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6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.
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6/22/2015 2:19:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
That is a sad topic for an academic paper.
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6/22/2015 2:21:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/22/2015 2:19:29 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
That is a sad topic for an academic paper.

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6/22/2015 2:48:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...


"Thus, while one could argue that Debate.org is a democracy in some ways, a deeper analysis reveals that it could no doubt be made more democratic than it currently is."

Talk about a weak conclusion.
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6/22/2015 5:29:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

The conspiracy that we're all the same person? Or a different conspiracy?
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6/22/2015 6:35:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Ha I came across this paper years ago and sent it to PCP. I don't feel like reading it again but I wonder what the point of it was...
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6/22/2015 11:18:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
The entire premise of the paper is flawed, as voting on debates isn't really a democratic process. Voting is a means of selecting a winner by aggregating the opinions of judges, but it doesn't seek to embody democratic values like fair representation and universal suffrage.

Anyways the best line in the paper:

"Debate.org is a fascinating community. It is a community based on debate and,
theoretically, really should not work as well as it does."
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6/22/2015 11:51:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/22/2015 10:05:23 PM, YYW wrote:
I am very displeased that I am not mentioned. Clearly, this paper is inferior.

It was published in 2010; we showed up in 2011 or 2012
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6/23/2015 12:12:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

That's pretty hilarious. I feel embarrassed for U of T. Great school for the most part.
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6/23/2015 12:13:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

Also, I don't think this is a "real academic paper", though I could be wrong. Is it published in an academic journal, or just hosted online?
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6/23/2015 12:15:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/23/2015 12:13:47 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

Also, I don't think this is a "real academic paper", though I could be wrong. Is it published in an academic journal, or just hosted online?

It looks like people from the University of Toronto wrote it. I don't know if it is peer-reviewed, though.
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6/23/2015 12:15:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/23/2015 12:15:06 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:13:47 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

Also, I don't think this is a "real academic paper", though I could be wrong. Is it published in an academic journal, or just hosted online?

It looks like people from the University of Toronto wrote it. I don't know if it is peer-reviewed, though.

It was probably Heritage :P
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6/23/2015 12:16:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/23/2015 12:15:49 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:06 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:13:47 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

Also, I don't think this is a "real academic paper", though I could be wrong. Is it published in an academic journal, or just hosted online?

It looks like people from the University of Toronto wrote it. I don't know if it is peer-reviewed, though.

It was probably Heritage :P

lolol
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6/23/2015 12:16:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/23/2015 12:15:49 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:06 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:13:47 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

Also, I don't think this is a "real academic paper", though I could be wrong. Is it published in an academic journal, or just hosted online?

It looks like people from the University of Toronto wrote it. I don't know if it is peer-reviewed, though.

It was probably Heritage :P

writing style more like American Center for Progress m8
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https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
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6/23/2015 12:17:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/23/2015 12:16:38 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:49 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:06 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:13:47 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

Also, I don't think this is a "real academic paper", though I could be wrong. Is it published in an academic journal, or just hosted online?

It looks like people from the University of Toronto wrote it. I don't know if it is peer-reviewed, though.

It was probably Heritage :P

writing style more like American Center for Progress m8

Yeah, that sounds about right. Or the EPI.

(This is where you ask, which EPI? lol.)
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6/23/2015 12:20:36 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/23/2015 12:15:06 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:13:47 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

Also, I don't think this is a "real academic paper", though I could be wrong. Is it published in an academic journal, or just hosted online?

It looks like people from the University of Toronto wrote it. I don't know if it is peer-reviewed, though.

I looked up the authors, and my best guess is that they were undergraduates, possibly masters students, at the school of information at U of T. I don't think this was peer-reviewed.

I studied some machine learning with Geoff Hinton at U of T, but I hadn't heard of the school of information until now.
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6/23/2015 12:22:46 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/23/2015 12:20:36 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:06 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:13:47 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

Also, I don't think this is a "real academic paper", though I could be wrong. Is it published in an academic journal, or just hosted online?

It looks like people from the University of Toronto wrote it. I don't know if it is peer-reviewed, though.

I looked up the authors, and my best guess is that they were undergraduates, possibly masters students, at the school of information at U of T. I don't think this was peer-reviewed.

I studied some machine learning with Geoff Hinton at U of T, but I hadn't heard of the school of information until now.

still interesting that someone from the outside found this website interesting XD
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6/23/2015 12:23:53 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/23/2015 12:17:21 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:16:38 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:49 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:06 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:13:47 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

Also, I don't think this is a "real academic paper", though I could be wrong. Is it published in an academic journal, or just hosted online?

It looks like people from the University of Toronto wrote it. I don't know if it is peer-reviewed, though.

It was probably Heritage :P

writing style more like American Center for Progress m8

Yeah, that sounds about right. Or the EPI.

Didn't talk about labor union being good, not EPI


(This is where you ask, which EPI? lol.)

Didn't talk about minimum wages being bad, not EPI

Maybe... NCPA?!?!?!?!
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6/23/2015 12:27:24 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/23/2015 12:22:46 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:20:36 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:06 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:13:47 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

Also, I don't think this is a "real academic paper", though I could be wrong. Is it published in an academic journal, or just hosted online?

It looks like people from the University of Toronto wrote it. I don't know if it is peer-reviewed, though.

I looked up the authors, and my best guess is that they were undergraduates, possibly masters students, at the school of information at U of T. I don't think this was peer-reviewed.

I studied some machine learning with Geoff Hinton at U of T, but I hadn't heard of the school of information until now.

still interesting that someone from the outside found this website interesting XD

Agreed.

By the way, the comment about the school of information was just me externalizing what a "school of information is" if it has nothing to do with information theory, but realized it's about managing museums and libraries and whatnot. Pretty off topic, either way (it's late).
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6/23/2015 12:27:31 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/23/2015 12:23:53 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:17:21 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:16:38 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:49 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:06 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:13:47 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

Also, I don't think this is a "real academic paper", though I could be wrong. Is it published in an academic journal, or just hosted online?

It looks like people from the University of Toronto wrote it. I don't know if it is peer-reviewed, though.

It was probably Heritage :P

writing style more like American Center for Progress m8

Yeah, that sounds about right. Or the EPI.

Didn't talk about labor union being good, not EPI

Could be the other EPI!


(This is where you ask, which EPI? lol.)

Didn't talk about minimum wages being bad, not EPI

True!

Maybe... NCPA?!?!?!?!

What's that?
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6/23/2015 12:28:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/23/2015 12:27:31 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:23:53 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:17:21 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:16:38 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:49 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:06 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:13:47 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

Also, I don't think this is a "real academic paper", though I could be wrong. Is it published in an academic journal, or just hosted online?

It looks like people from the University of Toronto wrote it. I don't know if it is peer-reviewed, though.

It was probably Heritage :P

writing style more like American Center for Progress m8

Yeah, that sounds about right. Or the EPI.

Didn't talk about labor union being good, not EPI

Could be the other EPI!

no



(This is where you ask, which EPI? lol.)

Didn't talk about minimum wages being bad, not EPI

True!

yup


Maybe... NCPA?!?!?!?!

What's that?

http://www.ncpa.org...

I read like every think tank lol
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6/23/2015 12:30:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/23/2015 12:28:21 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:27:31 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:23:53 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:17:21 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:16:38 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:49 AM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:15:06 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/23/2015 12:13:47 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 6/22/2015 2:13:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Thett and I are blatantly trying to get into the HOF at the last minute. But we have a good post to discuss.

Someone actually wrote an academic paper about DDO. http://www.grpatten.com...

Some users, like danielle (theLwerd) and popculturepooka are mentioned by name.

One of the article's main premises is that voting should be anonymous. The authors were clearly not aware of DDO history: voting was once anonymous, and it was terrible. People voted for themselves and created vote bombing cliques. It's fun to read some of the stuff they recommend, as they are outsides who haven't participated much in the site. TheLwerd (danielle's old account) was actually guilty of voting for itself *numerous* times, even when she assured her opponent over and over that she hadn't.

The article ultimately concludes that DDO is falsely democratic because the moderators really run the site. It's not run by the users. I'm surprised wrich and the anti-airmax brigade haven't cited this. It's a real academic paper proving their point.

Someone should reach out to the authors and tell them about the airmax/bladerunner conspiracy and see if they'll write a followup paper. That would be fascinating.

Also, I don't think this is a "real academic paper", though I could be wrong. Is it published in an academic journal, or just hosted online?

It looks like people from the University of Toronto wrote it. I don't know if it is peer-reviewed, though.

It was probably Heritage :P

writing style more like American Center for Progress m8

Yeah, that sounds about right. Or the EPI.

Didn't talk about labor union being good, not EPI

Could be the other EPI!

no

Eh



(This is where you ask, which EPI? lol.)

Didn't talk about minimum wages being bad, not EPI

True!

yup


Maybe... NCPA?!?!?!?!

What's that?

http://www.ncpa.org...

I read like every think tank lol

Ahhhhh.
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6/23/2015 11:33:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Once I manage to get into university and take a discourse analysis course, I've gotta write a paper on DDO too. There are so many interesting aspects of DDOlect.

For example, I have never written this before joining DDO:

Sentence, lol.

Now I do this on a daily basis because so many on DDO use it, lol. In the past, I have always used LOL. Even if I do use lol, it's at the beginning of a sentence:

Lol, that's funny.
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6/23/2015 12:49:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/23/2015 11:33:34 AM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
Once I manage to get into university and take a discourse analysis course, I've gotta write a paper on DDO too. There are so many interesting aspects of DDOlect.

For example, I have never written this before joining DDO:

Sentence, lol.

Now I do this on a daily basis because so many on DDO use it, lol. In the past, I have always used LOL. Even if I do use lol, it's at the beginning of a sentence:

Lol, that's funny.

lol
https://www.youtube.com...
https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
"A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross