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5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.
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5/18/2015 11:02:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

Sure, I'll join. How about making a PM for this?
The thing is, I hate relativism. I hate relativism more than I hate everything else, excepting, maybe, fibreglass powerboats... What it overlooks, to put it briefly and crudely, is the fixed structure of human nature. - Jerry Fodor

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Response to conservative views on deforestation:
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5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?
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8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA
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5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.
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5/19/2015 10:35:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/19/2015 6:39:42 PM, RevNge wrote:
I can see Joey misreading "ecology" as "economy" in this thread.

That isn't wrong. Ecological damage is a kind of negative externality, i.e. it creates external cost. As there's a divergence between private and social costs, deadweight loss is incurred. It's as much an economic thing as it is an ecological thing.
The thing is, I hate relativism. I hate relativism more than I hate everything else, excepting, maybe, fibreglass powerboats... What it overlooks, to put it briefly and crudely, is the fixed structure of human nature. - Jerry Fodor

Don't be a stat cynic:
http://www.debate.org...

Response to conservative views on deforestation:
http://www.debate.org...

Topics I'd like to debate (not debating ATM): http://tinyurl.com...
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5/19/2015 11:15:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Can I crash the party by being a contrarian
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https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
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5/19/2015 11:21:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/19/2015 11:15:43 PM, 16kadams wrote:
Can I crash the party by being a contrarian

Only if you convince everyone that private property rights will truly solve the problem :P
The thing is, I hate relativism. I hate relativism more than I hate everything else, excepting, maybe, fibreglass powerboats... What it overlooks, to put it briefly and crudely, is the fixed structure of human nature. - Jerry Fodor

Don't be a stat cynic:
http://www.debate.org...

Response to conservative views on deforestation:
http://www.debate.org...

Topics I'd like to debate (not debating ATM): http://tinyurl.com...
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5/19/2015 11:29:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/19/2015 11:21:50 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 5/19/2015 11:15:43 PM, 16kadams wrote:
Can I crash the party by being a contrarian

Only if you convince everyone that private property rights will truly solve the problem :P

Or if I deny the problem ;D
https://www.youtube.com...
https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
"A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross
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5/19/2015 11:31:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/19/2015 11:29:42 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/19/2015 11:21:50 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 5/19/2015 11:15:43 PM, 16kadams wrote:
Can I crash the party by being a contrarian

Only if you convince everyone that private property rights will truly solve the problem :P

Or if I deny the problem ;D

That won't work on eco-club members :P
The thing is, I hate relativism. I hate relativism more than I hate everything else, excepting, maybe, fibreglass powerboats... What it overlooks, to put it briefly and crudely, is the fixed structure of human nature. - Jerry Fodor

Don't be a stat cynic:
http://www.debate.org...

Response to conservative views on deforestation:
http://www.debate.org...

Topics I'd like to debate (not debating ATM): http://tinyurl.com...
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5/20/2015 12:38:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/19/2015 11:31:02 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 5/19/2015 11:29:42 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/19/2015 11:21:50 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 5/19/2015 11:15:43 PM, 16kadams wrote:
Can I crash the party by being a contrarian

Only if you convince everyone that private property rights will truly solve the problem :P

Or if I deny the problem ;D

That won't work on eco-club members :P

They'll learn
https://www.youtube.com...
https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
"A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross
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5/20/2015 8:12:01 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.

Well it's fact. http://engineering.mit.edu...
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8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA
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5/20/2015 8:23:30 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:12:01 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.

Well it's fact. http://engineering.mit.edu...

Last time I checked being cheaper didn't mean being less damaging.
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5/20/2015 8:24:56 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:23:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:12:01 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.

Well it's fact. http://engineering.mit.edu...

Last time I checked being cheaper didn't mean being less damaging.

No, but it costs more energy which harms the envirnment more via recycling.
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

"If you are going through hell, keep going." "Sir Winston Churchill

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

Topics I want to debate. (http://tinyurl.com...)
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5/20/2015 8:28:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:24:56 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:23:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:12:01 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.

Well it's fact. http://engineering.mit.edu...

Last time I checked being cheaper didn't mean being less damaging.

No, but it costs more energy which harms the environment more via recycling.

If we were using green., renewable energy generation methods that wouldn't matter.
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5/20/2015 8:29:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:24:56 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:23:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:12:01 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.

Well it's fact. http://engineering.mit.edu...

Last time I checked being cheaper didn't mean being less damaging.

No, but it costs more energy which harms the envirnment more via recycling.

Also that is untrue, the expense is due to the science needed to determine how to combine plastics.
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5/20/2015 8:30:28 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:28:11 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:24:56 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:23:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:12:01 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.

Well it's fact. http://engineering.mit.edu...

Last time I checked being cheaper didn't mean being less damaging.

No, but it costs more energy which harms the environment more via recycling.

If we were using green., renewable energy generation methods that wouldn't matter.

What would you purpose then?
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

"If you are going through hell, keep going." "Sir Winston Churchill

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

Topics I want to debate. (http://tinyurl.com...)
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5/20/2015 8:31:30 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:30:28 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:28:11 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:24:56 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:23:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:12:01 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.

Well it's fact. http://engineering.mit.edu...

Last time I checked being cheaper didn't mean being less damaging.

No, but it costs more energy which harms the environment more via recycling.

If we were using green., renewable energy generation methods that wouldn't matter.

What would you purpose then?

what I'd propose is us having renewable energy, tax-funded of course and that we recycled everything that we're currently throwing out or at least decomposed of it efficiently.
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5/20/2015 8:36:42 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:31:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:30:28 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:28:11 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:24:56 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:23:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:12:01 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.

Well it's fact. http://engineering.mit.edu...

Last time I checked being cheaper didn't mean being less damaging.

No, but it costs more energy which harms the environment more via recycling.

If we were using green., renewable energy generation methods that wouldn't matter.

What would you purpose then?

what I'd propose is us having renewable energy, tax-funded of course and that we recycled everything that we're currently throwing out or at least decomposed of it efficiently.

I would like to see more Space Based Solar Power Satelites. That would get us tons of energy. Plus I would like to see us switch a lot of plasitics with bio-degradables. I don't think that a lot of the energy sector should be publically funded though.
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

"If you are going through hell, keep going." "Sir Winston Churchill

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

Topics I want to debate. (http://tinyurl.com...)
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5/20/2015 8:39:14 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:36:42 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:31:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:30:28 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:28:11 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:24:56 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:23:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:12:01 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.

Well it's fact. http://engineering.mit.edu...

Last time I checked being cheaper didn't mean being less damaging.

No, but it costs more energy which harms the environment more via recycling.

If we were using green., renewable energy generation methods that wouldn't matter.

What would you purpose then?

what I'd propose is us having renewable energy, tax-funded of course and that we recycled everything that we're currently throwing out or at least decomposed of it efficiently.

I would like to see more Space Based Solar Power Satellites. That would get us tons of energy. Plus I would like to see us switch a lot of plastics with bio-degradables. I don't think that a lot of the energy sector should be publically funded though.

What the hell would space based solar power do that earth based solar power could not? Anyway, why shouldn't it be publicly funded and why should any of it be publicly funded?
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5/20/2015 8:42:58 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:39:14 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:36:42 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:31:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:30:28 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:28:11 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:24:56 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:23:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:12:01 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.

Well it's fact. http://engineering.mit.edu...

Last time I checked being cheaper didn't mean being less damaging.

No, but it costs more energy which harms the environment more via recycling.

If we were using green., renewable energy generation methods that wouldn't matter.

What would you purpose then?

what I'd propose is us having renewable energy, tax-funded of course and that we recycled everything that we're currently throwing out or at least decomposed of it efficiently.

I would like to see more Space Based Solar Power Satellites. That would get us tons of energy. Plus I would like to see us switch a lot of plastics with bio-degradables. I don't think that a lot of the energy sector should be publically funded though.

What the hell would space based solar power do that earth based solar power could not? Anyway, why shouldn't it be publicly funded and why should any of it be publicly funded?

Space Based Solar Power gets 1000 times the energy Earth Based Solar Power does. It should be privately funded, because the federal government has other problems it needs to deal with before it can work on this issue.
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"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

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5/20/2015 8:46:44 AM
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At 5/20/2015 8:42:58 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:39:14 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:36:42 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:31:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:30:28 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:28:11 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:24:56 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:23:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:12:01 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.

Well it's fact. http://engineering.mit.edu...

Last time I checked being cheaper didn't mean being less damaging.

No, but it costs more energy which harms the environment more via recycling.

If we were using green., renewable energy generation methods that wouldn't matter.

What would you purpose then?

what I'd propose is us having renewable energy, tax-funded of course and that we recycled everything that we're currently throwing out or at least decomposed of it efficiently.

I would like to see more Space Based Solar Power Satellites. That would get us tons of energy. Plus I would like to see us switch a lot of plastics with bio-degradables. I don't think that a lot of the energy sector should be publically funded though.

What the hell would space based solar power do that earth based solar power could not? Anyway, why shouldn't it be publicly funded and why should any of it be publicly funded?

Space Based Solar Power gets 1000 times the energy Earth Based Solar Power does. It should be privately funded, because the federal government has other problems it needs to deal with before it can work on this issue.

What about wind and hydraulic power? What's your view on nuclear? Instead of wasting money on space solar power, we could simply have a variety.

I'm pretty sure the extinction of our species and wastage of resource is a top priority of the government.
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5/20/2015 8:52:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:46:44 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:42:58 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:39:14 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:36:42 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:31:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:30:28 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:28:11 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:24:56 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:23:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:12:01 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.

Well it's fact. http://engineering.mit.edu...

Last time I checked being cheaper didn't mean being less damaging.

No, but it costs more energy which harms the environment more via recycling.

If we were using green., renewable energy generation methods that wouldn't matter.

What would you purpose then?

what I'd propose is us having renewable energy, tax-funded of course and that we recycled everything that we're currently throwing out or at least decomposed of it efficiently.

I would like to see more Space Based Solar Power Satellites. That would get us tons of energy. Plus I would like to see us switch a lot of plastics with bio-degradables. I don't think that a lot of the energy sector should be publically funded though.

What the hell would space based solar power do that earth based solar power could not? Anyway, why shouldn't it be publicly funded and why should any of it be publicly funded?

Space Based Solar Power gets 1000 times the energy Earth Based Solar Power does. It should be privately funded, because the federal government has other problems it needs to deal with before it can work on this issue.

What about wind and hydraulic power? What's your view on nuclear? Instead of wasting money on space solar power, we could simply have a variety.

I'm pretty sure the extinction of our species and wastage of resource is a top priority of the government.

Wind isn't the most efficent. I like Hydraulic fraking, but not near heavily populated areas, and I find nuclear power to be really efficent, but it is dangerous, though it's the one that I like the most.
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5/20/2015 8:58:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:52:55 AM, lannan13 wrote:

Wind isn't the most efficient. I like Hydraulic fracking, but not near heavily populated areas, and I find nuclear power to be really efficient, but it is dangerous, though it's the one that I like the most.

I love you right-wing nutjobs.

Everything is about 'efficiency' until we realize that the most efficient nations on Earth are those that heavily tax their populace as opposed to those who have high tax evasion and barely any use for it.

Europe, China, Canada, Australia are all progressively taxed havens of efficiency. They have high rates of happiness and satisfaction throughout all of their income brackets.

USA has only got to where it has because it began to stop being a right-wing f***fest and actually began taxing heavier on its populace. Say what you want about Obama, USA is better than it ever was under Bush or any Republican. Frankly, I think Obama should have sent riot police to beat up the protesters when he suggested public healthcare and shouldn't have settled for the slightly more corrupt but sufficient option of medicare (as opposed to the original idea of Obamacare).

The rich gun owning heavily aggressive minority keeps dominating the poor majority of USA, Obama was the first president to begin fighting the peer pressure and I admire him for it, despite the hate he's received.
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5/20/2015 9:11:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:58:49 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:52:55 AM, lannan13 wrote:

Wind isn't the most efficient. I like Hydraulic fracking, but not near heavily populated areas, and I find nuclear power to be really efficient, but it is dangerous, though it's the one that I like the most.

I love you right-wing nutjobs.

Everything is about 'efficiency' until we realize that the most efficient nations on Earth are those that heavily tax their populace as opposed to those who have high tax evasion and barely any use for it.

No, that's mainly because JMK looked at the countries that weren't really affected by WW1 and based his economic model off of them. Others only used this flawed model because of his "correct" predictions. It's more apparent that the economic foundations of that of Milton Friedman are that of more economic success.

Europe, China, Canada, Australia are all progressively taxed havens of efficiency. They have high rates of happiness and satisfaction throughout all of their income brackets.

USA has only got to where it has because it began to stop being a right-wing f***fest and actually began taxing heavier on its populace. Say what you want about Obama, USA is better than it ever was under Bush or any Republican. Frankly, I think Obama should have sent riot police to beat up the protesters when he suggested public healthcare and shouldn't have settled for the slightly more corrupt but sufficient option of medicare (as opposed to the original idea of Obamacare).

The only credit I'll give Obama is that he killed Bin Ladin and that he helped us recover from the 2008 Crisis. Outside that he really hasn't done much.

The rich gun owning heavily aggressive minority keeps dominating the poor majority of USA, Obama was the first president to begin fighting the peer pressure and I admire him for it, despite the hate he's received.
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5/20/2015 9:15:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 9:11:44 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:58:49 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:52:55 AM, lannan13 wrote:

Wind isn't the most efficient. I like Hydraulic fracking, but not near heavily populated areas, and I find nuclear power to be really efficient, but it is dangerous, though it's the one that I like the most.

I love you right-wing nutjobs.

Everything is about 'efficiency' until we realize that the most efficient nations on Earth are those that heavily tax their populace as opposed to those who have high tax evasion and barely any use for it.

No, that's mainly because JMK looked at the countries that weren't really affected by WW1 and based his economic model off of them. Others only used this flawed model because of his "correct" predictions. It's more apparent that the economic foundations of that of Milton Friedman are that of more economic success.

Europe, China, Canada, Australia are all progressively taxed havens of efficiency. They have high rates of happiness and satisfaction throughout all of their income brackets.

USA has only got to where it has because it began to stop being a right-wing f***fest and actually began taxing heavier on its populace. Say what you want about Obama, USA is better than it ever was under Bush or any Republican. Frankly, I think Obama should have sent riot police to beat up the protesters when he suggested public healthcare and shouldn't have settled for the slightly more corrupt but sufficient option of medicare (as opposed to the original idea of Obamacare).

The only credit I'll give Obama is that he killed Bin Ladin and that he helped us recover from the 2008 Crisis. Outside that he really hasn't done much.

He didn't kill Bin Laden, he barely had anything to do with that, it was coincidence that the CIa and Navy SEALs honed in on Laden as Obama took the white house. That was, if anything, his least important achievement his whole presidency.

The rich gun owning heavily aggressive minority keeps dominating the poor majority of USA, Obama was the first president to begin fighting the peer pressure and I admire him for it, despite the hate he's received.
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5/20/2015 9:17:19 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 9:11:44 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:58:49 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:52:55 AM, lannan13 wrote:

Wind isn't the most efficient. I like Hydraulic fracking, but not near heavily populated areas, and I find nuclear power to be really efficient, but it is dangerous, though it's the one that I like the most.

I love you right-wing nutjobs.

Everything is about 'efficiency' until we realize that the most efficient nations on Earth are those that heavily tax their populace as opposed to those who have high tax evasion and barely any use for it.

No, that's mainly because JMK looked at the countries that weren't really affected by WW1 and based his economic model off of them. Others only used this flawed model because of his "correct" predictions. It's more apparent that the economic foundations of that of Milton Friedman are that of more economic success.

Where's your proof of this? Friedman-style countries are in severe poverty and debt (USa's debt is due to their capitalistic past, Obama simply inherited it).

Europe, China, Canada, Australia are all progressively taxed havens of efficiency. They have high rates of happiness and satisfaction throughout all of their income brackets.

USA has only got to where it has because it began to stop being a right-wing f***fest and actually began taxing heavier on its populace. Say what you want about Obama, USA is better than it ever was under Bush or any Republican. Frankly, I think Obama should have sent riot police to beat up the protesters when he suggested public healthcare and shouldn't have settled for the slightly more corrupt but sufficient option of medicare (as opposed to the original idea of Obamacare).

The only credit I'll give Obama is that he killed Bin Ladin and that he helped us recover from the 2008 Crisis. Outside that he really hasn't done much.

The rich gun owning heavily aggressive minority keeps dominating the poor majority of USA, Obama was the first president to begin fighting the peer pressure and I admire him for it, despite the hate he's received.
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5/20/2015 9:19:42 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 9:17:19 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 9:11:44 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:58:49 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:52:55 AM, lannan13 wrote:

Wind isn't the most efficient. I like Hydraulic fracking, but not near heavily populated areas, and I find nuclear power to be really efficient, but it is dangerous, though it's the one that I like the most.

I love you right-wing nutjobs.

Everything is about 'efficiency' until we realize that the most efficient nations on Earth are those that heavily tax their populace as opposed to those who have high tax evasion and barely any use for it.

No, that's mainly because JMK looked at the countries that weren't really affected by WW1 and based his economic model off of them. Others only used this flawed model because of his "correct" predictions. It's more apparent that the economic foundations of that of Milton Friedman are that of more economic success.

Where's your proof of this? Friedman-style countries are in severe poverty and debt (USa's debt is due to their capitalistic past, Obama simply inherited it).

Just simply read JMK's books. Any dolt with a brain can tell you this. Scandinavia wasn't that affected by WW1 and he targetted them to be the first to recover and this was the most obvious thing in the world. Friedman nations are excellerating just look at Russia, Estonia, and multiple others.

Europe, China, Canada, Australia are all progressively taxed havens of efficiency. They have high rates of happiness and satisfaction throughout all of their income brackets.

USA has only got to where it has because it began to stop being a right-wing f***fest and actually began taxing heavier on its populace. Say what you want about Obama, USA is better than it ever was under Bush or any Republican. Frankly, I think Obama should have sent riot police to beat up the protesters when he suggested public healthcare and shouldn't have settled for the slightly more corrupt but sufficient option of medicare (as opposed to the original idea of Obamacare).

The only credit I'll give Obama is that he killed Bin Ladin and that he helped us recover from the 2008 Crisis. Outside that he really hasn't done much.

The rich gun owning heavily aggressive minority keeps dominating the poor majority of USA, Obama was the first president to begin fighting the peer pressure and I admire him for it, despite the hate he's received.
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5/20/2015 9:21:39 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 9:19:42 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 9:17:19 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 9:11:44 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:58:49 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:52:55 AM, lannan13 wrote:

Wind isn't the most efficient. I like Hydraulic fracking, but not near heavily populated areas, and I find nuclear power to be really efficient, but it is dangerous, though it's the one that I like the most.

I love you right-wing nutjobs.

Everything is about 'efficiency' until we realize that the most efficient nations on Earth are those that heavily tax their populace as opposed to those who have high tax evasion and barely any use for it.

No, that's mainly because JMK looked at the countries that weren't really affected by WW1 and based his economic model off of them. Others only used this flawed model because of his "correct" predictions. It's more apparent that the economic foundations of that of Milton Friedman are that of more economic success.

Where's your proof of this? Friedman-style countries are in severe poverty and debt (USa's debt is due to their capitalistic past, Obama simply inherited it).

Just simply read JMK's books. Any dolt with a brain can tell you this. Scandinavia wasn't that affected by WW1 and he targetted them to be the first to recover and this was the most obvious thing in the world. Friedman nations are excellerating just look at Russia, Estonia, and multiple others.

Estonia is one of the most shameful nations in Europe, pathetic in all regards. As for Russia, that is not a Friedman style nation at all and for its size is one of the most pathetic nations if we measure what it's capable of doing versus what its land space is.
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5/20/2015 6:52:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:52:55 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:46:44 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:42:58 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:39:14 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:36:42 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:31:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:30:28 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:28:11 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:24:56 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:23:30 AM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/20/2015 8:12:01 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/19/2015 6:36:02 PM, 8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA wrote:
At 5/19/2015 10:03:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/18/2015 10:15:52 PM, eagleoftheeast wrote:
I believe we as debate.org should raise awareness to the ecological damage society has caused and to do this we should create a club.

You mean like how recycling plastic causes more damage than just making new plastic?

Sometimes you ultra-conservatives make the stereotypical versions of yourself look smart.

Well it's fact. http://engineering.mit.edu...

Last time I checked being cheaper didn't mean being less damaging.

No, but it costs more energy which harms the environment more via recycling.

If we were using green., renewable energy generation methods that wouldn't matter.

What would you purpose then?

what I'd propose is us having renewable energy, tax-funded of course and that we recycled everything that we're currently throwing out or at least decomposed of it efficiently.

I would like to see more Space Based Solar Power Satellites. That would get us tons of energy. Plus I would like to see us switch a lot of plastics with bio-degradables. I don't think that a lot of the energy sector should be publically funded though.

What the hell would space based solar power do that earth based solar power could not? Anyway, why shouldn't it be publicly funded and why should any of it be publicly funded?

Space Based Solar Power gets 1000 times the energy Earth Based Solar Power does. It should be privately funded, because the federal government has other problems it needs to deal with before it can work on this issue.

What about wind and hydraulic power? What's your view on nuclear? Instead of wasting money on space solar power, we could simply have a variety.

I'm pretty sure the extinction of our species and wastage of resource is a top priority of the government.

Wind isn't the most efficent. I like Hydraulic fraking, but not near heavily populated areas, and I find nuclear power to be really efficent, but it is dangerous, though it's the one that I like the most.

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