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Seagull
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4/9/2016 2:42:05 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
After being on this website a short time, it is clear to me that when observing those who debate seriously there are good debaters and there are great debaters. In addition to seeing who DDO thinks is the greatest active debater I am curious as to what separates the good from the great.

Any thoughts?
Hayd
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4/9/2016 2:47:53 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 2:42:05 AM, Seagull wrote:
After being on this website a short time, it is clear to me that when observing those who debate seriously there are good debaters and there are great debaters. In addition to seeing who DDO thinks is the greatest active debater I am curious as to what separates the good from the great.

Any thoughts?

What seperates the good from the great comes in their ability to debate anything given to them. They can debate any topic, any side more than adequately. Secondly, they use short, concise, and lucid wording for their arguments. And they fully understand the use of impact calculus, syllogisms, and how to dismantle and argument that way, or pointing out contradictions.

The first characteristic I lack because I'm lazy XD
imabench
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4/9/2016 3:10:42 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 2:42:05 AM, Seagull wrote:
After being on this website a short time, it is clear to me that when observing those who debate seriously there are good debaters and there are great debaters. In addition to seeing who DDO thinks is the greatest active debater I am curious as to what separates the good from the great.

Any thoughts?

A good debater becomes a great debater when they beat other good debaters :P
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Hayd
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4/9/2016 3:28:25 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 3:10:42 AM, imabench wrote:
At 4/9/2016 2:42:05 AM, Seagull wrote:
After being on this website a short time, it is clear to me that when observing those who debate seriously there are good debaters and there are great debaters. In addition to seeing who DDO thinks is the greatest active debater I am curious as to what separates the good from the great.

Any thoughts?

A good debater becomes a great debater when they beat other good debaters :P

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RyuuKyuzo
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4/9/2016 3:29:29 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
A good debater can make clear and concise arguments that are valid, sound, and non-trivial.

A great debater can do that at 500 words per minute.
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dsjpk5
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4/9/2016 2:34:06 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 2:42:05 AM, Seagull wrote:
After being on this website a short time, it is clear to me that when observing those who debate seriously there are good debaters and there are great debaters. In addition to seeing who DDO thinks is the greatest active debater I am curious as to what separates the good from the great.

Any thoughts?

Who's the best??? You mean besides Vispex?
If that was the only issue, then vote moderation could be avoided more often, since a vote in which the voter does explain sufficiently how at least one point a debater made swung their vote, would be considered sufficient. -Airmax
Deb-8-A-Bull
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4/9/2016 3:10:04 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 2:34:06 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 4/9/2016 2:42:05 AM, Seagull wrote:
After being on this website a short time, it is clear to me that when observing those who debate seriously there are good debaters and there are great debaters. In addition to seeing who DDO thinks is the greatest active debater I am curious as to what separates the good from the great.

Any thoughts?

Who's the best??? You mean besides Vispex?

Your on report.
For I detect a slight sarcasm in your words.
No snarks or bad remarks are to be made to the vi_spex.
But at least you know his the best.
Consider this a warning.
dsjpk5
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4/9/2016 3:48:45 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 3:10:04 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 4/9/2016 2:34:06 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 4/9/2016 2:42:05 AM, Seagull wrote:
After being on this website a short time, it is clear to me that when observing those who debate seriously there are good debaters and there are great debaters. In addition to seeing who DDO thinks is the greatest active debater I am curious as to what separates the good from the great.

Any thoughts?

Who's the best??? You mean besides Vispex?

Your on report.
For I detect a slight sarcasm in your words.
No snarks or bad remarks are to be made to the vi_spex.
But at least you know his the best.
Consider this a warning.

There's absolutely no sarcasm in my words. I am not being snarky. I truly believe he's by far the best debater on this site. So I am now putting YOU on report!! You=report=warned+jelly-sarcasm=DDO royalty
If that was the only issue, then vote moderation could be avoided more often, since a vote in which the voter does explain sufficiently how at least one point a debater made swung their vote, would be considered sufficient. -Airmax
The_Perussi
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4/11/2016 4:56:38 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 2:34:06 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 4/9/2016 2:42:05 AM, Seagull wrote:
After being on this website a short time, it is clear to me that when observing those who debate seriously there are good debaters and there are great debaters. In addition to seeing who DDO thinks is the greatest active debater I am curious as to what separates the good from the great.

Any thoughts?

Who's the best??? You mean besides Vispex?

What do you mean?

We all know Vi_Spex is the greatest debater on this planet.
imabench
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4/11/2016 4:59:01 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/11/2016 4:54:18 PM, Seagull wrote:
So who is the best of the best?

Statistics say Mikal is the best http://www.debate.org...
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

DDO: THE MOVIE = http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

VP of DDO from Dec 14th 2014 to Jan 1st 2015
Seagull
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4/11/2016 5:08:34 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/11/2016 4:59:01 PM, imabench wrote:
At 4/11/2016 4:54:18 PM, Seagull wrote:
So who is the best of the best?

Statistics say Mikal is the best http://www.debate.org...

Is he really the best?
Kitchen_Sink
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4/11/2016 5:10:04 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/11/2016 5:08:34 PM, Seagull wrote:
At 4/11/2016 4:59:01 PM, imabench wrote:
At 4/11/2016 4:54:18 PM, Seagull wrote:
So who is the best of the best?

Statistics say Mikal is the best http://www.debate.org...

Is he really the best?

It is me. That is why you should vote for me for president.
The way white people is.