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5/5/2016 1:18:18 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
The DDO elite's central government has expanded. It has grown. It can be termed as "big government," and, arguably, socialism.

As the government expands, civil liberties inevitably retreat. That is what we, as a community, have been facing.

When I first joined, people frequently participated in tournaments. Now, with "official" tournaments given a priority, private tournaments have been crowded out. Fewer people are interested in private tournaments and fewer people make them. This is the new DDO--and the new DDO is in crisis.

Voters used to vote freely and frequently. Now, with onerous rules and regulations, few voters vote. Only a select few now vote, and while they claim to do so "objectively," limiting the number of people--and, therefore, the diversity of opinion--of voters, if anything, will inevitably make voting results more biased, not less.

As the DDO government has expanded, the DDO community has shrunk. That is why we need new leadership. We need to shrink the size of the DDO government. We need to defeat the DDO elite.

How do we do this? By giving the power back to the forums.

(1) Undo the "official" tournament system

Official tournaments are well-intentioned failures. The unintended consequence of them is to reduce private tournaments. Give the power back to the forums, to the people! Who knows best when to hold a tournament other than the people themselves? There is a knowledge problem, and DDO elite bureaucrats do not have the capability--let alone the willingness--to properly time and orchestrate tournaments! Down with DDO big government!

(2) Reduce voting regulations

Allow the people to rise! Give debaters the option to waive right to voter moderation. This is not accomplished by the no rfd button. They may want some voters to give short constructive criticisms or, if they wish, long votes, but there should be an option to opt-out of the current system. Mandating tough voting standards has caused many--including myself--to stop voting. I do not want to write a magnum opus for any debate. Ever! Allow the people to choose free for alls! We should also prohibit people from reporting vote bombs unless they are one of the hosts of the debate. If neither of the hosts sees a problem with the vote, we don't need some feel-good big government DDO progressive to interfere! Let the owners of the debate choose whether or not the vote is bad, not feel-good outsiders!

Even for overall debates we need to change our culture. There used to be a time where, even for the "best" debates, a 500-1000 character RFD was sufficient. Now I have to write Das Kapital for each round. We need to change as a culture and become accepting of lower vote requirements.

"Wait, isn't that arbitrary?"

Isn't the current system arbitrary, silly big-government elite stooge? Who decides whether or not someone has sufficiently explained their vote? The DDO elite, that's who. They are just as arbitrary as any other system, if not more so. Lessen voting standards to unleash a wave of innovation and growth! I mean, voting participation!

(3) Bring back trials!

Sure, some members don't deserve trials. An obvious multi-account, a 2 day old noob who has sent death threats and made fun of the DDO elite president's small stature, people like that do not need a trial. But a well known member--as I was (or Izbo was) at the time of our trials--deserves to be tried. Every person has a right to be proven guilty!

Look, imagine if we didn't have the trial system when I was around. I would have been banned and you all would be worse off because of it! I am BEST NA 360NoScoper!

Trials are fun, trials cause drama--and they shrink the size of the DDO government! GIVE POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

(4) Ban 16kadams for at least 24 hours

#FeelTheBan

== Conclusion ==

Vote for I, Austin Petersen--I mean, 16kadams--for site president. We need less government, not more. Liberate the people; end the DDO elite!
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5/5/2016 1:20:08 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
The trend of 16k winning WILL NOT BEND!
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5/5/2016 1:22:08 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
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5/5/2016 1:43:14 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/5/2016 1:18:18 AM, 16kadams wrote:
The DDO elite's central government has expanded. It has grown. It can be termed as "big government," and, arguably, socialism.

As the government expands, civil liberties inevitably retreat. That is what we, as a community, have been facing.

When I first joined, people frequently participated in tournaments. Now, with "official" tournaments given a priority, private tournaments have been crowded out. Fewer people are interested in private tournaments and fewer people make them. This is the new DDO--and the new DDO is in crisis.

Voters used to vote freely and frequently. Now, with onerous rules and regulations, few voters vote. Only a select few now vote, and while they claim to do so "objectively," limiting the number of people--and, therefore, the diversity of opinion--of voters, if anything, will inevitably make voting results more biased, not less.

As the DDO government has expanded, the DDO community has shrunk. That is why we need new leadership. We need to shrink the size of the DDO government. We need to defeat the DDO elite.

How do we do this? By giving the power back to the forums.

(1) Undo the "official" tournament system

Official tournaments are well-intentioned failures. The unintended consequence of them is to reduce private tournaments. Give the power back to the forums, to the people! Who knows best when to hold a tournament other than the people themselves? There is a knowledge problem, and DDO elite bureaucrats do not have the capability--let alone the willingness--to properly time and orchestrate tournaments! Down with DDO big government!

(2) Reduce voting regulations

Allow the people to rise! Give debaters the option to waive right to voter moderation. This is not accomplished by the no rfd button. They may want some voters to give short constructive criticisms or, if they wish, long votes, but there should be an option to opt-out of the current system. Mandating tough voting standards has caused many--including myself--to stop voting. I do not want to write a magnum opus for any debate. Ever! Allow the people to choose free for alls! We should also prohibit people from reporting vote bombs unless they are one of the hosts of the debate. If neither of the hosts sees a problem with the vote, we don't need some feel-good big government DDO progressive to interfere! Let the owners of the debate choose whether or not the vote is bad, not feel-good outsiders!
I agree debaters should have this option available, but with Juggle's non involvement, it seems impossible to change the for mat of the debates.

Could an immediate solution be for the instigator of a debate to post in round one, not to have votes moderated, that could be agreed in round 1 by the contender as well? Also instruct all voters to begin their RFD with *no voting moderation needed, refer to round 1 of the debate both pro and con agreed* Would this be enough to curb moderation? Power to the people!

For debaters who want sufficient RFD's according to the "Vote Moderation Policy Guide" [http://www.debate.org...], they wouldn't need to note anything in round 1. The link is to a revised voting guide which is much more clear and concise than any other voting guide I read thus far, and I really think if this revised guide was read by members, voting would be more inviting.

Even for overall debates we need to change our culture. There used to be a time where, even for the "best" debates, a 500-1000 character RFD was sufficient. Now I have to write Das Kapital for each round. We need to change as a culture and become accepting of lower vote requirements.
The instigator decides the character limit.

"Wait, isn't that arbitrary?"

Isn't the current system arbitrary, silly big-government elite stooge? Who decides whether or not someone has sufficiently explained their vote? The DDO elite, that's who. They are just as arbitrary as any other system, if not more so. Lessen voting standards to unleash a wave of innovation and growth! I mean, voting participation!
I like the voting standards - now that there is a clear guide, but I do think debaters should be able to opt for less stringent voting requirements on their debates if they chose to.

(3) Bring back trials!

Sure, some members don't deserve trials. An obvious multi-account, a 2 day old noob who has sent death threats and made fun of the DDO elite president's small stature, people like that do not need a trial. But a well known member--as I was (or Izbo was) at the time of our trials--deserves to be tried. Every person has a right to be proven guilty!

Look, imagine if we didn't have the trial system when I was around. I would have been banned and you all would be worse off because of it! I am BEST NA 360NoScoper!

Trials are fun, trials cause drama--and they shrink the size of the DDO government! GIVE POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

(4) Ban 16kadams for at least 24 hours

#FeelTheBan

== Conclusion ==

Vote for I, Austin Petersen--I mean, 16kadams--for site president. We need less government, not more. Liberate the people; end the DDO elite!
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5/5/2016 1:57:04 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/5/2016 1:43:14 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 5/5/2016 1:18:18 AM, 16kadams wrote:
The DDO elite's central government has expanded. It has grown. It can be termed as "big government," and, arguably, socialism.

As the government expands, civil liberties inevitably retreat. That is what we, as a community, have been facing.

When I first joined, people frequently participated in tournaments. Now, with "official" tournaments given a priority, private tournaments have been crowded out. Fewer people are interested in private tournaments and fewer people make them. This is the new DDO--and the new DDO is in crisis.

Voters used to vote freely and frequently. Now, with onerous rules and regulations, few voters vote. Only a select few now vote, and while they claim to do so "objectively," limiting the number of people--and, therefore, the diversity of opinion--of voters, if anything, will inevitably make voting results more biased, not less.

As the DDO government has expanded, the DDO community has shrunk. That is why we need new leadership. We need to shrink the size of the DDO government. We need to defeat the DDO elite.

How do we do this? By giving the power back to the forums.

(1) Undo the "official" tournament system

Official tournaments are well-intentioned failures. The unintended consequence of them is to reduce private tournaments. Give the power back to the forums, to the people! Who knows best when to hold a tournament other than the people themselves? There is a knowledge problem, and DDO elite bureaucrats do not have the capability--let alone the willingness--to properly time and orchestrate tournaments! Down with DDO big government!

(2) Reduce voting regulations

Allow the people to rise! Give debaters the option to waive right to voter moderation. This is not accomplished by the no rfd button. They may want some voters to give short constructive criticisms or, if they wish, long votes, but there should be an option to opt-out of the current system. Mandating tough voting standards has caused many--including myself--to stop voting. I do not want to write a magnum opus for any debate. Ever! Allow the people to choose free for alls! We should also prohibit people from reporting vote bombs unless they are one of the hosts of the debate. If neither of the hosts sees a problem with the vote, we don't need some feel-good big government DDO progressive to interfere! Let the owners of the debate choose whether or not the vote is bad, not feel-good outsiders!
I agree debaters should have this option available, but with Juggle's non involvement, it seems impossible to change the for mat of the debates.

Could an immediate solution be for the instigator of a debate to post in round one, not to have votes moderated, that could be agreed in round 1 by the contender as well? Also instruct all voters to begin their RFD with *no voting moderation needed, refer to round 1 of the debate both pro and con agreed* Would this be enough to curb moderation? Power to the people!

Yes, but Juggle will respond. They are separated from our universe controlled from the elite, that is why they refuse to respond. Once the elite are deposed, we will have passed the test and they will recognize our power!!!!!!

For debaters who want sufficient RFD's according to the "Vote Moderation Policy Guide" [http://www.debate.org...], they wouldn't need to note anything in round 1. The link is to a revised voting guide which is much more clear and concise than any other voting guide I read thus far, and I really think if this revised guide was read by members, voting would be more inviting.


It is still cancerous. DDO elite made that thread and has convinced you it is good. Let the market work! #FeelTheBan

Even for overall debates we need to change our culture. There used to be a time where, even for the "best" debates, a 500-1000 character RFD was sufficient. Now I have to write Das Kapital for each round. We need to change as a culture and become accepting of lower vote requirements.
The instigator decides the character limit.

"Wait, isn't that arbitrary?"

Isn't the current system arbitrary, silly big-government elite stooge? Who decides whether or not someone has sufficiently explained their vote? The DDO elite, that's who. They are just as arbitrary as any other system, if not more so. Lessen voting standards to unleash a wave of innovation and growth! I mean, voting participation!
I like the voting standards - now that there is a clear guide, but I do think debaters should be able to opt for less stringent voting requirements on their debates if they chose to.

(3) Bring back trials!

Sure, some members don't deserve trials. An obvious multi-account, a 2 day old noob who has sent death threats and made fun of the DDO elite president's small stature, people like that do not need a trial. But a well known member--as I was (or Izbo was) at the time of our trials--deserves to be tried. Every person has a right to be proven guilty!

Look, imagine if we didn't have the trial system when I was around. I would have been banned and you all would be worse off because of it! I am BEST NA 360NoScoper!

Trials are fun, trials cause drama--and they shrink the size of the DDO government! GIVE POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

(4) Ban 16kadams for at least 24 hours

#FeelTheBan

== Conclusion ==

Vote for I, Austin Petersen--I mean, 16kadams--for site president. We need less government, not more. Liberate the people; end the DDO elite!
https://www.youtube.com...
https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
"A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross