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Hello! I'm a total noob at debating

Mikozee
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10/7/2008 9:10:33 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
The title wasn't meant to be modest or to belittle myself; I mean it literally. I have never done a "formal" debating (like what I've seen here so far and on TV) and I gotta admit; It's pretty damn intimidating. You gotta realize that on the internet, being able to type properly with decent grammar skills and correct capitalization already puts you high up in the invisible internet hierarchy. But holy crap.... what I've seen so far is already eons above what I've ever seen on the internet. Hell, it's levels beyond even what I see in real life!

Anyway, like I wrote above, I'm 100% new to this whole debating thing. Is there an easy website that I can learn from that gives description definitions (like what contention means?) and some good instructions? And if possible, could anyone give me some personal pointers that newbies, like myself, tend to make that I should avoid?

I'm eager to debate on things that I could never have had a formal debate with on the internet or even real life. As many of you may or may not be familiar with, it's nearly impossible to have any decent argument on the internet so it'll be pretty interesting....
PoeJoe
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10/7/2008 9:25:29 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Contention is just a fancy term for "argument".

I don't know enough about debate to give any pointers, but what I can tell you is to just jump right in. 'Learn from experience' is the phrase I follow.

I am ashamed of my first debates, but it is from them I learned to be not completely terrible.
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Ragnar_Rahl
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10/7/2008 10:09:32 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Don't worry about the formality crap, once you understand the words, this website is by and large INFORMAL debate (also known as just trying to prove you are right :D). There are two kinds of people who use all the formality crap here: The ones who are practicing for a formal debate IRL, usually Lincoln-Douglas or Policy style, and the ones who are compensating for something. Just argue what you think, or perhaps find funny to argue, and you'll do fine, as long as you think intelligently, or have a good sense of humor.
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Ragnar_Rahl
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10/7/2008 10:11:57 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Oh yeah, and ignore everything I just said if you see a debate labelled "LD debaters only" or "policy debaters only" of course. It's bad form not to comply with such requests. I'm sure if ya wanna learn either one, or even some other style less common here, you'll find a tutor, but it'll be a pain in the butt, and I'd say not worth it :D.
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Zerosmelt
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10/7/2008 10:21:22 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Wel, Welcome Mate!
All i have to say is don't get your hopes up too high. This site is very nice but I wouldn't go so far as to say its a glimmering beakon of light admist the chaos we call the internet. Most of the people on here do engage in very inciteful debates though. All depends on the debater.
Wayne
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10/8/2008 1:49:15 AM
Posted: 8 years ago
heya, enjoy this site =]

there really isnt that much to debate, just read the ones here and you'll pick it up quickly
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RoyLatham
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10/8/2008 1:23:49 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
The standards for debate here vary quite a bit. People post topics that do not have a verb in them, so it is impossible for the average person to even know what the topic is. One of the cardinal rules of debate is that every argument must be answered, but people frequently just ignore what their opponent says in favor of saying what they like. Another convention is to give reasons for why you believe what you believe, but people here are often content to restate their beliefs without new logical arguments. So there is no possibility that you will fail to measure up to the local standards. That's OK, the goal is to have fun while learning something.

I think it helps to number points and match them to responses. That it makes it more clear when an opponent has failed to respond.

To improve, a good start is to do a Google search on "logical fallacies." That will turn up some tutorials on the basics of analytical thinking. In ordinary conversation it is poor form to say things like "that is the fallacy of the contrapositive," but on a debate site it seems to me that such shop talk is in order.

I suggest starting with topics that you know a lot about, so you can spend more time on forming the arguments and less time on researching the topic.
Ragnar_Rahl
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10/8/2008 2:05:50 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
the contrapositive is a fallacy?
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4/23/2012 9:18:07 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
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