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4/8/2016 11:34:37 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
There are 2,366,793 posts at the time I write this total on the site. Look at the first page of the forum leaderboard alone. There are 545,864 posts on the first page of the leaderboard at it's last update. That means that 23.08% of posts were made by a certain 30 members - and the person who posted most ever isn't even on it. If YYW were added, and GeoLaurate taken out, that would be 23.89% of posts made by the top 30. Though, 13 of the top 30 aren't active. So about 10 to 12 percent of all posts in DDO history were made by the top 17 forum contributors who are active.

The point of this? Well, I think the problem is getting worse. I think we can fully expect small groups of members to increasingly dominate the forums. Looking at the politics forum, 90% of all of the rational discussion in it in the past month were probably made by about 10 members. The problem, specifically, is that the group needs to expand, or we risk boring ourselves with the same conversations.
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4/8/2016 11:36:13 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
You're right. The government should take over and redistribute the posts from those with the highest count to the lowest to create a fair and equal DDO.
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4/8/2016 11:37:29 PM
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At 4/8/2016 11:36:13 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
You're right. The government should take over and redistribute the posts from those with the highest count to the lowest to create a fair and equal DDO.

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4/8/2016 11:40:49 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/8/2016 11:34:37 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There are 2,366,793 posts at the time I write this total on the site. Look at the first page of the forum leaderboard alone. There are 545,864 posts on the first page of the leaderboard at it's last update. That means that 23.08% of posts were made by a certain 30 members - and the person who posted most ever isn't even on it. If YYW were added, and GeoLaurate taken out, that would be 23.89% of posts made by the top 30. Though, 13 of the top 30 aren't active. So about 10 to 12 percent of all posts in DDO history were made by the top 17 forum contributors who are active.

The point of this? Well, I think the problem is getting worse. I think we can fully expect small groups of members to increasingly dominate the forums. Looking at the politics forum, 90% of all of the rational discussion in it in the past month were probably made by about 10 members. The problem, specifically, is that the group needs to expand, or we risk boring ourselves with the same conversations.

When you add in previous accounts and alternate accounts the number grows even higher I bet
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4/8/2016 11:40:51 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/8/2016 11:34:37 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There are 2,366,793 posts at the time I write this total on the site. Look at the first page of the forum leaderboard alone. There are 545,864 posts on the first page of the leaderboard at it's last update. That means that 23.08% of posts were made by a certain 30 members - and the person who posted most ever isn't even on it. If YYW were added, and GeoLaurate taken out, that would be 23.89% of posts made by the top 30. Though, 13 of the top 30 aren't active. So about 10 to 12 percent of all posts in DDO history were made by the top 17 forum contributors who are active.

The point of this? Well, I think the problem is getting worse. I think we can fully expect small groups of members to increasingly dominate the forums. Looking at the politics forum, 90% of all of the rational discussion in it in the past month were probably made by about 10 members. The problem, specifically, is that the group needs to expand, or we risk boring ourselves with the same conversations.

I do think that there is an emerging class of members recently. I think this would be an excellent conversation for the presidential candidates to have, instead of useless and trivial threads about who said this or that and he/she being bullies or trolls...very ridiculous
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4/8/2016 11:48:16 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/8/2016 11:40:49 PM, imabench wrote:
At 4/8/2016 11:34:37 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There are 2,366,793 posts at the time I write this total on the site. Look at the first page of the forum leaderboard alone. There are 545,864 posts on the first page of the leaderboard at it's last update. That means that 23.08% of posts were made by a certain 30 members - and the person who posted most ever isn't even on it. If YYW were added, and GeoLaurate taken out, that would be 23.89% of posts made by the top 30. Though, 13 of the top 30 aren't active. So about 10 to 12 percent of all posts in DDO history were made by the top 17 forum contributors who are active.

The point of this? Well, I think the problem is getting worse. I think we can fully expect small groups of members to increasingly dominate the forums. Looking at the politics forum, 90% of all of the rational discussion in it in the past month were probably made by about 10 members. The problem, specifically, is that the group needs to expand, or we risk boring ourselves with the same conversations.

When you add in previous accounts and alternate accounts the number grows even higher I bet

Definitely. I mean, YYW had 31,000. Badger had ~23,000. Rev had 13,000...I think Spinko's total is about 16,000. Drafted has an extra 2,000 in the Great/Powerful account. Bossy had 16,000 more.
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4/8/2016 11:56:01 PM
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At 4/8/2016 11:36:13 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
You're right. The government should take over and redistribute the posts from those with the highest count to the lowest to create a fair and equal DDO.

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4/9/2016 12:12:55 AM
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At 4/8/2016 11:56:01 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 4/8/2016 11:36:13 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
You're right. The government should take over and redistribute the posts from those with the highest count to the lowest to create a fair and equal DDO.

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4/9/2016 12:16:10 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/8/2016 11:36:13 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
You're right. The government should take over and redistribute the posts from those with the highest count to the lowest to create a fair and equal DDO.

Lol I was thinking this same exact thing too.
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4/9/2016 12:24:16 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/8/2016 11:34:37 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There are 2,366,793 posts at the time I write this total on the site. Look at the first page of the forum leaderboard alone. There are 545,864 posts on the first page of the leaderboard at it's last update. That means that 23.08% of posts were made by a certain 30 members - and the person who posted most ever isn't even on it. If YYW were added, and GeoLaurate taken out, that would be 23.89% of posts made by the top 30. Though, 13 of the top 30 aren't active. So about 10 to 12 percent of all posts in DDO history were made by the top 17 forum contributors who are active.

The point of this? Well, I think the problem is getting worse. I think we can fully expect small groups of members to increasingly dominate the forums. Looking at the politics forum, 90% of all of the rational discussion in it in the past month were probably made by about 10 members. The problem, specifically, is that the group needs to expand, or we risk boring ourselves with the same conversations.

This means that new user outreach program is paramount; we need more new members to stay on the site and contribute.

Do you think this would warrant active advertising? Going out to other forum sites and asking people to join?
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4/9/2016 12:26:14 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 12:24:16 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 4/8/2016 11:34:37 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There are 2,366,793 posts at the time I write this total on the site. Look at the first page of the forum leaderboard alone. There are 545,864 posts on the first page of the leaderboard at it's last update. That means that 23.08% of posts were made by a certain 30 members - and the person who posted most ever isn't even on it. If YYW were added, and GeoLaurate taken out, that would be 23.89% of posts made by the top 30. Though, 13 of the top 30 aren't active. So about 10 to 12 percent of all posts in DDO history were made by the top 17 forum contributors who are active.

The point of this? Well, I think the problem is getting worse. I think we can fully expect small groups of members to increasingly dominate the forums. Looking at the politics forum, 90% of all of the rational discussion in it in the past month were probably made by about 10 members. The problem, specifically, is that the group needs to expand, or we risk boring ourselves with the same conversations.

This means that new user outreach program is paramount; we need more new members to stay on the site and contribute.

Do you think this would warrant active advertising? Going out to other forum sites and asking people to join?

I don't think that's oft taken well, for better or for worse.
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4/9/2016 12:57:52 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 12:26:14 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 4/9/2016 12:24:16 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 4/8/2016 11:34:37 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There are 2,366,793 posts at the time I write this total on the site. Look at the first page of the forum leaderboard alone. There are 545,864 posts on the first page of the leaderboard at it's last update. That means that 23.08% of posts were made by a certain 30 members - and the person who posted most ever isn't even on it. If YYW were added, and GeoLaurate taken out, that would be 23.89% of posts made by the top 30. Though, 13 of the top 30 aren't active. So about 10 to 12 percent of all posts in DDO history were made by the top 17 forum contributors who are active.

The point of this? Well, I think the problem is getting worse. I think we can fully expect small groups of members to increasingly dominate the forums. Looking at the politics forum, 90% of all of the rational discussion in it in the past month were probably made by about 10 members. The problem, specifically, is that the group needs to expand, or we risk boring ourselves with the same conversations.

This means that new user outreach program is paramount; we need more new members to stay on the site and contribute.

Do you think this would warrant active advertising? Going out to other forum sites and asking people to join?

I don't think that's oft taken well, for better or for worse.

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4/9/2016 1:10:47 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
I was curious, so I used the Wayback Machine to see if this is really a worsening problem.

In August of 2013, there were 387,000 posts by the top 30 users (Aug 1), and 1,233,573 posts total (Aug 3). This means that 31% of all forum posts were made by the top 30 users. I couldn't determine who was actually active at that time, but I think it's safe to assume that the posters still active at that time would still make up an enormous share of the posts.

Of course, this doesn't account for the fact that with more total users on the site and with many posters who have left over time, it's harder to appear as a larger share of the posts. If I put YYW into the stats in 2013 with the numbers he has now, and remove BlackVoid, he moves the post percentage of top users up a whole 2% in the 2013 data, as opposed to the .8% change he makes in 2016.

I think it's probably drama and vitriol that makes this site so tough to get integrated into.
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4/9/2016 1:15:19 AM
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At 4/8/2016 11:34:37 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There are 2,366,793 posts at the time I write this total on the site. Look at the first page of the forum leaderboard alone. There are 545,864 posts on the first page of the leaderboard at it's last update. That means that 23.08% of posts were made by a certain 30 members - and the person who posted most ever isn't even on it. If YYW were added, and GeoLaurate taken out, that would be 23.89% of posts made by the top 30. Though, 13 of the top 30 aren't active. So about 10 to 12 percent of all posts in DDO history were made by the top 17 forum contributors who are active.

The point of this? Well, I think the problem is getting worse. I think we can fully expect small groups of members to increasingly dominate the forums. Looking at the politics forum, 90% of all of the rational discussion in it in the past month were probably made by about 10 members. The problem, specifically, is that the group needs to expand, or we risk boring ourselves with the same conversations.

What skews this so much, and all the "users" on this site, are the ad spammers.
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4/9/2016 1:23:44 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
What percentage of the top users are mafia players? Cause if youre in mafia games all the time then thats a hell of a way to rack up posts without actually interacting with other members on the site, and definitely could be part of the reason why so few users have such a big % of overall posts
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4/9/2016 1:38:53 AM
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At 4/9/2016 1:23:44 AM, imabench wrote:
What percentage of the top users are mafia players? Cause if youre in mafia games all the time then thats a hell of a way to rack up posts without actually interacting with other members on the site, and definitely could be part of the reason why so few users have such a big % of overall posts

Good point
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4/9/2016 1:40:54 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/8/2016 11:36:13 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
You're right. The government should take over and redistribute the posts from those with the highest count to the lowest to create a fair and equal DDO.

You damn Pinkos.
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4/9/2016 4:22:36 PM
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Down with the 10%! We should have the government control all members most active in the forums and redistribute the post count to other, less active users!
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