Asking For Your Vote

At 12/13/2015 9:26:03 AM, bsh1 wrote:
I just wanted to bump this to make clear again why I am running, and why I want to serve the community.

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

At 12/13/2015 9:41:56 AM, johnlubba wrote:

At 12/13/2015 9:41:56 AM, johnlubba wrote:
But my overall vote would have been preferred to be ,

Bsh1/Wylted

At 12/13/2015 9:40:34 AM, fire_wings wrote:

At 12/13/2015 9:26:03 AM, bsh1 wrote:
I just wanted to bump this to make clear again why I am running, and why I want to serve the community.

I tried to vote for you, but I don't make the requirements.

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

At 12/13/2015 6:35:27 PM, EverlastingMoment wrote:

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

Weren't you the favorite to win? Could have sworn you had this in the bag anyway. >.>

At 12/13/2015 6:34:18 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
I thought that this election was going to be an easy win for you. If I knew it was going to be THIS contentious I would have voted for you.

At 12/13/2015 3:52:44 PM, Balacafa wrote:

At 12/13/2015 9:41:56 AM, johnlubba wrote:

Wylted is almost certainly going to improve communication with Juggle, by a lot!

At 12/13/2015 11:01:27 PM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/13/2015 6:35:27 PM, EverlastingMoment wrote:

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

Weren't you the favorite to win? Could have sworn you had this in the bag anyway. >.>

I think I was, but clearly there is a large segment of the site that was unsatisfied with my performance as President.

At 12/13/2015 11:31:49 PM, ShabShoral wrote:

At 12/13/2015 3:52:44 PM, Balacafa wrote:

At 12/13/2015 9:41:56 AM, johnlubba wrote:

Wylted is almost certainly going to improve communication with Juggle, by a lot!

How many presidencies will it take before people realize that, no, Juggle will never take an interest in the site's issues just because the President asks them to.

At 12/14/2015 12:23:26 AM, Balacafa wrote:

At 12/13/2015 11:31:49 PM, ShabShoral wrote:

At 12/13/2015 3:52:44 PM, Balacafa wrote:

At 12/13/2015 9:41:56 AM, johnlubba wrote:

Wylted is almost certainly going to improve communication with Juggle, by a lot!

How many presidencies will it take before people realize that, no, Juggle will never take an interest in the site's issues just because the President asks them to.

He is planning to go to their headquarters, in person, with TUF, Larz and immomen and complain. I doubt that this won't attract their attention.

At 12/14/2015 12:19:52 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/13/2015 11:01:27 PM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/13/2015 6:35:27 PM, EverlastingMoment wrote:

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

Weren't you the favorite to win? Could have sworn you had this in the bag anyway. >.>

I think I was, but clearly there is a large segment of the site that was unsatisfied with my performance as President.

That's not it, man. Like I said, you did as much as is humanly possible with your limited "soft power" as president.
What we're unsatisfied with is how people make a huge deal about the presidency, when it's actually not one.

At 12/14/2015 12:54:07 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:19:52 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/13/2015 11:01:27 PM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/13/2015 6:35:27 PM, EverlastingMoment wrote:

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

Weren't you the favorite to win? Could have sworn you had this in the bag anyway. >.>

I think I was, but clearly there is a large segment of the site that was unsatisfied with my performance as President.

That's not it, man. Like I said, you did as much as is humanly possible with your limited "soft power" as president.
What we're unsatisfied with is how people make a huge deal about the presidency, when it's actually not one.

And this somehow means that we should've have someone who puts in a lot off effort in the job? No, Romanii, I don't buy that.

At 12/14/2015 1:07:09 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:54:07 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:19:52 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/13/2015 11:01:27 PM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/13/2015 6:35:27 PM, EverlastingMoment wrote:

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

Weren't you the favorite to win? Could have sworn you had this in the bag anyway. >.>

I think I was, but clearly there is a large segment of the site that was unsatisfied with my performance as President.

That's not it, man. Like I said, you did as much as is humanly possible with your limited "soft power" as president.
What we're unsatisfied with is how people make a huge deal about the presidency, when it's actually not one.

And this somehow means that we should've have someone who puts in a lot off effort in the job? No, Romanii, I don't buy that.

That's not the point. Getting Wylted elected sorta "illustrates", if you will, our views on the presidency. If you want a better explanation of why people are voting against you, look to Thett and Subutai's posts -- it really doesn't have much to do with your performance.

At 12/14/2015 1:09:20 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:07:09 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:54:07 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:19:52 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/13/2015 11:01:27 PM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/13/2015 6:35:27 PM, EverlastingMoment wrote:

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

Weren't you the favorite to win? Could have sworn you had this in the bag anyway. >.>

I think I was, but clearly there is a large segment of the site that was unsatisfied with my performance as President.

That's not it, man. Like I said, you did as much as is humanly possible with your limited "soft power" as president.
What we're unsatisfied with is how people make a huge deal about the presidency, when it's actually not one.

And this somehow means that we should've have someone who puts in a lot off effort in the job? No, Romanii, I don't buy that.

That's not the point. Getting Wylted elected sorta "illustrates", if you will, our views on the presidency. If you want a better explanation of why people are voting against you, look to Thett and Subutai's posts -- it really doesn't have much to do with your performance.

Actually, Romanii, it does. To say that the Presidency is pointless is to say it has no point. This demeans all of the things I did under the auspices of the Presidency, by saying they gave no point to the office. From voting reforms to forum revival to whatever; none of it made the Presidency an institution worth keeping.

At 12/14/2015 1:09:20 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:07:09 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:54:07 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:19:52 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/13/2015 11:01:27 PM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/13/2015 6:35:27 PM, EverlastingMoment wrote:

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

Weren't you the favorite to win? Could have sworn you had this in the bag anyway. >.>

I think I was, but clearly there is a large segment of the site that was unsatisfied with my performance as President.

That's not it, man. Like I said, you did as much as is humanly possible with your limited "soft power" as president.
What we're unsatisfied with is how people make a huge deal about the presidency, when it's actually not one.

And this somehow means that we should've have someone who puts in a lot off effort in the job? No, Romanii, I don't buy that.

That's not the point. Getting Wylted elected sorta "illustrates", if you will, our views on the presidency. If you want a better explanation of why people are voting against you, look to Thett and Subutai's posts -- it really doesn't have much to do with your performance.

Actually, Romanii, it does. To say that the Presidency is pointless is to say it has no point. This demeans all of the things I did under the auspices of the Presidency, by saying they gave no point to the office. From voting reforms to forum revival to whatever; none of it made the Presidency an institution worth keeping.

At 12/14/2015 1:35:41 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:09:20 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:07:09 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:54:07 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:19:52 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/13/2015 11:01:27 PM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/13/2015 6:35:27 PM, EverlastingMoment wrote:

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

Weren't you the favorite to win? Could have sworn you had this in the bag anyway. >.>

I think I was, but clearly there is a large segment of the site that was unsatisfied with my performance as President.

That's not it, man. Like I said, you did as much as is humanly possible with your limited "soft power" as president.
What we're unsatisfied with is how people make a huge deal about the presidency, when it's actually not one.

And this somehow means that we should've have someone who puts in a lot off effort in the job? No, Romanii, I don't buy that.

That's not the point. Getting Wylted elected sorta "illustrates", if you will, our views on the presidency. If you want a better explanation of why people are voting against you, look to Thett and Subutai's posts -- it really doesn't have much to do with your performance.

Actually, Romanii, it does. To say that the Presidency is pointless is to say it has no point. This demeans all of the things I did under the auspices of the Presidency, by saying they gave no point to the office. From voting reforms to forum revival to whatever; none of it made the Presidency an institution worth keeping.

The presidency isn't pointless. It's just very overblown.
Sure, there might be a small opportunity cost from having Wylted elected, but we think that's outweighed by the other stuff.

At 12/14/2015 1:36:36 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:09:20 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:07:09 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:54:07 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:19:52 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/13/2015 11:01:27 PM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/13/2015 6:35:27 PM, EverlastingMoment wrote:

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

Weren't you the favorite to win? Could have sworn you had this in the bag anyway. >.>

I think I was, but clearly there is a large segment of the site that was unsatisfied with my performance as President.

That's not it, man. Like I said, you did as much as is humanly possible with your limited "soft power" as president.
What we're unsatisfied with is how people make a huge deal about the presidency, when it's actually not one.

And this somehow means that we should've have someone who puts in a lot off effort in the job? No, Romanii, I don't buy that.

That's not the point. Getting Wylted elected sorta "illustrates", if you will, our views on the presidency. If you want a better explanation of why people are voting against you, look to Thett and Subutai's posts -- it really doesn't have much to do with your performance.

Actually, Romanii, it does. To say that the Presidency is pointless is to say it has no point. This demeans all of the things I did under the auspices of the Presidency, by saying they gave no point to the office. From voting reforms to forum revival to whatever; none of it made the Presidency an institution worth keeping.

And we also think that you could have done almost all of what you did without being president.

At 12/14/2015 1:46:22 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:35:41 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:09:20 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:07:09 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:54:07 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:19:52 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/13/2015 11:01:27 PM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/13/2015 6:35:27 PM, EverlastingMoment wrote:

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

Weren't you the favorite to win? Could have sworn you had this in the bag anyway. >.>

I think I was, but clearly there is a large segment of the site that was unsatisfied with my performance as President.

That's not it, man. Like I said, you did as much as is humanly possible with your limited "soft power" as president.
What we're unsatisfied with is how people make a huge deal about the presidency, when it's actually not one.

And this somehow means that we should've have someone who puts in a lot off effort in the job? No, Romanii, I don't buy that.

That's not the point. Getting Wylted elected sorta "illustrates", if you will, our views on the presidency. If you want a better explanation of why people are voting against you, look to Thett and Subutai's posts -- it really doesn't have much to do with your performance.

Actually, Romanii, it does. To say that the Presidency is pointless is to say it has no point. This demeans all of the things I did under the auspices of the Presidency, by saying they gave no point to the office. From voting reforms to forum revival to whatever; none of it made the Presidency an institution worth keeping.

The presidency isn't pointless. It's just very overblown.
Sure, there might be a small opportunity cost from having Wylted elected, but we think that's outweighed by the other stuff.

I am glad you think humor outweighs all the stuff I have done and want to do as President. It really puts the How to Debate Guide, the Mentorship Program, the Forum Revival, etc. into perspective.

At 12/14/2015 1:52:31 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:46:22 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:35:41 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:09:20 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:07:09 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:54:07 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 12:19:52 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/13/2015 11:01:27 PM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/13/2015 6:35:27 PM, EverlastingMoment wrote:

At 12/11/2015 4:13:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Since the election is coming up very soon, I just wanted to take a moment to ask you for your vote. I am not going to talk a lot about policy--if you're interested in that, check out my sig for a link to our platform. Instead, I want to say that DDO is a community that means a lot to me, personally. I have many friends I care about here, and it provides a format for an activity I love. I want to give back to the site, and the Presidency--be it through discussions with moderation, through voting reform, through community organization--is a way I can do that. I, as well as Zaradi and now Saph, have and will invest countless hours of effort into making DDO a better place. We care about the site, and we care about our capacity to make a positive impact.

Thank you all for making DDO a great website, and I would greatly appreciate your support in the upcoming election. Thanks!

-Bsh1

Weren't you the favorite to win? Could have sworn you had this in the bag anyway. >.>

I think I was, but clearly there is a large segment of the site that was unsatisfied with my performance as President.

That's not it, man. Like I said, you did as much as is humanly possible with your limited "soft power" as president.
What we're unsatisfied with is how people make a huge deal about the presidency, when it's actually not one.

And this somehow means that we should've have someone who puts in a lot off effort in the job? No, Romanii, I don't buy that.

That's not the point. Getting Wylted elected sorta "illustrates", if you will, our views on the presidency. If you want a better explanation of why people are voting against you, look to Thett and Subutai's posts -- it really doesn't have much to do with your performance.

Actually, Romanii, it does. To say that the Presidency is pointless is to say it has no point. This demeans all of the things I did under the auspices of the Presidency, by saying they gave no point to the office. From voting reforms to forum revival to whatever; none of it made the Presidency an institution worth keeping.

The presidency isn't pointless. It's just very overblown.
Sure, there might be a small opportunity cost from having Wylted elected, but we think that's outweighed by the other stuff.

I am glad you think humor outweighs all the stuff I have done and want to do as President. It really puts the How to Debate Guide, the Mentorship Program, the Forum Revival, etc. into perspective.

I definitely didn't say "the other stuff" = "humor" (although that was a part of it). Neither did thett3 or Subutai.

At 12/14/2015 1:53:11 AM, bsh1 wrote:

Then what is it?

At 12/14/2015 2:05:21 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:53:11 AM, bsh1 wrote:

Then what is it?

Diminishing the value of the presidency.

Anyways, I'm done arguing about this. It's over. You won. Congrats.

At 12/14/2015 2:06:48 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 2:05:21 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:53:11 AM, bsh1 wrote:

Then what is it?

Diminishing the value of the presidency.

So, diminishing the value of the all the stuff I did as President. Gotcha.

So, diminishing the value of the all the stuff I did

as President.

Anyways, I'm done arguing about this. It's over. You won. Congrats.

Oh, the enthusiasm...And, frankly, it doesn't feel as if I won.

At 12/14/2015 2:14:05 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 2:06:48 AM, bsh1 wrote:

At 12/14/2015 2:05:21 AM, Romanii wrote:

At 12/14/2015 1:53:11 AM, bsh1 wrote:

Then what is it?

Diminishing the value of the presidency.

So, diminishing the value of the all the stuff I did as President. Gotcha.

-_-

I'll break that down into two parts and respond separately