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kasmic
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11/3/2015 11:15:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I often find it amusing when people argue over the meaning of words. There seem to be at least two positions to take. (No its not meant to be an either or type of thing, I have just noticed two different approaches to semantics.)

1: Communication Efficiency

Does it matter if a word is used incorrectly if the intended meaning was understood?

2: Correct Communication

You should say what you mean, and be told when using words incorrectly.

What do you guys think?

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11/4/2015 2:58:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/3/2015 11:15:09 PM, kasmic wrote:
I often find it amusing when people argue over the meaning of words. There seem to be at least two positions to take. (No its not meant to be an either or type of thing, I have just noticed two different approaches to semantics.)

1: Communication Efficiency

Does it matter if a word is used incorrectly if the intended meaning was understood?

2: Correct Communication

You should say what you mean, and be told when using words incorrectly.

What do you guys think?

One of my writers published an article addressing this issue. Here is her article if you are interested.

http://www.sensiblesoapbox.com...

Communication efficiency.

Offline I don't see much arguing over the meaning of words, except in fake/for-fun arguments over certain words like ratchet or preppy. But it really is rare that I ever see any. I see it a lot more online. It gets boring to read and in some arguments it seems like the people are talking about different things. There's a video one of my teachers showed to us, and I when I got home I checked out the comment section only to find it full of arguments over what friendzone means.

I used to think it wasn't meaningful to argue semantics, and I still do for the most part, particularly with words, but I've changed a bit now since it's because of the meaning of things that it might not be okay to hang the confederate flag, or that there's any wonder if two people of the same sex should be able to marry.
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11/4/2015 4:04:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/3/2015 11:15:09 PM, kasmic wrote:
I often find it amusing when people argue over the meaning of words. There seem to be at least two positions to take. (No its not meant to be an either or type of thing, I have just noticed two different approaches to semantics.)

1: Communication Efficiency

Does it matter if a word is used incorrectly if the intended meaning was understood?

2: Correct Communication

You should say what you mean, and be told when using words incorrectly.

What do you guys think?

One of my writers published an article addressing this issue. Here is her article if you are interested.

http://www.sensiblesoapbox.com...

I have been embroiled in one of these around "murder" and abortion. Here is my take, sometimes the actual meaning has importance. Just using a word for lack of a better word is excusable, but twisting a word for effect is not.
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11/4/2015 4:46:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/4/2015 4:04:46 PM, TBR wrote:

I have been embroiled in one of these around "murder" and abortion. Here is my take, sometimes the actual meaning has importance. Just using a word for lack of a better word is excusable, but twisting a word for effect is not.

Right! So someone might reasonably say that abortion "kills" the fetus, but to say it is Murder seems to be for shock and effect.
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11/4/2015 4:48:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I used to think it wasn't meaningful to argue semantics, and I still do for the most part, particularly with words, but I've changed a bit now since it's because of the meaning of things that it might not be okay to hang the confederate flag, or that there's any wonder if two people of the same sex should be able to marry.

Right, so marriage semantics are a big issue today. It is interesting how some issues do actually boil down to semantics.
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11/4/2015 8:14:14 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/4/2015 4:46:28 PM, kasmic wrote:
At 11/4/2015 4:04:46 PM, TBR wrote:

I have been embroiled in one of these around "murder" and abortion. Here is my take, sometimes the actual meaning has importance. Just using a word for lack of a better word is excusable, but twisting a word for effect is not.

Right! So someone might reasonably say that abortion "kills" the fetus, but to say it is Murder seems to be for shock and effect.

Exactly.