the top 10 debaters on DDO.

I don't reckon anyone would include themselves in the top 10 or anything, unless they're arrogant or way too rational.
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4/13/2015 1:40:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
O would say Bluesteel and Whiteflame first. Then probably 16kadams. Then it comes down to either Danielle or bsh.
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4/13/2015 1:40:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:39:37 PM, tejretics wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:36:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I would not include myself in the top 10 debaters on DDO.

I don't reckon anyone would include themselves in the top 10 or anything, unless they're arrogant or way too rational.

I am not really sure I agree with that. I think someone like bluesteel could, without arrogance, include himself in the top 10. As the saying goes, "it ain't bragging if it's true."
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4/13/2015 1:41:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
you forgot to add me on the list.
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4/13/2015 1:41:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:36:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I would not include myself in the top 10 debaters on DDO.

I feel your pain, I don't know that I would include myself either. It helps though to realize that you feel the full brunt of your weaknesses and failures--others don't. Unless you stalked me a ton you wouldn't know some of the truly stupid sh1t I did, and I you.
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4/13/2015 1:41:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
you forgot to add me on the list..
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4/13/2015 1:41:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:40:42 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:39:37 PM, tejretics wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:36:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I would not include myself in the top 10 debaters on DDO.

I don't reckon anyone would include themselves in the top 10 or anything, unless they're arrogant or way too rational.

I am not really sure I agree with that. I think someone like bluesteel could, without arrogance, include himself in the top 10. As the saying goes, "it ain't bragging if it's true."

Rational. Same thing.
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4/13/2015 1:41:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:41:04 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:36:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I would not include myself in the top 10 debaters on DDO.

I feel your pain, I don't know that I would include myself either. It helps though to realize that you feel the full brunt of your weaknesses and failures--others don't. Unless you stalked me a ton you wouldn't know some of the truly stupid sh1t I did, and I you.

I agree with that, though I definitely think you make top 10.
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4/13/2015 1:42:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:41:25 PM, tejretics wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:40:42 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:39:37 PM, tejretics wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:36:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I would not include myself in the top 10 debaters on DDO.

I don't reckon anyone would include themselves in the top 10 or anything, unless they're arrogant or way too rational.

I am not really sure I agree with that. I think someone like bluesteel could, without arrogance, include himself in the top 10. As the saying goes, "it ain't bragging if it's true."

Rational. Same thing.

Sure, "rational," but my quibble (since it's a minor point) is that you would have to be "way too rational" to do that.
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4/13/2015 1:43:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:42:43 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:41:25 PM, tejretics wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:40:42 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:39:37 PM, tejretics wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:36:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I would not include myself in the top 10 debaters on DDO.

I don't reckon anyone would include themselves in the top 10 or anything, unless they're arrogant or way too rational.

I am not really sure I agree with that. I think someone like bluesteel could, without arrogance, include himself in the top 10. As the saying goes, "it ain't bragging if it's true."

Rational. Same thing.

Sure, "rational," but my quibble (since it's a minor point) is that you would have to be "way too rational" to do that.

Yeah, "rational" is probably enough. {{Corrected}}
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4/13/2015 1:45:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:43:29 PM, Wylted wrote:
I really disagree with most people's top ten, but not as much as I disagree with their top 5s.

Who are your top 10?
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4/13/2015 1:47:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:45:29 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:43:29 PM, Wylted wrote:
I really disagree with most people's top ten, but not as much as I disagree with their top 5s.

Who are your top 10?

How 'bout you, Boi?
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4/13/2015 1:50:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:48:01 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
Bsh just acts modest as a subtle way to get props :p

Lol...maybe ;)

But, no, seriously. I don't think I am in the top 10. I am totally willing to brag about things, but I just don't think I am in the top in this case. I think I am in top 15 or 20, but not top 10.
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4/13/2015 1:58:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:25:52 PM, Mikal wrote:
The top 4 are not even debatable

Bluesteel
Raisor
bsh1
whiteflame


First being blue

then the bot 3 interchangeable

I think thett3 and roylatham are better than bsh1
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4/13/2015 1:58:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:41:53 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:41:04 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:36:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I would not include myself in the top 10 debaters on DDO.

I feel your pain, I don't know that I would include myself either. It helps though to realize that you feel the full brunt of your weaknesses and failures--others don't. Unless you stalked me a ton you wouldn't know some of the truly stupid sh1t I did, and I you.

I agree with that, though I definitely think you make top 10.

I'd like to be modest and disagree but I frankly have no idea. I have no clue what the quality of most of the newer members are, it's not like the old days where I read virtually every debate by everyone good for most people I doubt I had read more than maybe one. Even you I've only read a precious few of your debates.

And I really don't think I'm that good. I think I probably was when I was well practiced but I'm beyond rusty now that I barely seriously debate anymore. I made some serious tactical errors in my last debate for example--though to be fair to myself I was pretty aware of my error. I just wanted to talk about what I wanted to talk about even if it hurt me in the debate
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"My name is max. I'm not a big fan of slacks"- Max rapping

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: thett was right
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4/13/2015 2:00:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:31:47 PM, thett3 wrote:
I know judging by who beat who is a really lame measure but I think it is worth noting that both bluesteel and whiteflame are virtually undefeated despite having tons of debates with really good members. I think Raisor would have a good chance against either of them in a debate but on balance those two are the best

Raisor should be undefeated.
Almost all his losses were a result of terrible voting.
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4/13/2015 2:01:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:43:29 PM, Wylted wrote:
I really disagree with most people's top ten, but not as much as I disagree with their top 5s.

What's your's?
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4/13/2015 2:03:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 1:58:48 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:41:53 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:41:04 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 4/13/2015 1:36:56 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I would not include myself in the top 10 debaters on DDO.

I feel your pain, I don't know that I would include myself either. It helps though to realize that you feel the full brunt of your weaknesses and failures--others don't. Unless you stalked me a ton you wouldn't know some of the truly stupid sh1t I did, and I you.

I agree with that, though I definitely think you make top 10.

I'd like to be modest and disagree but I frankly have no idea. I have no clue what the quality of most of the newer members are, it's not like the old days where I read virtually every debate by everyone good for most people I doubt I had read more than maybe one. Even you I've only read a precious few of your debates.

Why don't you read debates anymore?


And I really don't think I'm that good. I think I probably was when I was well practiced but I'm beyond rusty now that I barely seriously debate anymore. I made some serious tactical errors in my last debate for example--though to be fair to myself I was pretty aware of my error. I just wanted to talk about what I wanted to talk about even if it hurt me in the debate
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