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Zaradi
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5/20/2015 7:49:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
In short: in the way you're suggesting, yes. But it's kinda hard to prove.

In Length: Voting arrangements where two people say "Hey, if you vote for me on all my debates and I'll vote for you on all your debates" are generally frowned on and very much against the rules. It damages the integrity of the debate and unfairly alters the outcome of the debate.

But, from what you have provided in this thread, I don't think you actually have enough to sufficiently show that such a thing is going on between the two users.

Without reading through the debates themselves, I took a look at all the votes you linked. 5 out of 6 of the vote taj placed were on forfeited debates, and the one vote that was on a non-ff'd debate didn't look too terribly fishy.

Midnight's votes look legit, as well.

At worst, I would maybe say that they have an agreement as friends where taj says "hey, I'll vote on one of your ff'd debates to make sure it has a vote if you take a look at one of my debates", which isn't against the rules.
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Valkrin
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5/20/2015 8:06:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 7:49:55 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Err, I meant in short no. Idk why I said yes xD

Because no always means yes.
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donald.keller
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5/20/2015 8:13:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 8:06:10 PM, Valkrin wrote:
At 5/20/2015 7:49:55 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Err, I meant in short no. Idk why I said yes xD

Because no always means yes.
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5/20/2015 8:13:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 7:49:00 PM, Zaradi wrote:
In short: in the way you're suggesting, yes. But it's kinda hard to prove.

In Length: Voting arrangements where two people say "Hey, if you vote for me on all my debates and I'll vote for you on all your debates" are generally frowned on and very much against the rules. It damages the integrity of the debate and unfairly alters the outcome of the debate.

But, from what you have provided in this thread, I don't think you actually have enough to sufficiently show that such a thing is going on between the two users.

Without reading through the debates themselves, I took a look at all the votes you linked. 5 out of 6 of the vote taj placed were on forfeited debates, and the one vote that was on a non-ff'd debate didn't look too terribly fishy.

Midnight's votes look legit, as well.

At worst, I would maybe say that they have an agreement as friends where taj says "hey, I'll vote on one of your ff'd debates to make sure it has a vote if you take a look at one of my debates", which isn't against the rules.

ok thanks.
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5/20/2015 8:41:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/20/2015 7:16:37 PM, Hoppi wrote:
Are voting agreements allowed on this site?

Because I just debated tajshar2k who seems to have some kind of set up with Midnight1131.

Midnight1131 always votes for him:

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And he always votes for Midnight1131:
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It okay, if Its a legit vote. Which it is. If you have problems against it, ask Midnight. I only asked him once to vote for me, and he just votes me here and there, so I return the favor.
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