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6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
1. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst

We shouldn't expect the worst. Being a realist doesn't require you to give up any and all hope for progress - just prepare for no progress. Yes, we have been receiving the worst for a rather unfortunately long stretch of time, but let's not submit to defeat - we still have a lot to work with.

And to be honest, the site is already very good. All that's *really* needed is a mobile fix - which, even with Juggle's terrible track record - should happen eventually.

2. Prioritize the community over Juggle

In my view, Juggle should be pushed to the side and things that don't require them should be prioritized. I will vote for the candidacy that I think will be more competent at those things. What we want with Juggle isn't really a disputed issue - so let's not get too caught up in it.

3. What I want to see in the coming months

I think that whoever is elected should have the general user base do more things, rather than keep all responsibilities within those who ran in the ticket. It should be more balanced - helping the community grow will be better achieved with involvement. That's the reason I like the topics of the week - they can both increase activity and increase administration involvement.

4. Debatability's age

I am skeptical as to whether her age would actually matter, if elected President. I think she's done a good job in the mere week she's held the position - it isn't just Juggle. And on that note - if Juggle has any sense of maturity, they will listen to anyone who is elected by the membership.

5. Voting privileges (in the election)

I still think these need to be revamped more. If I recall correctly, it's 2 months of membership, 3 non-forfeited debates, 100 forum posts or 250 polls/opinion votes...something along those lines. I'd like it more comprehensive than that. If I had control over it, I would use this guideline:

Automatically eligible if one of the following applies: 1 year of membership, 1000 forum posts, 15 non-forfeited debates, 1000 polls/opinions votes.
6 months of membership - 3 non-forfeited debates or 500 forum posts, and if 3 non-forfeited debates, also 100 forum posts or 250 polls/opinion votes.
2 months of membership - 5 non-forfeited debates or 750 forum posts, and if 5 non-forfeited debates, also 250 forum posts or 375 polls/opinion votes.

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Just some random thoughts I had. Chime in, if you would.
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6/1/2015 6:20:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
1. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst

We shouldn't expect the worst. Being a realist doesn't require you to give up any and all hope for progress - just prepare for no progress. Yes, we have been receiving the worst for a rather unfortunately long stretch of time, but let's not submit to defeat - we still have a lot to work with.

And to be honest, the site is already very good. All that's *really* needed is a mobile fix - which, even with Juggle's terrible track record - should happen eventually.

2. Prioritize the community over Juggle

In my view, Juggle should be pushed to the side and things that don't require them should be prioritized. I will vote for the candidacy that I think will be more competent at those things. What we want with Juggle isn't really a disputed issue - so let's not get too caught up in it.

3. What I want to see in the coming months

I think that whoever is elected should have the general user base do more things, rather than keep all responsibilities within those who ran in the ticket. It should be more balanced - helping the community grow will be better achieved with involvement. That's the reason I like the topics of the week - they can both increase activity and increase administration involvement.

4. Debatability's age

I am skeptical as to whether her age would actually matter, if elected President. I think she's done a good job in the mere week she's held the position - it isn't just Juggle. And on that note - if Juggle has any sense of maturity, they will listen to anyone who is elected by the membership.

5. Voting privileges (in the election)

I still think these need to be revamped more. If I recall correctly, it's 2 months of membership, 3 non-forfeited debates, 100 forum posts or 250 polls/opinion votes...something along those lines. I'd like it more comprehensive than that. If I had control over it, I would use this guideline:

Automatically eligible if one of the following applies: 1 year of membership, 1000 forum posts, 15 non-forfeited debates, 1000 polls/opinions votes.
6 months of membership - 3 non-forfeited debates or 500 forum posts, and if 3 non-forfeited debates, also 100 forum posts or 250 polls/opinion votes.
2 months of membership - 5 non-forfeited debates or 750 forum posts, and if 5 non-forfeited debates, also 250 forum posts or 375 polls/opinion votes.

That's a little bit much. I'm happy with the requirements now.
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Just some random thoughts I had. Chime in, if you would.
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6/1/2015 6:23:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Sorry for derailing this, but:
I just discovered that if you're using a laptop and you zoom in enough, it'll switch to the Mobile Version.
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6/1/2015 6:37:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:26:00 PM, Garbanza wrote:
Aren't you on bsh1's campaign team? Why are you pretending to be impartial?

I am not on his campaign team.
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6/1/2015 6:40:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I have problems with 2.

Juggle is an issue, the community isn't (exactly) a problem.

Don't get me wrong, I think its great that we help build our community; that can always be improved upon, but it is not an issue if you catch my drift.

Yet Juggle is an extremely important problem for our beloved DDO, it restricts our potential, it restricts our progression, it restricts our growth.

We need to fix the most important problems, before we move onto smaller ones (community improvement). We need to fix Juggle.
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6/1/2015 6:48:08 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
1. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst

We shouldn't expect the worst. Being a realist doesn't require you to give up any and all hope for progress - just prepare for no progress. Yes, we have been receiving the worst for a rather unfortunately long stretch of time, but let's not submit to defeat - we still have a lot to work with.

And to be honest, the site is already very good. All that's *really* needed is a mobile fix - which, even with Juggle's terrible track record - should happen eventually.

I think that's very well said.

2. Prioritize the community over Juggle

In my view, Juggle should be pushed to the side and things that don't require them should be prioritized. I will vote for the candidacy that I think will be more competent at those things. What we want with Juggle isn't really a disputed issue - so let's not get too caught up in it.

I gully agree with this too.

3. What I want to see in the coming months

I think that whoever is elected should have the general user base do more things, rather than keep all responsibilities within those who ran in the ticket. It should be more balanced - helping the community grow will be better achieved with involvement. That's the reason I like the topics of the week - they can both increase activity and increase administration involvement.

4. Debatability's age

I am skeptical as to whether her age would actually matter, if elected President. I think she's done a good job in the mere week she's held the position - it isn't just Juggle. And on that note - if Juggle has any sense of maturity, they will listen to anyone who is elected by the membership.

I don't think her age is the reason that Juggle wouldn't take her seriously, but I do think that her age would limit her ability to negotiate with them and collaborate with them.

It would have been better if Debate had just run with Bsh1, and I'm sure that he'll find a way to utilize what she brings to the table if he wins.
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6/1/2015 6:49:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:40:34 PM, Hayd wrote:
We need to fix the most important problems, before we move onto smaller ones (community improvement). We need to fix Juggle.

Ore_ele was a mod and he worked with Juggle to put the elo in place. They knew him and also he's moderately charming/diplomatic. If he couldn't get them to answer his emails then some anonymous 20 yr old or something 16 yr old debate enthusiast have no chance at all. Neither of them have any expertise with making money from online discussion sites. Neither of them can influence traffic here. They can't do anything about Juggle. The presidency is irrelevant to this.
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6/1/2015 6:49:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:40:34 PM, Hayd wrote:
I have problems with 2.

Juggle is an issue, the community isn't (exactly) a problem.

Don't get me wrong, I think its great that we help build our community; that can always be improved upon, but it is not an issue if you catch my drift.

Yet Juggle is an extremely important problem for our beloved DDO, it restricts our potential, it restricts our progression, it restricts our growth.

We need to fix the most important problems, before we move onto smaller ones (community improvement). We need to fix Juggle.

But which is, according to history, more practical to focus on?
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6/1/2015 6:51:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
4. Debatability's age

I am skeptical as to whether her age would actually matter, if elected President. I think she's done a good job in the mere week she's held the position - it isn't just Juggle. And on that note - if Juggle has any sense of maturity, they will listen to anyone who is elected by the membership.
Is she running, or no? I've heard rumours and 'maybes' but never a confirmed statement. Unless I just totally missed it. lol.
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6/1/2015 6:52:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:51:42 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
4. Debatability's age

I am skeptical as to whether her age would actually matter, if elected President. I think she's done a good job in the mere week she's held the position - it isn't just Juggle. And on that note - if Juggle has any sense of maturity, they will listen to anyone who is elected by the membership.
Is she running, or no? I've heard rumours and 'maybes' but never a confirmed statement. Unless I just totally missed it. lol.

Yup, she declared a few days ago. Thett is her running mate.
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6/1/2015 6:52:16 PM
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At 6/1/2015 6:51:42 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
4. Debatability's age

I am skeptical as to whether her age would actually matter, if elected President. I think she's done a good job in the mere week she's held the position - it isn't just Juggle. And on that note - if Juggle has any sense of maturity, they will listen to anyone who is elected by the membership.
Is she running, or no? I've heard rumours and 'maybes' but never a confirmed statement. Unless I just totally missed it. lol.

Yeah, she is.
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6/1/2015 6:52:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:51:42 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
4. Debatability's age

I am skeptical as to whether her age would actually matter, if elected President. I think she's done a good job in the mere week she's held the position - it isn't just Juggle. And on that note - if Juggle has any sense of maturity, they will listen to anyone who is elected by the membership.
Is she running, or no? I've heard rumours and 'maybes' but never a confirmed statement. Unless I just totally missed it. lol.

She's running with Thett.
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6/1/2015 6:52:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:48:08 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
2. Prioritize the community over Juggle

I gully agree with this too.

*fully
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6/1/2015 6:53:29 PM
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At 6/1/2015 6:52:37 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:48:08 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
2. Prioritize the community over Juggle

I gully agree with this too.

*fully

I got like 1.5 hours of sleep last night, so yeah... I clearly cannot type.
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6/1/2015 6:54:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:53:29 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:52:37 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:48:08 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
2. Prioritize the community over Juggle

I gully agree with this too.

*fully

I got like 1.5 hours of sleep last night, so yeah... I clearly cannot type.

Lol. Go sleep omg XD
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6/1/2015 6:56:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
5. Voting privileges (in the election)

I agree that we should change the voting requirements. I've never really been one to talk on the forums (more of a lurker) or the opinions/polls function of DDO, but is what I want to happen worth less than someone who pretty much only talk on the forums? I know what I want to happen with a new president but I can't vote if there isn't any changes. I'm also not going to spam the opinions/polls/forums until election day so I can have a voice in a democracy, I think that my voice should be there anyways.
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6/1/2015 6:58:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:52:17 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:51:42 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
4. Debatability's age

I am skeptical as to whether her age would actually matter, if elected President. I think she's done a good job in the mere week she's held the position - it isn't just Juggle. And on that note - if Juggle has any sense of maturity, they will listen to anyone who is elected by the membership.
Is she running, or no? I've heard rumours and 'maybes' but never a confirmed statement. Unless I just totally missed it. lol.

She's running with Thett.
Did she say that in hangouts? I anticipate her platform..

That sort of throws a wrench in me hoping it'd be an easily decided election.. both are great candidates.

Also, I agree with you 100% in terms of prioritization. I think incorporating bug fixes and Juggle-dependent reforms into your platform is heading in sort of the wrong direction - past presidencies have proved that really doesn't work.

Rather, I'd like to see the community sort of build an independence from Juggle, who are clearly not willing to cooperate with the site; with the president at the helm of this. In all honesty, I'd much rather the president spend much of the time he'd take up trying to reach juggle for something better. That being said, the president simply trying doesn't harm anyone, it's the context and the extent to which their platform depends on Juggle cooperating.
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6/1/2015 7:01:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:58:39 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:52:17 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:51:42 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
4. Debatability's age

I am skeptical as to whether her age would actually matter, if elected President. I think she's done a good job in the mere week she's held the position - it isn't just Juggle. And on that note - if Juggle has any sense of maturity, they will listen to anyone who is elected by the membership.
Is she running, or no? I've heard rumours and 'maybes' but never a confirmed statement. Unless I just totally missed it. lol.

She's running with Thett.
Did she say that in hangouts? I anticipate her platform..

That sort of throws a wrench in me hoping it'd be an easily decided election.. both are great candidates.

Also, I agree with you 100% in terms of prioritization. I think incorporating bug fixes and Juggle-dependent reforms into your platform is heading in sort of the wrong direction - past presidencies have proved that really doesn't work.

Rather, I'd like to see the community sort of build an independence from Juggle, who are clearly not willing to cooperate with the site; with the president at the helm of this. In all honesty, I'd much rather the president spend much of the time he'd take up trying to reach juggle for something better. That being said, the president simply trying doesn't harm anyone, it's the context and the extent to which their platform depends on Juggle cooperating.

No she made a thread in this forum about it. She said she would post her platform today i think
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6/1/2015 7:11:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:49:19 PM, Garbanza wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:40:34 PM, Hayd wrote:
We need to fix the most important problems, before we move onto smaller ones (community improvement). We need to fix Juggle.

Ore_ele was a mod and he worked with Juggle to put the elo in place. They knew him and also he's moderately charming/diplomatic. If he couldn't get them to answer his emails then some anonymous 20 yr old or something 16 yr old debate enthusiast have no chance at all. Neither of them have any expertise with making money from online discussion sites. Neither of them can influence traffic here. They can't do anything about Juggle. The presidency is irrelevant to this.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is so true
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6/1/2015 7:31:59 PM
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At 6/1/2015 6:56:55 PM, Lexus wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
5. Voting privileges (in the election)

I agree that we should change the voting requirements. I've never really been one to talk on the forums (more of a lurker) or the opinions/polls function of DDO, but is what I want to happen worth less than someone who pretty much only talk on the forums? I know what I want to happen with a new president but I can't vote if there isn't any changes. I'm also not going to spam the opinions/polls/forums until election day so I can have a voice in a democracy, I think that my voice should be there anyways.

Not appearing in the forums means you're not regularly interacting with members of the community in a way that can be verified. The presidency is all about serving as an elected representative of the people. You may read them constantly and be up-to-date, but that's not something Airmax can verify. You should come in, join the party, be part of everyone else.
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6/1/2015 7:42:39 PM
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At 6/1/2015 7:31:59 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:56:55 PM, Lexus wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
5. Voting privileges (in the election)

I agree that we should change the voting requirements. I've never really been one to talk on the forums (more of a lurker) or the opinions/polls function of DDO, but is what I want to happen worth less than someone who pretty much only talk on the forums? I know what I want to happen with a new president but I can't vote if there isn't any changes. I'm also not going to spam the opinions/polls/forums until election day so I can have a voice in a democracy, I think that my voice should be there anyways.

Not appearing in the forums means you're not regularly interacting with members of the community in a way that can be verified. The presidency is all about serving as an elected representative of the people. You may read them constantly and be up-to-date, but that's not something Airmax can verify. You should come in, join the party, be part of everyone else.

I totally disagree. This is debate.org, not forum.org. Established debaters who rarely or never post in the forums absolutely deserve to have a say.
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6/1/2015 7:45:14 PM
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At 6/1/2015 7:42:39 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/1/2015 7:31:59 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:56:55 PM, Lexus wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
5. Voting privileges (in the election)

I agree that we should change the voting requirements. I've never really been one to talk on the forums (more of a lurker) or the opinions/polls function of DDO, but is what I want to happen worth less than someone who pretty much only talk on the forums? I know what I want to happen with a new president but I can't vote if there isn't any changes. I'm also not going to spam the opinions/polls/forums until election day so I can have a voice in a democracy, I think that my voice should be there anyways.

Not appearing in the forums means you're not regularly interacting with members of the community in a way that can be verified. The presidency is all about serving as an elected representative of the people. You may read them constantly and be up-to-date, but that's not something Airmax can verify. You should come in, join the party, be part of everyone else.

I totally disagree. This is debate.org, not forum.org. Established debaters who rarely or never post in the forums absolutely deserve to have a say.

Then there should be a minimum number of debates, more than 3...
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6/1/2015 8:02:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 7:45:14 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/1/2015 7:42:39 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/1/2015 7:31:59 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:56:55 PM, Lexus wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
5. Voting privileges (in the election)

I agree that we should change the voting requirements. I've never really been one to talk on the forums (more of a lurker) or the opinions/polls function of DDO, but is what I want to happen worth less than someone who pretty much only talk on the forums? I know what I want to happen with a new president but I can't vote if there isn't any changes. I'm also not going to spam the opinions/polls/forums until election day so I can have a voice in a democracy, I think that my voice should be there anyways.

Not appearing in the forums means you're not regularly interacting with members of the community in a way that can be verified. The presidency is all about serving as an elected representative of the people. You may read them constantly and be up-to-date, but that's not something Airmax can verify. You should come in, join the party, be part of everyone else.

I totally disagree. This is debate.org, not forum.org. Established debaters who rarely or never post in the forums absolutely deserve to have a say.

Then there should be a minimum number of debates, more than 3...

Three debates with no forfeits on either side sounds reasonable but either way debates > forums. In my early days on the site Roy had at most a couple hundred forum posts. But he absolutely was a member of the community and deserved a say
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6/1/2015 8:14:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
1. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst

We shouldn't expect the worst. Being a realist doesn't require you to give up any and all hope for progress - just prepare for no progress. Yes, we have been receiving the worst for a rather unfortunately long stretch of time, but let's not submit to defeat - we still have a lot to work with.

And to be honest, the site is already very good. All that's *really* needed is a mobile fix - which, even with Juggle's terrible track record - should happen eventually.

I generally, but cautiously, agree with this...

2. Prioritize the community over Juggle

I also agree with this...100%

3. What I want to see in the coming months

I think that whoever is elected should have the general user base do more things

Also agreed.

5. Voting privileges (in the election)

I still think these need to be revamped more. If I recall correctly, it's 2 months of membership, 3 non-forfeited debates, 100 forum posts or 250 polls/opinion votes...something along those lines. I'd like it more comprehensive than that.

This was my plan: http://www.debate.org...

It's definitely something I think should be discussed after the election.
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6/1/2015 9:29:21 PM
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Bump because of stalker spam.
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6/1/2015 9:36:58 PM
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At 6/1/2015 6:49:19 PM, Garbanza wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:40:34 PM, Hayd wrote:
We need to fix the most important problems, before we move onto smaller ones (community improvement). We need to fix Juggle.

Ore_ele was a mod and he worked with Juggle to put the elo in place. They knew him and also he's moderately charming/diplomatic. If he couldn't get them to answer his emails then some anonymous 20 yr old or something 16 yr old debate enthusiast have no chance at all. Neither of them have any expertise with making money from online discussion sites. Neither of them can influence traffic here. They can't do anything about Juggle. The presidency is irrelevant to this.

You just summed up this election.
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6/1/2015 9:45:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 7:42:39 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 6/1/2015 7:31:59 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:56:55 PM, Lexus wrote:
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
5. Voting privileges (in the election)

I agree that we should change the voting requirements. I've never really been one to talk on the forums (more of a lurker) or the opinions/polls function of DDO, but is what I want to happen worth less than someone who pretty much only talk on the forums? I know what I want to happen with a new president but I can't vote if there isn't any changes. I'm also not going to spam the opinions/polls/forums until election day so I can have a voice in a democracy, I think that my voice should be there anyways.

Not appearing in the forums means you're not regularly interacting with members of the community in a way that can be verified. The presidency is all about serving as an elected representative of the people. You may read them constantly and be up-to-date, but that's not something Airmax can verify. You should come in, join the party, be part of everyone else.

I totally disagree. This is debate.org, not forum.org. Established debaters who rarely or never post in the forums absolutely deserve to have a say.

It's not like it's difficult to participate in the forums. Debates are an intensive one-on-one experience here. They're hardly reflective of a community. I don't want someone who never talks to other people in a position of power over me.
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6/2/2015 2:05:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/1/2015 6:02:19 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
1. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst

We shouldn't expect the worst. Being a realist doesn't require you to give up any and all hope for progress - just prepare for no progress. Yes, we have been receiving the worst for a rather unfortunately long stretch of time, but let's not submit to defeat - we still have a lot to work with.

And to be honest, the site is already very good. All that's *really* needed is a mobile fix - which, even with Juggle's terrible track record - should happen eventually.

2. Prioritize the community over Juggle

In my view, Juggle should be pushed to the side and things that don't require them should be prioritized. I will vote for the candidacy that I think will be more competent at those things. What we want with Juggle isn't really a disputed issue - so let's not get too caught up in it.

3. What I want to see in the coming months

I think that whoever is elected should have the general user base do more things, rather than keep all responsibilities within those who ran in the ticket. It should be more balanced - helping the community grow will be better achieved with involvement. That's the reason I like the topics of the week - they can both increase activity and increase administration involvement.

4. Debatability's age

I am skeptical as to whether her age would actually matter, if elected President. I think she's done a good job in the mere week she's held the position - it isn't just Juggle. And on that note - if Juggle has any sense of maturity, they will listen to anyone who is elected by the membership.

5. Voting privileges (in the election)

I still think these need to be revamped more. If I recall correctly, it's 2 months of membership, 3 non-forfeited debates, 100 forum posts or 250 polls/opinion votes...something along those lines. I'd like it more comprehensive than that. If I had control over it, I would use this guideline:

Automatically eligible if one of the following applies: 1 year of membership, 1000 forum posts, 15 non-forfeited debates, 1000 polls/opinions votes.
6 months of membership - 3 non-forfeited debates or 500 forum posts, and if 3 non-forfeited debates, also 100 forum posts or 250 polls/opinion votes.
2 months of membership - 5 non-forfeited debates or 750 forum posts, and if 5 non-forfeited debates, also 250 forum posts or 375 polls/opinion votes.

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Just some random thoughts I had. Chime in, if you would.

I completely agree.
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