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8/28/2010 10:57:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Recently I have taken the political compass test and I have come to believe its question and measures are flawed. This is the result it yielded for me http://www.politicalcompass.org...

I believe that private corporations should act in their own interest and that government should act in the interest of society and when the two interests clash its appropriate for the government to step in. Having said that does my position seem to accurately fit?
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8/28/2010 10:59:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
it's supposedly a libertarian propaganda tool... so I've heard...

however... I can't really tell
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8/28/2010 11:06:48 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/28/2010 10:59:00 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
it's supposedly a libertarian propaganda tool... so I've heard...

however... I can't really tell

Are you thinking of this one? http://www.theadvocates.org... The test PalinFan took seems pretty unbiased.
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: At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
: i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
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8/28/2010 11:09:36 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/28/2010 10:57:31 PM, PalinFan wrote:
Recently I have taken the political compass test and I have come to believe its question and measures are flawed. This is the result it yielded for me http://www.politicalcompass.org...

I believe that private corporations should act in their own interest and that government should act in the interest of society and when the two interests clash its appropriate for the government to step in. Having said that does my position seem to accurately fit?

Your position is pretty moderate from what you've said. The graph seems to accurately fit you.
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: At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
: i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
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8/28/2010 11:16:08 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/28/2010 10:57:31 PM, PalinFan wrote:
Recently I have taken the political compass test and I have come to believe its question and measures are flawed. This is the result it yielded for me http://www.politicalcompass.org...

I believe that private corporations should act in their own interest and that government should act in the interest of society and when the two interests clash its appropriate for the government to step in. Having said that does my position seem to accurately fit?

Yer doin' it wrong http://www.politicalcompass.org...
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8/28/2010 11:18:25 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
The test equates authoritarianism with religion, censorship and conservative moral regard if I remember it right. I had to do it three times to push myself up(I moved right too).
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8/28/2010 11:25:02 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/28/2010 11:06:48 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 8/28/2010 10:59:00 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
it's supposedly a libertarian propaganda tool... so I've heard...

however... I can't really tell

Are you thinking of this one? http://www.theadvocates.org... The test PalinFan took seems pretty unbiased.

I don't think much.
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8/28/2010 11:26:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
http://www.politicalcompass.org...
Should we subsidize education?
http://www.debate.org...

http://mises.org...

http://lewrockwell.com...

http://antiwar.com...

: At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
: i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
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8/28/2010 11:46:03 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/28/2010 11:44:03 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 8/28/2010 11:26:50 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
http://www.politicalcompass.org...

Holy sh*t, really?

No, lol. But I felt that the questions were poorly worded, so I moved it.
Should we subsidize education?
http://www.debate.org...

http://mises.org...

http://lewrockwell.com...

http://antiwar.com...

: At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
: i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
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8/28/2010 11:47:53 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/28/2010 11:46:03 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 8/28/2010 11:44:03 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 8/28/2010 11:26:50 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
http://www.politicalcompass.org...

Holy sh*t, really?

No, lol. But I felt that the questions were poorly worded, so I moved it.

I do remember getting a perfect 10 on economics when I took it for real though.
Should we subsidize education?
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http://mises.org...

http://lewrockwell.com...

http://antiwar.com...

: At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
: i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
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8/28/2010 11:48:53 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/28/2010 11:44:03 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 8/28/2010 11:26:50 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
http://www.politicalcompass.org...

Holy sh*t, really?

I don't believe it's possible to get that score... even if it is possible, you'd have to choose "strongly agree" or "strongly disagree" for everything, and a lot of the questions aren't necessarily all political... furthermore, you'd have to get all the questions exactly right to get an exact corner... that said, it should be extremely obvious that LF is joking... this forum seriously doesn't seem to understand sarcasm.
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8/28/2010 11:50:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/28/2010 11:46:03 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 8/28/2010 11:44:03 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 8/28/2010 11:26:50 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
http://www.politicalcompass.org...

Holy sh*t, really?

No, lol. But I felt that the questions were poorly worded, so I moved it.

True, the questions were poorly worded. If you answer the moral questions a certain way, it'll give you an authoritarian score, even if you think government should stay out of personal matters entirely.
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8/28/2010 11:52:30 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/28/2010 11:48:53 PM, PoeJoe wrote:

I don't believe it's possible to get that score... even if it is possible, you'd have to choose "strongly agree" or "strongly disagree" for everything, and a lot of the questions aren't necessarily all political... furthermore, you'd have to get all the questions exactly right to get an exact corner... that said, it should be extremely obvious that LF is joking... this forum seriously doesn't seem to understand sarcasm.

Rezzealeux and Reasoning came pretty close to 100% libertarian. Either way, it's hyperbole, not sarcasm.
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8/28/2010 11:59:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/28/2010 11:58:28 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 8/28/2010 11:55:59 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I'd say it's flawed. It places me further left than I think I am. http://www.politicalcompass.org...

Fix'd.

Nope.
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8/29/2010 12:03:50 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/28/2010 11:52:30 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 8/28/2010 11:48:53 PM, PoeJoe wrote:

I don't believe it's possible to get that score... even if it is possible, you'd have to choose "strongly agree" or "strongly disagree" for everything, and a lot of the questions aren't necessarily all political... furthermore, you'd have to get all the questions exactly right to get an exact corner... that said, it should be extremely obvious that LF is joking... this forum seriously doesn't seem to understand sarcasm.

Rezzealeux and Reasoning came pretty close to 100% libertarian. Either way, it's hyperbole, not sarcasm.

Hyperbole and sarcasm are not mutually exclusive, dude.
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8/29/2010 11:12:59 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/28/2010 11:18:25 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
The test equates authoritarianism with religion, censorship and conservative moral regard if I remember it right. I had to do it three times to push myself up(I moved right too).

Yes, I am an atheist and have mixed morals and it places me aroun -2 to +1 on the authoritarian scale when I should be at least 5.

The whole test is highly flawed, especially considering I see frequent results in the lower quadrants, yet the parties are rarely there. Unfortunately, its one of the best compasses out there. Ive tried to create my own, but it is difficult to decide what is what. Ideally there should be several scales: economics, morals, religion, authoriatarianism/democracy, security, etc...
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8/29/2010 11:18:48 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/29/2010 11:12:59 AM, juvanya wrote:
At 8/28/2010 11:18:25 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
The test equates authoritarianism with religion, censorship and conservative moral regard if I remember it right. I had to do it three times to push myself up(I moved right too).

Yes, I am an atheist and have mixed morals and it places me aroun -2 to +1 on the authoritarian scale when I should be at least 5.

The whole test is highly flawed, especially considering I see frequent results in the lower quadrants, yet the parties are rarely there. Unfortunately, its one of the best compasses out there. Ive tried to create my own, but it is difficult to decide what is what. Ideally there should be several scales: economics, morals, religion, authoriatarianism/democracy, security, etc...

Sort of like this scale? http://www.debate.org...
Should we subsidize education?
http://www.debate.org...

http://mises.org...

http://lewrockwell.com...

http://antiwar.com...

: At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
: i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
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8/29/2010 11:49:54 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/28/2010 11:18:25 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
The test equates authoritarianism with religion, censorship and conservative moral regard if I remember it right. I had to do it three times to push myself up(I moved right too).

It does not explicitly equate the two, to my knowledge. The problem is that a lot of positions arrived at through religion and social conservatism are authoritarian in nature (e.g. opposition to same sex rights). And of course, censorship is authoritarian....
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8/29/2010 1:01:03 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/29/2010 11:18:48 AM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 8/29/2010 11:12:59 AM, juvanya wrote:
At 8/28/2010 11:18:25 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
The test equates authoritarianism with religion, censorship and conservative moral regard if I remember it right. I had to do it three times to push myself up(I moved right too).

Yes, I am an atheist and have mixed morals and it places me aroun -2 to +1 on the authoritarian scale when I should be at least 5.

The whole test is highly flawed, especially considering I see frequent results in the lower quadrants, yet the parties are rarely there. Unfortunately, its one of the best compasses out there. Ive tried to create my own, but it is difficult to decide what is what. Ideally there should be several scales: economics, morals, religion, authoriatarianism/democracy, security, etc...

Sort of like this scale? http://www.debate.org...

Where can I take that test? lol
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8/29/2010 1:03:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/29/2010 1:01:03 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 8/29/2010 11:18:48 AM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 8/29/2010 11:12:59 AM, juvanya wrote:
At 8/28/2010 11:18:25 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
The test equates authoritarianism with religion, censorship and conservative moral regard if I remember it right. I had to do it three times to push myself up(I moved right too).

Yes, I am an atheist and have mixed morals and it places me aroun -2 to +1 on the authoritarian scale when I should be at least 5.

The whole test is highly flawed, especially considering I see frequent results in the lower quadrants, yet the parties are rarely there. Unfortunately, its one of the best compasses out there. Ive tried to create my own, but it is difficult to decide what is what. Ideally there should be several scales: economics, morals, religion, authoriatarianism/democracy, security, etc...

Sort of like this scale? http://www.debate.org...

Where can I take that test? lol

I don't think there's an actual test for that. You just have to look at it an decide where you go.
Should we subsidize education?
http://www.debate.org...

http://mises.org...

http://lewrockwell.com...

http://antiwar.com...

: At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
: i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
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8/29/2010 1:05:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/29/2010 1:03:52 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 8/29/2010 1:01:03 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 8/29/2010 11:18:48 AM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 8/29/2010 11:12:59 AM, juvanya wrote:
At 8/28/2010 11:18:25 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
The test equates authoritarianism with religion, censorship and conservative moral regard if I remember it right. I had to do it three times to push myself up(I moved right too).

Yes, I am an atheist and have mixed morals and it places me aroun -2 to +1 on the authoritarian scale when I should be at least 5.

The whole test is highly flawed, especially considering I see frequent results in the lower quadrants, yet the parties are rarely there. Unfortunately, its one of the best compasses out there. Ive tried to create my own, but it is difficult to decide what is what. Ideally there should be several scales: economics, morals, religion, authoriatarianism/democracy, security, etc...

Sort of like this scale? http://www.debate.org...

Where can I take that test? lol

I don't think there's an actual test for that. You just have to look at it an decide where you go.

Ah, damn. Way to disappoint me. :(
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8/29/2010 11:22:11 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/29/2010 1:05:00 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 8/29/2010 1:03:52 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 8/29/2010 1:01:03 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 8/29/2010 11:18:48 AM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 8/29/2010 11:12:59 AM, juvanya wrote:
At 8/28/2010 11:18:25 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
The test equates authoritarianism with religion, censorship and conservative moral regard if I remember it right. I had to do it three times to push myself up(I moved right too).

Yes, I am an atheist and have mixed morals and it places me aroun -2 to +1 on the authoritarian scale when I should be at least 5.

The whole test is highly flawed, especially considering I see frequent results in the lower quadrants, yet the parties are rarely there. Unfortunately, its one of the best compasses out there. Ive tried to create my own, but it is difficult to decide what is what. Ideally there should be several scales: economics, morals, religion, authoriatarianism/democracy, security, etc...

Sort of like this scale? http://www.debate.org...

Where can I take that test? lol

I don't think there's an actual test for that. You just have to look at it an decide where you go.

Ah, damn. Way to disappoint me. :(

Its from NationStates! Its an improvement, but still not quite there.