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Biggest "don'ts" of a debate?

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5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.
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5/30/2015 3:27:30 PM
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Don't make bad arguments.
"Not to know of what things one should demand demonstration, and of what one should not, argues want of education." ~Aristotle

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5/30/2015 6:01:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

Assuming pragmatism.
I would prefer not to.
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5/30/2015 6:08:29 PM
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At 5/30/2015 6:01:04 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

Assuming pragmatism.

Assuming NAP.
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5/30/2015 6:09:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

Debate religion, ever.
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5/30/2015 7:25:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/30/2015 6:08:29 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 5/30/2015 6:01:04 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

Assuming pragmatism.

Assuming NAP.

rekt
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5/30/2015 7:26:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/30/2015 7:25:46 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/30/2015 6:08:29 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 5/30/2015 6:01:04 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

Assuming pragmatism.

Assuming NAP.

rekt

But that would violate the NAP!
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5/30/2015 7:26:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/30/2015 7:26:12 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 5/30/2015 7:25:46 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/30/2015 6:08:29 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 5/30/2015 6:01:04 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

Assuming pragmatism.

Assuming NAP.

rekt

But that would violate the NAP!

The benefits of reking outweigh the costs
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5/30/2015 7:28:14 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/30/2015 7:26:33 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/30/2015 7:26:12 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 5/30/2015 7:25:46 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/30/2015 6:08:29 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 5/30/2015 6:01:04 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

Assuming pragmatism.

Assuming NAP.

rekt

But that would violate the NAP!

The benefits of reking outweigh the costs

Aw, but that assumes util. But to justify util, you need to justify the actions of the four guys out at sea who, in an act of desperation, drew straws to decide which of them to kill for sustenance. Or, you know, diverting the trolling car to kill five in lieu of one.

Funny story is, I'm with Kant on both of those, lol
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5/30/2015 7:36:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

Squabbling over rules or technical things. I will bend over backwards to justify a conduct point against annoying little nerds who do that crap.
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5/30/2015 7:55:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Copying and pasting entire chunks of your opponent's argument into your own and surrounding them with quotation marks. Seriously, doing it for a line or two per round is fine, but I've seen it overdone and it's really annoying. We know what your opponent said, all we have to do is scroll up a bit to find it.
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5/30/2015 8:05:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Also, don't assert stuff. Assertions and bias will hurt your chances of winning. An example is saying "Colorado is a better state than Idaho becuase marijuana is legal there". You're asserting X is good without showing why X is good, unless it's something obviously bad like saying "crime is higher in Idaho".
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5/30/2015 9:06:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/30/2015 9:04:29 PM, Maikuru wrote:
Don't lose.

Thank you, with that info I will win all of my debates.
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5/31/2015 8:15:03 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

Assumptions would be my No. 1, but since that was already said...

I suppose single contention debates. Placing everything you have behind a single fort is futile if you aren't even going to pretend you have others. Developing extra points most certainly helps.

Also, committing any fallacy is awful. Familiarize yourself with all fallacies (or at least most of them) to ensure you do not do so.

These would probably be my three biggest tips. I hope that helps.
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5/31/2015 12:42:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

For me, quoting the Bible 20 trillion times and then telling me I will burn in hell if I don't love jesus and then put god in all caps all the time and use Lord in every sentence.
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5/31/2015 12:50:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/31/2015 12:42:41 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

For me, quoting the Bible 20 trillion times and then telling me I will burn in hell if I don't love jesus and then put god in all caps all the time and use Lord in every sentence.

https://www.youtube.com...

"Hallowed be thy name" (x 20 trillion times) Lord . U WILL BRUN IN HELL IF U DONT LAV JESUS AND GOD (LORD)
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5/31/2015 12:52:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/31/2015 12:50:53 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 5/31/2015 12:42:41 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

For me, quoting the Bible 20 trillion times and then telling me I will burn in hell if I don't love jesus and then put god in all caps all the time and use Lord in every sentence.

https://www.youtube.com...

"Hallowed be thy name" (x 20 trillion times) Lord . U WILL BRUN IN HELL IF U DONT LAV JESUS AND GOD (LORD)

*shuts eyes and covers ears with hands and yells, "lalalallalalallala!!!"
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5/31/2015 12:59:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/31/2015 12:52:07 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 5/31/2015 12:50:53 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 5/31/2015 12:42:41 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

For me, quoting the Bible 20 trillion times and then telling me I will burn in hell if I don't love jesus and then put god in all caps all the time and use Lord in every sentence.

https://www.youtube.com...

"Hallowed be thy name" (x 20 trillion times) Lord . U WILL BRUN IN HELL IF U DONT LAV JESUS AND GOD (LORD)

*shuts eyes and covers ears with hands and yells, "lalalallalalallala!!!"

IFU ANYWAN DAZU NAT RAB DA LAWD (JEZAZ KRAiST) DEN RET HIM BEE ACCUSED (OH LAWD CAM AAEEMAN!!)
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5/31/2015 2:01:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/30/2015 2:27:22 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Aside from the obvious (forfeiture,trolling,ad hominem etc) What would you consider to be the worst "red flags" of a debate. Or the things that you would avoid most during a debate.

Insulting one's intelligence with a lack thereof.
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5/31/2015 7:42:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Never debate creationism/evolution, most tedious topic known to man.
All the time your soul is craving and longing for something else. And in vain does the dreamer rummage about in his old dreams, raking them over as though they were a heap of cinders, looking in these cinders for some spark, however tiny, to fan it into a flame so as to warm his chilled blood by it and revive in it all that he held so dear before, all that touched his heart, that made his blood course through his veins, that drew tears from his eyes, and that so splendidly deceived him!