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3/22/2016 7:15:26 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Aloha, DDO!

Several thing have been on my mind lately that have caused me to arrive at the decision to withdraw from Wylted's campaign. Politically-speaking, it was my goal to form a unity ticket, namely, a grand coalition between the Tories and Labour. In bringing together to factions, I hoped to reduce the overall possibility of drama and to preserve several programs I thought were important or useful. It has become clear to me now that such a unity ticket will not achieve the goal of reducing drama, and may not appeal to either set of voters--Tory or Labour.

On a more personal level, there are three main things that have pushed me towards this move. Firstly, once I realized that drama was inevitable, no matter the ticket, I also came to the conclusion that I did not have the emotional energy to participate as a candidate in this cycle. Secondly, by reducing my commitments, I will have more time to reengage with what made this site initially so appealing to me: the friends and the debating. I will also have more time to reengage with my life IRL, certain aspects of which I have neglected in order to invest my time and energy into my obligations on the site. Finally, I have been nominated to apply for a Fulbright Scholarship. My advisers caution me about the significant time commitment this process will entail, and so scaling back my involvement will allow to to refocus towards my application.

Looking forward to the election, I will remain neutral. I may offer an official endorsement later on, or I may not. I will keep my options open. At the present time, however, I will say that I favor any campaign which does not seek the abolition of the Presidency or a severe curtailment in Presidential or Moderation's action or authority. I do extend my well-wishes to Wylted though; it was extremely kind of him to work with me and it shows a desire to bring the site together.

I do not intend to run myself for a third term; nor will I be campaigning for or against any candidate at this time, or for the next few weeks. I will continue to run my administration as I have done for the last 9 months--with integrity, a focus towards the usership, and transparency. I look forward to an exciting election cycle.

Sincerely,
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3/22/2016 7:22:01 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
So who will Wylted pick to be his other Co-VP now?
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3/22/2016 7:54:32 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 7:22:01 PM, imabench wrote:
So who will Wylted pick to be his other Co-VP now?

The question I have is, will you be dropping 11 of your 12 co-vps?
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3/22/2016 8:09:21 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 7:15:26 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Aloha, DDO!

Several thing have been on my mind lately that have caused me to arrive at the decision to withdraw from Wylted's campaign. Politically-speaking, it was my goal to form a unity ticket, namely, a grand coalition between the Tories and Labour. In bringing together to factions, I hoped to reduce the overall possibility of drama and to preserve several programs I thought were important or useful. It has become clear to me now that such a unity ticket will not achieve the goal of reducing drama, and may not appeal to either set of voters--Tory or Labour.

On a more personal level, there are three main things that have pushed me towards this move. Firstly, once I realized that drama was inevitable, no matter the ticket, I also came to the conclusion that I did not have the emotional energy to participate as a candidate in this cycle. Secondly, by reducing my commitments, I will have more time to reengage with what made this site initially so appealing to me: the friends and the debating. I will also have more time to reengage with my life IRL, certain aspects of which I have neglected in order to invest my time and energy into my obligations on the site. Finally, I have been nominated to apply for a Fulbright Scholarship. My advisers caution me about the significant time commitment this process will entail, and so scaling back my involvement will allow to to refocus towards my application.

Looking forward to the election, I will remain neutral. I may offer an official endorsement later on, or I may not. I will keep my options open. At the present time, however, I will say that I favor any campaign which does not seek the abolition of the Presidency or a severe curtailment in Presidential or Moderation's action or authority. I do extend my well-wishes to Wylted though; it was extremely kind of him to work with me and it shows a desire to bring the site together.

I do not intend to run myself for a third term; nor will I be campaigning for or against any candidate at this time, or for the next few weeks. I will continue to run my administration as I have done for the last 9 months--with integrity, a focus towards the usership, and transparency. I look forward to an exciting election cycle.

Sincerely,
Bsh1

Good idea BSH1.

I know your intentions were not received in the way you wanted, but I totally understand why it backfired.

Lastly. I think discussing the dismantling of the presidency should be discussed openly and honestly. It was not my intention to support Wylted in the last election so he could or would dismantle the office, but there was no actual plan as imabench has devised. I think it deserved real consideration.
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3/22/2016 8:52:40 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 7:15:26 PM, bsh1 wrote:

Alrighty. Good luck on the scholarship! :)
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3/22/2016 9:07:41 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
You flip-flop almost as much as our soon-to-be God-Emperor.
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3/22/2016 9:21:11 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 7:22:01 PM, imabench wrote:
So who will Wylted pick to be his other Co-VP now?

IDK.
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3/22/2016 9:24:21 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 8:09:21 PM, TBR wrote:
Good idea BSH1.

I know your intentions were not received in the way you wanted, but I totally understand why it backfired.

Well, being portrayed as a power-hungry egomaniac is a bit more than "not being received in the way I hoped," but it is what it is. I am not going to endure that kind of drama for another election cycle. It was childish of F16 and Addison to engage in, but that kind of bullying does work, unfortunately.

Lastly. I think discussing the dismantling of the presidency should be discussed openly and honestly. It was not my intention to support Wylted in the last election so he could or would dismantle the office, but there was no actual plan as imabench has devised. I think it deserved real consideration.

Imabench's plan is nonsensical for a variety of reasons, but I am not going to get into that now. I am temporarily washing my hands of it. Bishius Pilate.

I don't have an issue with discussing the possibility either; my issue is with enacting it.
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3/22/2016 9:24:38 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 8:52:40 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 3/22/2016 7:15:26 PM, bsh1 wrote:

Alrighty. Good luck on the scholarship! :)

Thanks :)
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3/22/2016 9:24:49 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 9:07:41 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
You flip-flop almost as much as our soon-to-be God-Emperor.

Lol.
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3/22/2016 9:32:49 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 9:24:21 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/22/2016 8:09:21 PM, TBR wrote:
Good idea BSH1.

I know your intentions were not received in the way you wanted, but I totally understand why it backfired.

Well, being portrayed as a power-hungry egomaniac is a bit more than "not being received in the way I hoped," but it is what it is. I am not going to endure that kind of drama for another election cycle. It was childish of F16 and Addison to engage in, but that kind of bullying does work, unfortunately.

Criticism =/= Bullying

Lastly. I think discussing the dismantling of the presidency should be discussed openly and honestly. It was not my intention to support Wylted in the last election so he could or would dismantle the office, but there was no actual plan as imabench has devised. I think it deserved real consideration.

Imabench's plan is nonsensical for a variety of reasons

Yet you thought being Co-VP's wasnt? XD
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3/22/2016 9:35:45 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 9:32:49 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:24:21 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/22/2016 8:09:21 PM, TBR wrote:
Good idea BSH1.

I know your intentions were not received in the way you wanted, but I totally understand why it backfired.

Well, being portrayed as a power-hungry egomaniac is a bit more than "not being received in the way I hoped," but it is what it is. I am not going to endure that kind of drama for another election cycle. It was childish of F16 and Addison to engage in, but that kind of bullying does work, unfortunately.

Criticism =/= Bullying

Lastly. I think discussing the dismantling of the presidency should be discussed openly and honestly. It was not my intention to support Wylted in the last election so he could or would dismantle the office, but there was no actual plan as imabench has devised. I think it deserved real consideration.

Imabench's plan is nonsensical for a variety of reasons

Yet you thought being Co-VP's wasnt? XD

I'm genuinely curious as to why so many people are against that idea.
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3/22/2016 9:40:31 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 9:35:45 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:32:49 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:24:21 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/22/2016 8:09:21 PM, TBR wrote:
Good idea BSH1.

I know your intentions were not received in the way you wanted, but I totally understand why it backfired.

Well, being portrayed as a power-hungry egomaniac is a bit more than "not being received in the way I hoped," but it is what it is. I am not going to endure that kind of drama for another election cycle. It was childish of F16 and Addison to engage in, but that kind of bullying does work, unfortunately.

Criticism =/= Bullying

Lastly. I think discussing the dismantling of the presidency should be discussed openly and honestly. It was not my intention to support Wylted in the last election so he could or would dismantle the office, but there was no actual plan as imabench has devised. I think it deserved real consideration.

Imabench's plan is nonsensical for a variety of reasons

Yet you thought being Co-VP's wasnt? XD

I'm genuinely curious as to why so many people are against that idea.

Read the thread, im sure there are reasons people give http://www.debate.org...
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Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

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3/22/2016 9:42:30 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 9:32:49 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:24:21 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/22/2016 8:09:21 PM, TBR wrote:
Good idea BSH1.

I know your intentions were not received in the way you wanted, but I totally understand why it backfired.

Well, being portrayed as a power-hungry egomaniac is a bit more than "not being received in the way I hoped," but it is what it is. I am not going to endure that kind of drama for another election cycle. It was childish of F16 and Addison to engage in, but that kind of bullying does work, unfortunately.

Criticism =/= Bullying

I should clarify that I didn't mean to imply that Addison bullied, though his comments were still childish and inappropriate. I had F16 more in mind when I said what I did. Let me quote from F16:

"you don't have a high level of intellectual integrity," "it's so hard to get anything through to your thick skull," "[y]our personality is so messed up I'm glad the only 'official' thing you do on this site is something completely inconsequential," "[y]ou can't actually be retarded enough to believe that," "[i]nteracting with you is a literal pain."

There is a threshold between criticism and personal attacks. The above comments were, per Max's conduct policy, "mere insults;" this qualifies them as personal attacks, not criticism. Criticism is fine, personal attacks are not. I am of the opinion that personal attacks are a form of bullying.

Lastly. I think discussing the dismantling of the presidency should be discussed openly and honestly. It was not my intention to support Wylted in the last election so he could or would dismantle the office, but there was no actual plan as imabench has devised. I think it deserved real consideration.

Imabench's plan is nonsensical for a variety of reasons

Yet you thought being Co-VP's wasnt? XD

It wasn't, and I explained why. But the two ideas are not analogous anyway--one is a platform, one is an position.
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3/22/2016 9:42:54 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 9:40:31 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:35:45 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:32:49 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:24:21 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/22/2016 8:09:21 PM, TBR wrote:
Good idea BSH1.

I know your intentions were not received in the way you wanted, but I totally understand why it backfired.

Well, being portrayed as a power-hungry egomaniac is a bit more than "not being received in the way I hoped," but it is what it is. I am not going to endure that kind of drama for another election cycle. It was childish of F16 and Addison to engage in, but that kind of bullying does work, unfortunately.

Criticism =/= Bullying

Lastly. I think discussing the dismantling of the presidency should be discussed openly and honestly. It was not my intention to support Wylted in the last election so he could or would dismantle the office, but there was no actual plan as imabench has devised. I think it deserved real consideration.

Imabench's plan is nonsensical for a variety of reasons

Yet you thought being Co-VP's wasnt? XD

I'm genuinely curious as to why so many people are against that idea.

Read the thread, im sure there are reasons people give http://www.debate.org...

Okay. But I'm merely asking *you*.
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3/22/2016 9:52:37 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 9:42:54 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:40:31 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:35:45 PM, Rosalie wrote:

I'm genuinely curious as to why so many people are against that idea.

Read the thread, im sure there are reasons people give http://www.debate.org...

Okay. But I'm merely asking *you*.

Well I think the presidency itself is stupid, so naturally I also think the position of vice president is also stupid, and that having 2 of them is just doubling down on the stupidity of it :P

I also served as VP under Mikal and know firsthand how pointless the position itself is. My job as VP ended the day the election finished, I didnt serve any purpose as VP after that day
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3/22/2016 9:54:22 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 9:52:37 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:42:54 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:40:31 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:35:45 PM, Rosalie wrote:

I'm genuinely curious as to why so many people are against that idea.

Read the thread, im sure there are reasons people give http://www.debate.org...

Okay. But I'm merely asking *you*.

Well I think the presidency itself is stupid, so naturally I also think the position of vice president is also stupid, and that having 2 of them is just doubling down on the stupidity of it :P

I also served as VP under Mikal and know firsthand how pointless the position itself is. My job as VP ended the day the election finished, I didnt serve any purpose as VP after that day

Weren't you banned under your presidency with Mikal? Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't remember. Why did you serve such a short term?
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3/22/2016 9:56:04 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 9:54:22 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:52:37 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:42:54 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:40:31 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:35:45 PM, Rosalie wrote:

I'm genuinely curious as to why so many people are against that idea.

Read the thread, im sure there are reasons people give http://www.debate.org...

Okay. But I'm merely asking *you*.

Well I think the presidency itself is stupid, so naturally I also think the position of vice president is also stupid, and that having 2 of them is just doubling down on the stupidity of it :P

I also served as VP under Mikal and know firsthand how pointless the position itself is. My job as VP ended the day the election finished, I didnt serve any purpose as VP after that day

Weren't you banned under your presidency with Mikal? Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't remember. Why did you serve such a short term?

Got in a spat with Zarroette (Who didnt though right?) and while I was serving that temp ban Mikal had resigned, Airmax called for an emergency election, and Ore_Ele + I think it was Debateability were elected in a heartbeat.... I basically missed all the fun >.>
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Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

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3/22/2016 9:58:05 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 9:42:30 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:32:49 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:24:21 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/22/2016 8:09:21 PM, TBR wrote:
Good idea BSH1.

I know your intentions were not received in the way you wanted, but I totally understand why it backfired.

Well, being portrayed as a power-hungry egomaniac is a bit more than "not being received in the way I hoped," but it is what it is. I am not going to endure that kind of drama for another election cycle. It was childish of F16 and Addison to engage in, but that kind of bullying does work, unfortunately.

Criticism =/= Bullying

I should clarify that I didn't mean to imply that Addison bullied, though his comments were still childish and inappropriate. I had F16 more in mind when I said what I did. Let me quote from F16:

You and F-16 got into it I saw that but I didnt see anything from Addison that qualified as 'bullying' which is what I was commenting on

"you don't have a high level of intellectual integrity," "it's so hard to get anything through to your thick skull," "[y]our personality is so messed up I'm glad the only 'official' thing you do on this site is something completely inconsequential," "[y]ou can't actually be retarded enough to believe that," "[i]nteracting with you is a literal pain."

Did those happen in the actual thread itself or were these other incidents from the past between you two?
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3/22/2016 10:03:17 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 9:56:04 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:54:22 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:52:37 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:42:54 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:40:31 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:35:45 PM, Rosalie wrote:

I'm genuinely curious as to why so many people are against that idea.

Read the thread, im sure there are reasons people give http://www.debate.org...

Okay. But I'm merely asking *you*.

Well I think the presidency itself is stupid, so naturally I also think the position of vice president is also stupid, and that having 2 of them is just doubling down on the stupidity of it :P

I also served as VP under Mikal and know firsthand how pointless the position itself is. My job as VP ended the day the election finished, I didnt serve any purpose as VP after that day

Weren't you banned under your presidency with Mikal? Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't remember. Why did you serve such a short term?

Got in a spat with Zarroette (Who didnt though right?) and while I was serving that temp ban Mikal had resigned, Airmax called for an emergency election, and Ore_Ele + I think it was Debateability were elected in a heartbeat.... I basically missed all the fun >.>

Alright..

So, it's not really fair for you to say that the whole Presidency is useless and stupid, because;

A) You ran for presidency with Mikal
B) You got temp banned when you weren't even a vp for like what, a month? So, you didn't really have much time to accomplish things.
C)When you came back, mikal had resigned, so it didn't give you an opportunity to save yourself as VP and make up for it.

It seems to me like you're jealous and angry that you got temp-banned during your term as VP, so you think the whole thing is stupid.

So please, stop.
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3/22/2016 10:09:06 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 9:58:05 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:42:30 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:32:49 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:24:21 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/22/2016 8:09:21 PM, TBR wrote:
Good idea BSH1.

I know your intentions were not received in the way you wanted, but I totally understand why it backfired.

Well, being portrayed as a power-hungry egomaniac is a bit more than "not being received in the way I hoped," but it is what it is. I am not going to endure that kind of drama for another election cycle. It was childish of F16 and Addison to engage in, but that kind of bullying does work, unfortunately.

Criticism =/= Bullying

I should clarify that I didn't mean to imply that Addison bullied, though his comments were still childish and inappropriate. I had F16 more in mind when I said what I did. Let me quote from F16:

You and F-16 got into it I saw that but I didnt see anything from Addison that qualified as 'bullying' which is what I was commenting on

Okay. I understand that, and I definitely didn't mean to imply that he was.

"you don't have a high level of intellectual integrity," "it's so hard to get anything through to your thick skull," "[y]our personality is so messed up I'm glad the only 'official' thing you do on this site is something completely inconsequential," "[y]ou can't actually be retarded enough to believe that," "[i]nteracting with you is a literal pain."

Did those happen in the actual thread itself or were these other incidents from the past between you two?

Recent incidents. They happened within 4 and 3 days of the thread. They formed the backdrop of my and F16's interaction in that thread. He basically used that thread to imply that I was untrustworthy, and to say that I was a power-hungry egomaniac who would do anything to retain my title of authority.
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3/22/2016 10:19:01 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 10:03:17 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:56:04 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:54:22 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:52:37 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:42:54 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:40:31 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:35:45 PM, Rosalie wrote:

I'm genuinely curious as to why so many people are against that idea.

Read the thread, im sure there are reasons people give http://www.debate.org...

Okay. But I'm merely asking *you*.

Well I think the presidency itself is stupid, so naturally I also think the position of vice president is also stupid, and that having 2 of them is just doubling down on the stupidity of it :P

I also served as VP under Mikal and know firsthand how pointless the position itself is. My job as VP ended the day the election finished, I didnt serve any purpose as VP after that day

Weren't you banned under your presidency with Mikal? Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't remember. Why did you serve such a short term?

Got in a spat with Zarroette (Who didnt though right?) and while I was serving that temp ban Mikal had resigned, Airmax called for an emergency election, and Ore_Ele + I think it was Debateability were elected in a heartbeat.... I basically missed all the fun >.>

Alright..

So, it's not really fair for you to say that the whole Presidency is useless and stupid, because;

A) You ran for presidency with Mikal

He was adamant on me running with him. He dragged me back onto DDO to do exactly that

B) You got temp banned when you weren't even a vp for like what, a month? So, you didn't really have much time to accomplish things.

I wouldnt have needed to do anything as VP to 'accomplsih things', ive accomplished more on this site than some presidents have accomplished put together.

C) When you came back, mikal had resigned, so it didn't give you an opportunity to save yourself as VP and make up for it.

It seems to me like you're jealous and angry that you got temp-banned during your term as VP, so you think the whole thing is stupid.

So please, stop.

Thats quite possibly the dumbest reasoning ive ever heard XD

Ive been temp banned 7 times already so why would I get jealous over it? If I actually was jealous then I would have run in the next available election, which I didnt. And I didnt run in the election after that either. In fact being the shortest serving VP in the history of the site is just another thing to add to my huge resume of fame/infamy in the first place on top of it
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3/22/2016 10:41:28 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 9:35:45 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:32:49 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:24:21 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/22/2016 8:09:21 PM, TBR wrote:
Good idea BSH1.

I know your intentions were not received in the way you wanted, but I totally understand why it backfired.

Well, being portrayed as a power-hungry egomaniac is a bit more than "not being received in the way I hoped," but it is what it is. I am not going to endure that kind of drama for another election cycle. It was childish of F16 and Addison to engage in, but that kind of bullying does work, unfortunately.

Criticism =/= Bullying

Lastly. I think discussing the dismantling of the presidency should be discussed openly and honestly. It was not my intention to support Wylted in the last election so he could or would dismantle the office, but there was no actual plan as imabench has devised. I think it deserved real consideration.

Imabench's plan is nonsensical for a variety of reasons

Yet you thought being Co-VP's wasnt? XD

I'm genuinely curious as to why so many people are against that idea.

For the same reason calling myself the "king of information systems" is bullsh1t. It's fictionists at best, diluted at worst.
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3/23/2016 12:54:50 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
Ok wow, now I know how people accused of a crime they didn't commit feel like. I fell asleep for a bit and woke up so I'm too tired but I'll point out all of bsh's lies and misrepresentations and out-of-context quotes in a bit. He sures loves playing the victim.
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3/23/2016 12:56:02 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 10:09:06 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:58:05 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:42:30 PM, bsh1 wrote:

"you don't have a high level of intellectual integrity," "it's so hard to get anything through to your thick skull," "[y]our personality is so messed up I'm glad the only 'official' thing you do on this site is something completely inconsequential," "[y]ou can't actually be retarded enough to believe that," "[i]nteracting with you is a literal pain."

Did those happen in the actual thread itself or were these other incidents from the past between you two?

Recent incidents. They happened within 4 and 3 days of the thread.

If they didnt happen in the thread then you cant point to that thread itself and claim he was bullying you in it....
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3/23/2016 12:57:32 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 12:56:02 AM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 10:09:06 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:58:05 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/22/2016 9:42:30 PM, bsh1 wrote:

"you don't have a high level of intellectual integrity," "it's so hard to get anything through to your thick skull," "[y]our personality is so messed up I'm glad the only 'official' thing you do on this site is something completely inconsequential," "[y]ou can't actually be retarded enough to believe that," "[i]nteracting with you is a literal pain."

Did those happen in the actual thread itself or were these other incidents from the past between you two?

Recent incidents. They happened within 4 and 3 days of the thread.

If they didnt happen in the thread then you cant point to that thread itself and claim he was bullying you in it....

*sigh* Bench, these comments provide necessary context for framing the remarks (which were themselves attempts at character assassination) in that thread.
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3/23/2016 1:34:08 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/22/2016 7:15:26 PM, bsh1 wrote:

Congrats! I have a family friend who taught English in South Korea, and it was a wonderful experience. I wish you the best of luck.
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3/23/2016 1:34:31 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 1:34:08 AM, FortisAnimi wrote:
At 3/22/2016 7:15:26 PM, bsh1 wrote:

Congrats! I have a family friend who taught English in South Korea, and it was a wonderful experience. I wish you the best of luck.

Thanks :)
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3/23/2016 1:35:37 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 1:34:31 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 1:34:08 AM, FortisAnimi wrote:
At 3/22/2016 7:15:26 PM, bsh1 wrote:

Congrats! I have a family friend who taught English in South Korea, and it was a wonderful experience. I wish you the best of luck.

Thanks :)

This sig though. Chaning
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3/23/2016 1:37:00 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 12:54:50 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Ok wow, now I know how people accused of a crime they didn't commit feel like. I fell asleep for a bit and woke up so I'm too tired but I'll point out all of bsh's lies and misrepresentations and out-of-context quotes in a bit. He sures loves playing the victim.

*sigh*

Let's just call a truce--I agree not to talk about you negatively and you agree the same about me. If you want to criticize my job performance as President, you could still do that, just leave me as a person out of it.
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