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4/9/2016 12:03:42 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
Welcome to the First Season of the Debate.org Debate Champions League!

The initial thread and sign-up thread can be viewed here:
http://www.debate.org...
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Teams - Participants

Nos Autem Non

Lannan13, CodingSource, Briannj17

Sixth International Order of Swag (iOS 6)

Tejretics, SolonKR, Uniferous

The Airmax Multis

Whiteflame, EverlastingMoment, UtherPenguin

Team Thrawn

Bsh1, ObiWan, Torton

Pugna Verborum

Famousdebater, FortisAnimi, Bob13

Sine Nomine

1harderthanyouthink, TUF, Ariesx
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League Schedule:

Debate One:

Nos Autem Non @ Pugna Verborum
Team Thrawn @ Sine Nomine
The Airmax Multis @ iOS6

Debate Two:

Sine Nomine @ Nos Autem Non
Pugna Verborum @ iOS6
Team Thrawn @ The Airmax Multis

Debate Three:

Nos Autem Non @ iOS6
Sine Nomine @ The Airmax Multis
Pugna Verborum @ Team Thrawn

Debate Four:

The Airmax Multis @ Nos Autem Non
iOS6 @ Team Thrawn
Sine Nomine @ Pugna Verborum

Debate Five:

Nos Autem Non @ Team Thrawn
The Airmax Multis @ Pugna Verborum
iOS6 @ Sine Nomine

Debate Six:

Pugna Verborum @ Nos Autem Non
Team Thrawn @ Sine Nomine
iOS6 @ The Airmax Multis
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By Team:

Nos Autem Non:

1) @ Pugna Verborum
2) Sine Nomine
3) @ iOS6
4) The Airmax Multis
5) @ Team Thrawn
6) Pugna Verborum

Sixth International Order of Swag (iOS 6):

1) The Airmax Multis
2) Pugna Verborum
3) Nos Autem Non
4) @ Team Thrawn
5) @ Sine Nomine
6) @ The Airmax Multis

The Airmax Multis:

1) @ iOS6
2) Team Thrawn
3) Sine Nomine
4) @ Nos Autem Non
5) @ Pugna Verborum
6) iOS6

Team Thrawn:

1) @ Sine Nomine
2) @ The Airmax Multis
3) Pugna Verborum
4) iOS6
5) Nos Autem Non
6) @ Sine Nomine

Pugna Verborum:

1) Nos Autem Non
2) @ iOS6
3) @ Team Thrawn
4) Sine Nomine
5) The Airmax Multis
6) @ Nos Autem Non

Sine Nomine:

1) Team Thrawn
2) @ Nos Autem Non
3) @ The Airmax Multis
4) @ Pugna Verborum
5) iOS6
6) Team Thrawn

Notes on the schedule:

The schedule was randomly generated to consist of 6 debates among 6 total teams. The use of "@" is to determine the "home" and "away" team. Teams at "home", are the debate challenger, while the away team (the first team listed - the team @ another team) is the debate instigator. This, in theory, assuming there is any advantage, gives that advantage to the home team, and balances that advantage throughout the entire season by providing every team with 3 "home" debates, and 3 "away" debates.

While I made every effort to balance this as much as possible, a couple oddities arose that inevitably made it to the final schedule. The first, though perhaps not being hugely significant, is that while most teams have their home and away debates a bit scattered, Team iOS 6 will play 3 consecutive home debates, and then three consecutive away debates.

Secondly, and far more significant, is that while finalizing the schedule I realized that Sine Nomine had 4 "away" debates, and only 2 "home" debates, and Team Thrawn had 4 home debates and only 2 away debates. To rectify this, I changed their "rematch" (all debate 6 debates are a rematch of debate 1 with the home/away aspect reversed) against Team Thrawn, to a home debate. This means that, though both teams now have a balanced home/away schedule, Sine Nomine is now the home team for both debates against Team Thrawn.

Rules:

The following are the most important procedural rules throughout the season. Other rules will be clarified as they are asked for, though most of them can be found in the initial DDODCL thread. Since this is the first and pilot season of the DDODCL, I imagine that moving forward some of the following will be altered to better adjust to the needs of this league. As rules are finalized and made official, they will be added to an official rules list and guide for the league to be added to the Read Me sticky.

1) The season officially starts on Tuesday. At that point, teams will have five days to start their debates. This means that the instigator (The away team) must have the debate challenge sent to the team on their schedule. If there are any complications, participants should contact me or Donald.Keller to detail the issue causing a potential delay.

2) DCL Debates should be 3 rounds, NO acceptance round, and one week voting period. Character length, posting times, and voting style should be determined by the teams involved (DCL participants may not vote on DCL debates). Regarding the NO acceptance round rule, this means that the debate will be instigated with the instigating teams opening arguments. It should be noted that the one week voting period does NOT extend the designated period of the debate (as it does in conventional tournaments). Meaning that once the final round is posted, the teams will be expected to move on to the next portion of their schedule, within the allotted time frame, assuming their opponent has also posted their final round from their previous debate. In other words, teams will have 5 days to instigate a debate, from the time that BOTH teams have completed their previous debate.

Playoffs:

The top 3 teams will make the playoffs. The top 3 teams are determined by overall win-loss record. Tie breakers will be based on head to head record, home record, and record against common opponents, with other tie breaker determinations to be made if necessary.

The top playoff team will get a bye and home debate advantage in the Championship Debate. The other two teams will debate each other in the first round, with home advantage to be determined by the team with the better record or tie breaker if applicable.
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4/9/2016 12:04:54 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
Suggestions to teams:

Even at only 6 debates in the regular season, this should prove to be a lengthy and grueling undertaking with some fairly stressful time markers to comply with. Participants are strongly recommend to confer with their teammates on a regular basis to determine and adjust their strategic approach to the season. How teams approach which teams member's account to use, how to determine resolutions, and any other aspect of their team/schedule/structure methodology is entirely up to them, but it is worth keeping in mind that having a plan is likely going to determine the best path towards success.

Furthermore, knowing whom you are going to debate in the next portion of the schedule should prove advantageous to those thinking ahead. With multiple members on each team, there's no reason to wait until a current debate is over, to discuss debate specific determinations with the next team.

Since there is no restriction on starting the next debate before the current debate has been concluded, having a team member discuss the debate specifics, and have the debate instigated, before the clock even starts on beginning that debate, is a method that may prove invaluable in easing the time pressures involved.

While I have no idea what ultimately will and wont work, I can only speculate about particular strategic approaches that may incorporate the above. For instance, having a rotating method to determine which account to use for debates, then having the next member up contacting the team captain (or any of the other members of the team) to work out a resolution for the next debate and then starting that debate as soon as possible. It's worth mentioning that any account rotating method for each debate should not imply a lack of involvement for any teammate on any particular debate. In other words, while memberX may be the account used, the other 2 team members could still prove valuable for any debate. So while memberX may be responsible for posting the round, and may have the final call on what gets posted if teams take that approach, working together on formulating arguments and rebuttals can make all the difference in a tough debate.

Of course it's entirely up to each team how they approach those issues. I believe this particular aspect of the Debate.org Debate Champions League may be the most fascinating, and I look forward to hearing how each team handles these issues, and what strategy ultimately proves to be the most successful.

Questions/Comments:

If you have any questions you may post them here. You may also contact me, or the league co-commissioner Donald.Keller directly via PM.

It's worth keeping in mind that this is the first of what I hope are many seasons of the DDODCL, and there are many aspects of the league in its current form that will likely have to be adjusted. I believe the current structure and rules provide the best chances at success and interest, but without having viewed them in action yet, there's no way to know what the optimal settings are to this point. Hopefully as we progress we will easily determine what does and doesn't work, and adjust accordingly as we continue with future seasons of the DDODCL.

Good luck to all teams and participants, and have a great Debate.org Debate Champions League Season!
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4/9/2016 12:35:43 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/9/2016 12:04:54 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
You should probably post this link in the group PM with all participants so that they are aware that this is here because otherwise they might not see it.
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4/13/2016 2:12:31 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
The DDODCL officially starts today!

Teams now have 5 days to start their debates.

This means that you have until Sunday to agree to a debate resolution, with away teams (Nos, Thrawn, The AMs) sending the debate challenge to their opponents. On Sunday, if the debate challenge is not sent to your opponent, random resolutions (from former LD/PF topics) will be selected for you, and both teams will be given demerit points. These points (fewer is better) will be used as tie breakers for home field and playoff positions if necessary.

Remember: Debates are to be three rounds (your opening/challenge round will be your opening arguments), with a one week voting period. Character length and voting style can be decided by the teams.

Debate One match-ups are as follows:


Nos Autem Non @ Pugna Verborum
Team Thrawn @ Sine Nomine
The Airmax Multis @ iOS6
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4/17/2016 5:13:25 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/13/2016 4:50:07 PM, famousdebater wrote:
At 4/13/2016 2:12:31 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
Our debate is up: http://www.debate.org...

I appreciate that you guys started your debate so early.... though I should mention that you guys are the "home" team, meaning that your opponents are the "away" team, and are therefore required to send the debate challenge and have the downside of being the instigator and if they opt to do so as you have here, lose a round by not posting arguments. As the "home" team, you can certainly opt to take the disadvantage as you have done here in terms of total number of round to post arguments in (as you've waived the first round), but you are welcome to restart this debate (as long as it goes up by tomorrow) if you like.

In any case, it is up to you, though I think you've given up a scheduling advantage here by being the instigator (and voluntarily foregoing a round on top of that).

I just noticed that you mentioned this in your opening round: "This debate must be hosted by me since my opponent's team is at (@ as depited in airmax's thread) our team."

I think there is some confusion here. The "home team", is not the team "hosting the debate" as in sending the challenge (being the instigator), rather the home team is the "challenger", or rather NOT the instigator.

As the thread says:

"The use of "@" is to determine the "home" and "away" team. Teams at "home", are the debate challenger, while the away team (the first team listed - the team @ another team) is the debate instigator."

The easiest way to think of this is that the "home" team gets an advantage, and the instigator is at a disadvantage - and therefore the away team.

I apologize for the confusion, and I encourage you to restart the debate as soon as possible.

If you do restart the debate, encourage your opponents to post all of the rules and stuff in a misc thread, link that thread, and use all the rest of the characters on their opening arguments.
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4/17/2016 5:25:27 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
Perhaps the easiest way for participants to make sense of the home/away dynamic and remember how it works it is with the example of baseball. In baseball, (as with the DDODCL) the away team bats first.
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5/4/2016 8:41:38 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/9/2016 12:03:42 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Here's our debate: http://www.debate.org... I forget to give the new link since we reversed it so that our opponents were instigating.

Also, just for clarification, since we didn't post acceptance do you want me to waive the final round?
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5/4/2016 10:52:28 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/4/2016 8:41:38 PM, famousdebater wrote:
At 4/9/2016 12:03:42 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Here's our debate: http://www.debate.org... I forget to give the new link since we reversed it so that our opponents were instigating.

Also, just for clarification, since we didn't post acceptance do you want me to waive the final round?

The instigator should have posted his first round in R1. There aren't supposed to be acceptance rounds. While waiving the last round might create the appearance of you instigating, my suggested answer would be no... Because you aren't instigating. Away team had to post their round first, and you aren't away team, so reworking the set up to put you in away team's place would technically violate the schedule. The instigators had to post their arguments, and if they didn't, they'll have to compensate with extra good rounds.

But like I said, it's my suggested answer. If you want to waive your round to 'fix' the problem, it's not technically against the rules. Just make sure to ask Airmax first (which you kinda already did.)
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5/4/2016 11:07:21 PM
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Sixth Order of the Swag (Tejrectics) and the Airmax Multi's (Whiteflame) are the only teams who have yet to post their debate. So I'll spam one more time. After that... well... Can only wait so long.
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5/4/2016 11:26:31 PM
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At 5/4/2016 11:25:26 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 5/4/2016 11:07:21 PM, donald.keller wrote:
We started.
http://www.debate.org...

Great :) Then everyone has started.
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5/7/2016 12:05:06 AM
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Our debate has finished. Please vote! Thanks!

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5/10/2016 11:48:23 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/7/2016 12:05:06 AM, bsh1 wrote:
Our debate has finished. Please vote! Thanks!

http://www.debate.org...

I'll have this debate voted on. Thanks for your enthusiasm for the DDODCL :D Can always rely on you and TUF to put forth effort to making the site better.
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5/22/2016 9:36:50 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 9:35:51 PM, SolonKR wrote:
Forgot to mention our debate is done.
http://www.debate.org...
Pugna Verborum, send us a PM <3

I'm on my phone. I can send the PM but it'd be tomorrow. If you can, could you send the PM?
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6/5/2016 4:16:42 AM
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Pugna Verborum v iOS6
Abortion should be illegal: http://www.debate.org...

I have confirmation that the other teams are working out their resolutions.
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6/18/2016 3:06:54 PM
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Pugna Verborum @ iOS6

http://www.debate.org...
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7/14/2016 10:37:19 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
Bumping for reference purposes. Could we get a current report of the team standings?
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7/31/2016 9:36:16 PM
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At 7/14/2016 10:37:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Bumping for reference purposes. Could we get a current report of the team standings?
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8/3/2016 5:10:44 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Team Results

(feel free to make corrections)

Nos Autem Non

Debates: 1
Wins: 0
Losses: 1
Ties: 0

iOS 6

Debates: 2
Wins: 2
Losses: 0
Ties: 0

The Airmax Multis

Debates: 2
Wins: 0
Losses: 2
Ties: 0

Team Thrawn

Debates: 2
Wins: 2
Losses: 0
Ties: 0

Pugna Verborum

Debates: 1
Wins: 1
Losses: 1
Ties: 0

Sine Nomine

Debates: 1
Wins: 0
Losses: 1
Ties: 0

Current Standings

(W = +1, T = 0, L = -1)

1. iOS 6: 2 pts.
1. Team Thrawn: 2 pts.
3. Pugna Verborum: 0 pts.
4. Sine Nomine: -1 pt.
4. Nos Autem Non: -1 pt.
6. Airmax Multies: -2 pts.
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8/3/2016 5:19:10 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Team Results

(feel free to make corrections)

Nos Autem Non

Debates: 2
Wins: 1
Losses: 1
Ties: 0

iOS 6

Debates: 2
Wins: 2
Losses: 0
Ties: 0

The Airmax Multis

Debates: 2
Wins: 0
Losses: 2
Ties: 0

Team Thrawn

Debates: 2
Wins: 2
Losses: 0
Ties: 0

Pugna Verborum

Debates: 1
Wins: 1
Losses: 1
Ties: 0

Sine Nomine

Debates: 2
Wins: 0
Losses: 2
Ties: 0

Current Standings

(W = +1, T = 0, L = -1)

1. iOS 6: 2 pts.
1. Team Thrawn: 2 pts.
3. Pugna Verborum: 0 pts.
3. Nos Autem Non: 0 pts.
5. Sine Nomine: -2 pts.
5. Airmax Multies: -2 pts.
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8/3/2016 5:19:23 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Updated to reflect a correction...
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9/15/2016 12:51:07 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
Team Results

1. Not all results reflected in this tally are finalized (some are subject to change)
2. Please feel free to make correction to this information


Nos Autem Non

Debates: 2
Wins: 1
Losses: 1
Ties: 0

iOS 6

Debates: 2
Wins: 2
Losses: 0
Ties: 0

The Airmax Multis

Debates: 3
Wins: 1
Losses: 2
Ties: 0

Team Thrawn

Debates: 3
Wins: 3
Losses: 0
Ties: 0

Pugna Verborum

Debates: 3
Wins: 1
Losses: 2
Ties: 0

Sine Nomine

Debates: 3
Wins: 0
Losses: 3
Ties: 0

Current Standings

(W = +1, T = 0, L = -1)

1. Team Thrawn: 3 pts.
2. iOS 6: 2 pts.
3. Nos Autem Non: 0 pts.
4. Pugna Verborum: -1 pts.
4. Airmax Multies: -1 pts.
5. Sine Nomine: -3 pts.
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