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The difference between ad hom and an insult

UtherPenguin
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12/20/2015 11:14:51 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
An ad hominem is not the same as just any other insult. I see this happen a few times before on this site and else, an argument occurs, one guy insults the other, and the next person yells out "ad hominem"

Insults and ad hominems are both personal attacks, but an ad hominem is a personal attack disguised as an argument. An ad hominem takes the logic of an argument, and applies it to an insult.

For example. This would be an ad hominem:

Speaker A: I believe squirells should be illegal.

Speaker B: COming from the guy who likes chipmunks. You are wrong ebcause you are a chipmunk.

This is not an ad hominem:

Speaker A: All guns are secretly gay.

Speaker B
: You're Stupid.

Speaker A: Is dat a fallacy I hear? #GetRekt

An ad hominem is an argument, an insult is just that, an insult. It only becomes an ad hominem when you use that as an argument.
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12/21/2015 12:04:06 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/20/2015 11:14:51 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
An ad hominem is not the same as just any other insult. I see this happen a few times before on this site and else, an argument occurs, one guy insults the other, and the next person yells out "ad hominem"

Insults and ad hominems are both personal attacks, but an ad hominem is a personal attack disguised as an argument. An ad hominem takes the logic of an argument, and applies it to an insult.

For example. This would be an ad hominem:

Speaker A: I believe squirells should be illegal.

Speaker B: COming from the guy who likes chipmunks. You are wrong ebcause you are a chipmunk.

This is not an ad hominem:

Speaker A: All guns are secretly gay.

Speaker B
: You're Stupid.

Speaker A: Is dat a fallacy I hear? #GetRekt


An ad hominem is an argument, an insult is just that, an insult. It only becomes an ad hominem when you use that as an argument.

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12/21/2015 12:06:05 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 12:04:06 AM, TBR wrote:
At 12/20/2015 11:14:51 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
An ad hominem is not the same as just any other insult. I see this happen a few times before on this site and else, an argument occurs, one guy insults the other, and the next person yells out "ad hominem"

Insults and ad hominems are both personal attacks, but an ad hominem is a personal attack disguised as an argument. An ad hominem takes the logic of an argument, and applies it to an insult.

For example. This would be an ad hominem:

Speaker A: I believe squirells should be illegal.

Speaker B: COming from the guy who likes chipmunks. You are wrong ebcause you are a chipmunk.

This is not an ad hominem:

Speaker A: All guns are secretly gay.

Speaker B
: You're Stupid.

Speaker A: Is dat a fallacy I hear? #GetRekt


An ad hominem is an argument, an insult is just that, an insult. It only becomes an ad hominem when you use that as an argument.

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12/21/2015 12:09:21 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/20/2015 11:14:51 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
An ad hominem is not the same as just any other insult. I see this happen a few times before on this site and else, an argument occurs, one guy insults the other, and the next person yells out "ad hominem"

Insults and ad hominems are both personal attacks, but an ad hominem is a personal attack disguised as an argument. An ad hominem takes the logic of an argument, and applies it to an insult.

For example. This would be an ad hominem:

Speaker A: I believe squirells should be illegal.

Speaker B: COming from the guy who likes chipmunks. You are wrong ebcause you are a chipmunk.

This is not an ad hominem:

Speaker A: All guns are secretly gay.

Speaker B
: You're Stupid.

Speaker A: Is dat a fallacy I hear? #GetRekt


An ad hominem is an argument, an insult is just that, an insult. It only becomes an ad hominem when you use that as an argument.

What about an ad homisult?
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12/21/2015 6:57:52 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/20/2015 11:14:51 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
An ad hominem is not the same as just any other insult. I see this happen a few times before on this site and else, an argument occurs, one guy insults the other, and the next person yells out "ad hominem"

Insults and ad hominems are both personal attacks, but an ad hominem is a personal attack disguised as an argument. An ad hominem takes the logic of an argument, and applies it to an insult.

For example. This would be an ad hominem:

Speaker A: I believe squirells should be illegal.

Speaker B: COming from the guy who likes chipmunks. You are wrong ebcause you are a chipmunk.

This is not an ad hominem:

Speaker A: All guns are secretly gay.

Speaker B
: You're Stupid.

Speaker A: Is dat a fallacy I hear? #GetRekt


An ad hominem is an argument, an insult is just that, an insult. It only becomes an ad hominem when you use that as an argument.

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12/21/2015 8:29:49 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
Technically ad hominem means "to the person" so an insult and an ad hominem attack are the same thing. You are bringing up the differences between an ad hominem fallacy and an insult.
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12/22/2015 2:40:02 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/20/2015 11:14:51 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
An ad hominem is not the same as just any other insult. I see this happen a few times before on this site and else, an argument occurs, one guy insults the other, and the next person yells out "ad hominem"

Insults and ad hominems are both personal attacks, but an ad hominem is a personal attack disguised as an argument. An ad hominem takes the logic of an argument, and applies it to an insult.

For example. This would be an ad hominem:

Speaker A: I believe squirells should be illegal.

Speaker B: COming from the guy who likes chipmunks. You are wrong ebcause you are a chipmunk.

This is not an ad hominem:

Speaker A: All guns are secretly gay.

Speaker B
: You're Stupid.

Speaker A: Is dat a fallacy I hear? #GetRekt


An ad hominem is an argument, an insult is just that, an insult. It only becomes an ad hominem when you use that as an argument.

Your argument here in invalid because you have made incorrect arguments in the past.

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THAT was ad homenum - yet it wasn't a personal attack.