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talmid
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10/28/2015 4:37:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
https://www.youtube.com...
If Internet Anonymity became illegal, it would stop:
- trolling
- cyberbullying
- slander
- social media wars
- internet homicide
- illegal drug dealing
- Organ trade
- many other illegal internet activities

What are your thoughts?
airmax1227
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10/28/2015 5:09:57 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/28/2015 4:37:12 AM, talmid wrote:

Assuming the government did this perfectly, and it did stop these things, I'm not sure I really see it being worthwhile from a cost-benefit perspective. Certainly we want to reduce negative parts of our society, but this is also largely an extension of the liberty versus security discussion.

As for these things listed here, I think each individually has to be looked at for its validity as being considered a valuable issue worth losing "internet liberty" to fight against. But to be clear, certainly something should be done to mitigate the worst aspects of the internet, I just think this plan is going a bit far - giving the government absolute control of the internet should give us all pause for concern (if this is what is being implied, I don't want to strawman your position).

- social media wars

Is "social media wars" an actual thing? I honestly don't know what this is referring to.
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10/28/2015 5:23:35 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/28/2015 5:09:57 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
- social media wars

Is "social media wars" an actual thing? I honestly don't know what this is referring to.

Most definitely.

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10/28/2015 5:35:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/28/2015 5:23:35 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 10/28/2015 5:09:57 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
- social media wars

Is "social media wars" an actual thing? I honestly don't know what this is referring to.

Most definitely.

http://www.firstpost.com...

I was picturing something like Facebook tanks holding off platoons of My Space marines in a battle for regional supremacy...

But fair enough... someone apparently needs to stop this madness.

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10/28/2015 5:39:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/28/2015 5:23:35 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 10/28/2015 5:09:57 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
- social media wars

Is "social media wars" an actual thing? I honestly don't know what this is referring to.

Most definitely.

http://www.firstpost.com...

How could it not be a thing? Social Media wars, AKA "cyberbullying"
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10/28/2015 6:38:28 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/28/2015 5:09:57 AM, airmax1227 wrote:

- social media wars

Is "social media wars" an actual thing? I honestly don't know what this is referring to.

Yes, that is gonna be episode 11 of Star Wars, the social media wars!
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10/28/2015 6:51:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Hm, there is sufficient *evidence* to show that it would not stop *any* of these things--in addition I can base my opinion on personal experience.

For example, I use my picture(s) on all social websites--and basically just any website that gives you the option of a picture, and NOT once has it deterred me from those things. Especially cyberbullying, Internet homicide (I'm actually responsible for 40 Internet homicide-related deaths.) Illegal drug dealing online has also been a regular habit, just this week I've sold 50 bags of cocaine over Facebook, Instagram and even Debate.Org! In addition there's the heroin and marijuana I've been selling to people.

Now to the 'many other illegal activities', I'm also a prostitute that has arranges met-ups online on almost ANY website. Even YouTube. It's amazing how many men out there are willing to pay cash for it. Recently I've began making my own porn movies and selling them to all the many horny men online.

If you've got the right kind of attitude and t1t$/pu$$y/, I highly recommend this career. Of course it's easy for me because you know...I'm great!
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10/29/2015 6:22:37 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/28/2015 4:37:12 AM, talmid wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...
If Internet Anonymity became illegal, it would stop:
- trolling
- cyberbullying
- slander
- social media wars
- internet homicide
- illegal drug dealing
- Organ trade
- many other illegal internet activities

What are your thoughts?

If it stopped, you would never have the chance to hide yourself on the internet where people might find you. You could comment to me now and I could tell you your IP, full name, your actual address, etc. Things get crazy and being hidden or masked, like using Tor, helps. Half the things you see, like your 'anonymity' here on DDO is really pseudo. Not using your face as an avatar and a different name is, in my eyes, false anonymity.

Plus, you can't make it illegal, because you really can't control the internet.
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10/29/2015 2:34:08 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Anonymity is a necessity for the Internet. People getting tracked 24/7 and having all of their personal information available on a service accessible by a majority of people across the globe just opens up the doors to danger. Despite the upsides it may have (lower risk of cyber bullying) the dangers (tracking and monitoring literally anyone that accesses the web) far outweigh the benefits.
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10/29/2015 2:39:24 PM
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It would be nice to have two internets. One that did not contain anonymity, and one that did. On one you'd have a picture of yourself as an avatar and your name that follows you around, and the other you would not. I think something like this will at some point arise, without government intervention as well
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10/29/2015 3:20:53 PM
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I found out something weird about my boss the other day and I really wanted to discuss it with the team I work with, but we're all communicating online at the moment, so there was no way if saying it without the conversation being on record. So I opened a new fake profile on a professional discussion board and ran it by strangers as a hypothetical to get their opinions but it wasn't as good. It's almost like the internet prevents good communication. I've thought that a few times now. Especially at work. There needs to be a way of talking off the record. A conversation that is guaranteed to be deleted at the end of the day or something and screenshots disabled.
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10/29/2015 7:37:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/28/2015 4:37:12 AM, talmid wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...
If Internet Anonymity became illegal, it would stop:
- trolling

Not seeing the benefit.

- cyberbullying

Bullying has been a problem since the dawn of time. Just because there's a measurable amount of bullying on the internet doesn't mean that stopping that will change much. Maybe it'll keep more people off the internet than spending time with their family anyway.

- slander

Yeah slander is not going to stop. Most people who commit slander anyway put their name in bold letters at the bottom.

- social media wars

Those are fun though.

- internet homicide

Not actually sure what that's supposed to mean. But if shooting your computer screen can kill the person you're corresponding to... Well....

- illegal drug dealing

Pretty sure most illegal drug dealing is done in person. I've never been emailed cocaine.

- Organ trade

That happens over the Internet?

- many other illegal internet activities

Like what?
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10/30/2015 6:43:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/28/2015 4:37:12 AM, talmid wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...
If Internet Anonymity became illegal, it would stop:
- trolling
- cyberbullying
- slander
- social media wars
- internet homicide
- illegal drug dealing
- Organ trade
- many other illegal internet activities

What are your thoughts?

Well.... Without a complete rework of the internet, this would be impossible. Regardless it would harm much more than help.
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10/31/2015 4:05:02 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
If all agressive thoughts were purged then voilence would be stopped yeah but how can we implement that? How do we implement non-anonymity.