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tvellalott
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9/13/2010 6:16:11 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I've seen a few of these happen in the past and I'd be very interested in doing one. I made this topic rather than just going ahead and posting a debate on it so I could see who was geniunely interested in finishing all the rounds (I'm looking at you Lwerd!) and discussing the specifics.

Anywho, I was thinking 5 characters, 4 rounds
1st round introduces the characters
2nd round describes their opening attack against their opponents
3rd round describes how the would counter their opponents opening attack
4th round both players analyse the battle explains why they should win.

The only restriction I would put on which characters you can choose is they can't be omnipotent or omniscient, ie. your team cannot include Yahweh or Allah.
Comics, movies, anime, whatever.

Anyone interested?
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9/13/2010 6:17:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Also, to avoid giving the opponent the unfair advantage of choosing characters who can specfically defeat the instigater, we choose a third party person and tell them our choices.
If we choose the same person who any choice, neither of us can use that person.
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9/13/2010 6:20:03 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I'd be interested in one with many more restrictions. It's just too vague without them. For example characters in the debate should be canon specific and they can't be super-beings with nigh limitless power.

For instance, I was wanting to do an X-Men one.
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9/13/2010 6:23:01 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/13/2010 6:20:03 PM, Korashk wrote:
I'd be interested in one with many more restrictions. It's just too vague without them. For example characters in the debate should be canon specific and they can't be super-beings with nigh limitless power.

For instance, I was wanting to do an X-Men one.

I'd be willing to do a Marvel specific one...
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9/13/2010 6:23:58 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I did one of these in the past against the great LM and somehow won by the skin of my teeth. I would be very interested in doing another with power restrictions as Korashk stated. Perhaps the canon restrictions could vary by debate, so that people could use multiple canons in a debate if they wish to do so. Overall, I would definitely be interested in doing one of these.
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9/13/2010 6:28:24 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
You'd also want to restrict the pretty-much-unbeatable ones with pretty much unlimited powers. One of my debates was ruined by near-omnipotent beings.
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9/13/2010 6:29:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/13/2010 6:24:56 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
We could have somebody like Jesus if we wanted couldn't we? :P You only said no Yahweh or Allah.

*facepalm*
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9/13/2010 6:30:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/13/2010 6:28:24 PM, mongeese wrote:
You'd also want to restrict the pretty-much-unbeatable ones with pretty much unlimited powers. One of my debates was ruined by near-omnipotent beings.

I totally agree. This is why I posted this, so we could nut out the specifics. If enough people are interested, I'd be happy to organise a tournement or something.
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9/13/2010 6:31:07 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/13/2010 6:28:24 PM, mongeese wrote:
You'd also want to restrict the pretty-much-unbeatable ones with pretty much unlimited powers. One of my debates was ruined by near-omnipotent beings.

I suppose no Jesus then, at least not the Biblical Jesus.
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9/13/2010 6:33:39 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/13/2010 6:31:07 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 9/13/2010 6:28:24 PM, mongeese wrote:
You'd also want to restrict the pretty-much-unbeatable ones with pretty much unlimited powers. One of my debates was ruined by near-omnipotent beings.

I suppose no Jesus then, at least not the Biblical Jesus.

I don't want this to get railroaded, but I did Jesus have any powers that would be remotely useful against say, Wolverine?
I think he'd get his hippy-arse sliced up in a heartbeat.
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9/13/2010 6:34:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/13/2010 6:24:56 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
We could have somebody like Jesus if we wanted couldn't we? :P You only said no Yahweh or Allah.

DUHHHH INSERT JESUS IS YAHWEH AND VICE VERSA DUHHH :p

Lrn your trinity srsly. I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together...
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9/13/2010 6:36:12 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/13/2010 6:34:47 PM, theLwerd wrote:
At 9/13/2010 6:24:56 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
We could have somebody like Jesus if we wanted couldn't we? :P You only said no Yahweh or Allah.

DUHHHH INSERT JESUS IS YAHWEH AND VICE VERSA DUHHH :p

Lrn your trinity srsly. I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together...

Did you just quote I am the Walrus?!?!
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9/13/2010 8:20:23 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/13/2010 6:16:11 PM, tvellalott wrote:
I've seen a few of these happen in the past and I'd be very interested in doing one. I made this topic rather than just going ahead and posting a debate on it so I could see who was geniunely interested in finishing all the rounds (I'm looking at you Lwerd!) and discussing the specifics.

Anywho, I was thinking 5 characters, 4 rounds
1st round introduces the characters
2nd round describes their opening attack against their opponents
3rd round describes how the would counter their opponents opening attack
4th round both players analyse the battle explains why they should win.

The only restriction I would put on which characters you can choose is they can't be omnipotent or omniscient, ie. your team cannot include Yahweh or Allah.
Comics, movies, anime, whatever.

Anyone interested?

I'm interested, but the only ones that I've seen open were anime themed; I had no idea who the characters were. I'll take you on, if you want.
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9/13/2010 8:22:44 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/13/2010 6:36:12 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 9/13/2010 6:34:47 PM, theLwerd wrote:
At 9/13/2010 6:24:56 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
We could have somebody like Jesus if we wanted couldn't we? :P You only said no Yahweh or Allah.

DUHHHH INSERT JESUS IS YAHWEH AND VICE VERSA DUHHH :p

Lrn your trinity srsly. I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together...

Did you just quote I am the Walrus?!?!
*adds 5 points to theLwerd*

Hahaha.
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9/14/2010 12:54:35 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/13/2010 8:20:23 PM, Chrysippus wrote:
I'm interested, but the only ones that I've seen open were anime themed; I had no idea who the characters were. I'll take you on, if you want.

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9/14/2010 12:57:55 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
The best way to limit over powering is to define street level characters and either hold the debates comprised entirely of that or at least of a majority of the team make up, and then set upper limits for banned level characters for the remaining members of a team.
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9/14/2010 5:13:27 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/14/2010 12:54:35 AM, Puck wrote:
At 9/13/2010 8:20:23 PM, Chrysippus wrote:
I'm interested, but the only ones that I've seen open were anime themed; I had no idea who the characters were. I'll take you on, if you want.

http://www.debate.org...

That's exactly what we should do.

Who is interested in during the TVL Classic?
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9/14/2010 5:28:56 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/14/2010 12:54:35 AM, Puck wrote:
At 9/13/2010 8:20:23 PM, Chrysippus wrote:
I'm interested, but the only ones that I've seen open were anime themed; I had no idea who the characters were. I'll take you on, if you want.

http://www.debate.org...

Thank you.
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9/14/2010 12:12:39 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/14/2010 5:13:27 AM, tvellalott wrote:
At 9/14/2010 12:54:35 AM, Puck wrote:
At 9/13/2010 8:20:23 PM, Chrysippus wrote:
I'm interested, but the only ones that I've seen open were anime themed; I had no idea who the characters were. I'll take you on, if you want.

http://www.debate.org...

That's exactly what we should do.

Who is interested in during the TVL Classic?

what? ...but i'll join, and try and finish my debates :)
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9/14/2010 4:10:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Would you still be interested if I restricted it to just Marvel characters? (That's a pretty broad range of characters)
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9/14/2010 4:22:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
o.O;
Well Korashk wants to do a Marvel one.
My knowledge of Marvel is pretty good, but I'm more of a DC kind of guy.
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9/14/2010 8:03:02 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/14/2010 6:43:02 PM, Atheism wrote:
This is obvious, but to rule out anyone from trying to do this:
NO SUPERMAN.

^ This. No god-king f***tards in our UTW.
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9/14/2010 11:33:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I could easily argue that my version of Batman has the Kryptonite ring that Superman himself gave Batman as seen in the Hush series.
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9/14/2010 11:35:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/14/2010 6:43:02 PM, Atheism wrote:
This is obvious, but to rule out anyone from trying to do this:
NO SUPERMAN.

He's so over-powered. haha.