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Mirza
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7/30/2015 7:51:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
When it comes to exceptionally good entertainment, you, my American fellows, are certainly among the top producers. I thank you very much for that. Today I'll just share a video I got reminded of, and thought you would like it too. I don't know if something like this would be produced elsewhere. Pure joy to watch. :D

Last year, a giraffe was killed in Copenhagen Zoo due to it being of no good use any longer, and its genes being carried around well among the other giraffes. So, they killed it. Sure, it's sad, but this insect at Fox News, Jeanine Pirro, takes the madness to a whole new level.

Good moment at 2:30 - "The truth? These kids watching [the slaughter of the animal] are gonna suffer trauma and flashbacks for the rest of their lives"

Oh yes, yes. I'm sure they will.

Only in America, people. :D
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7/30/2015 9:07:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2015 7:51:29 PM, Mirza wrote:
When it comes to exceptionally good entertainment, you, my American fellows, are certainly among the top producers. I thank you very much for that. Today I'll just share a video I got reminded of, and thought you would like it too. I don't know if something like this would be produced elsewhere. Pure joy to watch. :D

Last year, a giraffe was killed in Copenhagen Zoo due to it being of no good use any longer, and its genes being carried around well among the other giraffes. So, they killed it. Sure, it's sad, but this insect at Fox News, Jeanine Pirro, takes the madness to a whole new level.

Good moment at 2:30 - "The truth? These kids watching [the slaughter of the animal] are gonna suffer trauma and flashbacks for the rest of their lives"

Oh yes, yes. I'm sure they will.

Only in America, people. :D

As a rules, you just can't take FOX news seriously, ever. But even for their standards this is usual, FOX is mostly a conservative channel, and most conservatives don't care about animals at all. lol
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7/30/2015 9:14:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2015 9:07:31 PM, TheJuniorVarsityNovice wrote:
As a rules, you just can't take FOX news seriously, ever.
Indeed, but can you believe how many Americans take them seriously? Ha ha. It's tragicomic.
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7/30/2015 9:28:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2015 9:14:24 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/30/2015 9:07:31 PM, TheJuniorVarsityNovice wrote:
As a rules, you just can't take FOX news seriously, ever.
Indeed, but can you believe how many Americans take them seriously? Ha ha. It's tragicomic.

you don't seem to like america very much
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7/30/2015 10:01:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2015 9:28:53 PM, TheJuniorVarsityNovice wrote:
At 7/30/2015 9:14:24 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/30/2015 9:07:31 PM, TheJuniorVarsityNovice wrote:
As a rules, you just can't take FOX news seriously, ever.
Indeed, but can you believe how many Americans take them seriously? Ha ha. It's tragicomic.

you don't seem to like america very much

Yeah, he's a damn Pinko that hates America. AKA Michael Moore.
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7/30/2015 11:02:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/30/2015 7:51:29 PM, Mirza wrote:
When it comes to exceptionally good entertainment, you, my American fellows, are certainly among the top producers. I thank you very much for that. Today I'll just share a video I got reminded of, and thought you would like it too. I don't know if something like this would be produced elsewhere. Pure joy to watch. :D

Last year, a giraffe was killed in Copenhagen Zoo due to it being of no good use any longer, and its genes being carried around well among the other giraffes. So, they killed it. Sure, it's sad, but this insect at Fox News, Jeanine Pirro, takes the madness to a whole new level.

Good moment at 2:30 - "The truth? These kids watching [the slaughter of the animal] are gonna suffer trauma and flashbacks for the rest of their lives"

Oh yes, yes. I'm sure they will.

Only in America, people. :D

Is this that story about the giraffes they fed to the lions? If so. so what. BFD that's what they eat.
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7/31/2015 8:50:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 3:37:54 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
I'm convinced Mirza is either this stupid, or just a troll.
Hmm... Must be the former. :( You don't have to say it out loud though.
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7/31/2015 3:09:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 8:50:45 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/31/2015 3:37:54 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
I'm convinced Mirza is either this stupid, or just a troll.
Hmm... Must be the former. :( You don't have to say it out loud though.

This is what I'm talking about, Mirza.

By the way, I don't watch TV, and I know many people who don't. So not everyone watches TV in America. Also, Fox News is only one news station. There are many others.
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7/31/2015 3:35:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 3:09:32 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
Also, Fox News is only one news station. There are many others.
You don't think it says something when millions of people share its views and ideology? :(
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7/31/2015 3:36:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 3:35:34 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/31/2015 3:09:32 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
Also, Fox News is only one news station. There are many others.
You don't think it says something when millions of people share its views and ideology? :(

We may share its ideology, but that does not mean it accurately represents our ideology.
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7/31/2015 3:40:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 3:36:57 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
We may share its ideology, but that does not mean it accurately represents our ideology.
Most of their views are shared by a large amount of Americans. There's a reason why they're popular.
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7/31/2015 3:43:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 3:40:31 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/31/2015 3:36:57 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
We may share its ideology, but that does not mean it accurately represents our ideology.
Most of their views are shared by a large amount of Americans. There's a reason why they're popular.

Define which views you are talking about.
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7/31/2015 3:55:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 3:43:42 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
Define which views you are talking about.
Conservatism, support of American military affairs, apologia of America's past, defense of America's vile national interests, denial of global warming, to name a few. :( In addition, it's not only their views, but the way they present them through manipulation.
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7/31/2015 4:03:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 3:55:30 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/31/2015 3:43:42 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
Define which views you are talking about.
Conservatism, support of American military affairs, apologia of America's past, defense of America's vile national interests, denial of global warming, to name a few. :( In addition, it's not only their views, but the way they present them through manipulation.

All right, I share those views in many areas. But I doubt Fox News is a correct representation.
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7/31/2015 4:25:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:03:32 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
All right, I share those views in many areas. But I doubt Fox News is a correct representation.
*Too many of your countrymen beg to differ*.
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7/31/2015 4:28:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:25:37 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/31/2015 4:03:32 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
All right, I share those views in many areas. But I doubt Fox News is a correct representation.
*Too many of your countrymen beg to differ*.

Would you like to back up that assertion?
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7/31/2015 4:29:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:25:37 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/31/2015 4:03:32 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
All right, I share those views in many areas. But I doubt Fox News is a correct representation.
*Too many of your countrymen beg to differ*.

Out of curiosity, is the issue in the number of countrymen, or the percentage?
I have a hard time believing that other countries don't have a healthy percent of dissenting opinions of yours.
My work here is, finally, done.
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7/31/2015 4:31:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:28:45 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
Would you like to back up that assertion?
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com...

"41% of voters trust it to 46% who do not."

"We find once again this year that Democrats trust everything except Fox, and Republicans don't trust anything other than Fox."

There was a decline until 2013, but the support is still huge.
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7/31/2015 4:33:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:29:26 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Out of curiosity, is the issue in the number of countrymen, or the percentage?
I have a hard time believing that other countries don't have a healthy percent of dissenting opinions of yours.
Percentage. The number also matters, because being populous and powerful gives you an enormous potential to do harm, so the percentage is more important in your country than say, the same percentage of same kind of people in Iceland.
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7/31/2015 4:38:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:31:50 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/31/2015 4:28:45 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
Would you like to back up that assertion?
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com...

"41% of voters trust it to 46% who do not."

"We find once again this year that Democrats trust everything except Fox, and Republicans don't trust anything other than Fox."

There was a decline until 2013, but the support is still huge.

Lol, do you realize how small a fraction 800 people is compared to how many there is in the US? Also, that was two years ago. What was last years?
How do you know the questions weren't skewed, and that the survey pool is random? How do you know the people who conducted it are trustworthy?
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7/31/2015 4:45:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:38:02 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
Lol, do you realize how small a fraction 800 people is compared to how many there is in the US? Also, that was two years ago. What was last years?
How do you know the questions weren't skewed, and that the survey pool is random? How do you know the people who conducted it are trustworthy?
I'm worried you're trying to toy around with me. :( This is a truism; all you need to do is Google for yourself. I'm not even going to bother an more to prove to you how popular Fox News is. :)
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7/31/2015 4:45:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:31:50 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/31/2015 4:28:45 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
Would you like to back up that assertion?
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com...

"41% of voters trust it to 46% who do not."

"We find once again this year that Democrats trust everything except Fox, and Republicans don't trust anything other than Fox."

There was a decline until 2013, but the support is still huge.

The total survey pool is only .000258% of the US population. The pool is not big enough.
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7/31/2015 4:49:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:45:50 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
The total survey pool is only .000258% of the US population. The pool is not big enough.
... Do you know how surveys are conducted? You don't need a large sample. America has about 320m people. If the margin of error is about 5%, you need 600-700 people for somewhat reliable results in a poll.
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7/31/2015 4:50:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:45:43 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/31/2015 4:38:02 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
Lol, do you realize how small a fraction 800 people is compared to how many there is in the US? Also, that was two years ago. What was last years?
How do you know the questions weren't skewed, and that the survey pool is random? How do you know the people who conducted it are trustworthy?
I'm worried you're trying to toy around with me. :( This is a truism; all you need to do is Google for yourself. I'm not even going to bother an more to prove to you how popular Fox News is. :)

I'm not toying with you, I'm evaluating your evidence or lack there of. If you can't prove your points, they do not stand. I'm calling you to defend your position like the good old days. I'm a team policy debater, and I know that statistics can be skewed and used to inaccurately portray reality. In addition, the very poll you cited states that Fox is increasing in impopularity as well. So according to your own evidence, the problem is decreasing on its own.
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7/31/2015 4:55:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:49:38 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/31/2015 4:45:50 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
The total survey pool is only .000258% of the US population. The pool is not big enough.
... Do you know how surveys are conducted? You don't need a large sample. America has about 320m people. If the margin of error is about 5%, you need 600-700 people for somewhat reliable results in a poll.

But you don't know how they were picked, etc. The issue is you said many of my countrymen disagree with me, but that isn't many at all.
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7/31/2015 4:57:42 PM
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At 7/31/2015 4:31:50 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/31/2015 4:28:45 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
Would you like to back up that assertion?
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com...

"41% of voters trust it to 46% who do not."

"We find once again this year that Democrats trust everything except Fox, and Republicans don't trust anything other than Fox."

There was a decline until 2013, but the support is still huge.

I take issue with this survey's methodology. It appears a "republican" is one who voted for Mitt Romney, while a "democrat" voted for Barack Obama. Is that really a good label for someone to make this determination? (but, then again, with the cheap shot by the writer, it seems they are biased)

And, in case you are unaware Mirza, and as the study does show, most people don't trust the news, and they appear to be more inclined to trust those sources that slant their way, which is human nature. Self-serving bias is very real. A lot of the media is, in fact, skewed to the left and/or misrepresents so much it should not be trusted. I hate the local news. I once watched the news for a story that was teased about a sexual prowler on the loose, and they told me to go to the website for further details, which is fine, except the detail I was looking for was what the guy looked like.
Further, I have heard that what appears on Fox News Network is biased, but the articles on foxnews.com are much less so. I don't know the truth of that statement, but I'd assume an actual article is more reliable than some blowhard giving his opinion in an effort for ratings.
As I have said, I don't know anyone with half a brain that thinks Fox is not biased. But, what I have found funny is that people who go around bashing Fox as being biased trust comedians making news like the Daily Show, which has misrepresented a great many of things.

I have heard BBC is a good news source, but I have no idea what level of trust they have. I do wish the news, or any so-called news reporter, could be trusted, but it seems people care more about ratings or pushing an agenda than informing the populace.
My work here is, finally, done.
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7/31/2015 5:05:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:50:15 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
I'm not toying with you, I'm evaluating your evidence or lack there of. If you can't prove your points, they do not stand. I'm calling you to defend your position like the good old days. I'm a team policy debater, and I know that statistics can be skewed and used to inaccurately portray reality.
As I said, it's a truism. Fox News is highly popular, and the most trusted network. This is from 2015: http://www.quinnipiac.edu...

"In the comparison chart, FOX News is definitely the Republican choice as 58 percent of GOP voters say they trust FOX the most, while 13 percent turn to CNN, with 7 percent each for NBC and CBS, 5 percent for ABC and 2 percent for MSNBC."

Better sampling size, too.

In addition, the very poll you cited states that Fox is increasing in impopularity as well. So according to your own evidence, the problem is decreasing on its own.
I said that already. It's good news, but not good enough. :)
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7/31/2015 5:08:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:57:42 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
I take issue with this survey's methodology. It appears a "republican" is one who voted for Mitt Romney, while a "democrat" voted for Barack Obama. Is that really a good label for someone to make this determination? (but, then again, with the cheap shot by the writer, it seems they are biased)

And, in case you are unaware Mirza, and as the study does show, most people don't trust the news, and they appear to be more inclined to trust those sources that slant their way, which is human nature. Self-serving bias is very real. A lot of the media is, in fact, skewed to the left and/or misrepresents so much it should not be trusted. I hate the local news. I once watched the news for a story that was teased about a sexual prowler on the loose, and they told me to go to the website for further details, which is fine, except the detail I was looking for was what the guy looked like.
Further, I have heard that what appears on Fox News Network is biased, but the articles on foxnews.com are much less so. I don't know the truth of that statement, but I'd assume an actual article is more reliable than some blowhard giving his opinion in an effort for ratings.
As I have said, I don't know anyone with half a brain that thinks Fox is not biased. But, what I have found funny is that people who go around bashing Fox as being biased trust comedians making news like the Daily Show, which has misrepresented a great many of things.

I have heard BBC is a good news source, but I have no idea what level of trust they have. I do wish the news, or any so-called news reporter, could be trusted, but it seems people care more about ratings or pushing an agenda than informing the populace.
What defines Fox News isn't the objective reporting they obviously have at times, but the key pundits and the very ideology behind the channel. A viewer will most likely be influenced more by the continual reporting of O'Reilly, Hannity, et al, than a random story reported by Fox at daytime.
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7/31/2015 5:13:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 5:05:25 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 7/31/2015 4:50:15 PM, mishapqueen wrote:
I'm not toying with you, I'm evaluating your evidence or lack there of. If you can't prove your points, they do not stand. I'm calling you to defend your position like the good old days. I'm a team policy debater, and I know that statistics can be skewed and used to inaccurately portray reality.
As I said, it's a truism. Fox News is highly popular, and the most trusted network. This is from 2015: http://www.quinnipiac.edu...

"In the comparison chart, FOX News is definitely the Republican choice as 58 percent of GOP voters say they trust FOX the most, while 13 percent turn to CNN, with 7 percent each for NBC and CBS, 5 percent for ABC and 2 percent for MSNBC."

Better sampling size, too.

Yes, that is much better, thank you. However, trust does not necessarily indicate agreement or that it accurately represents these people.

And are they automatically wrong because you think they are? Who died and made you dictator?

In addition, the very poll you cited states that Fox is increasing in impopularity as well. So according to your own evidence, the problem is decreasing on its own.
I said that already. It's good news, but not good enough. :)
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