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5/17/2016 6:50:55 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
I've gotten some flack from a few people like Rosalie, Famous, and 16K for being in the face when I'm behind DK. They're reason for why people shouldn't support me is that I'm behind. Frankly, that's utterly ridiculous and follows no discernible logic.

This is mostly a message to pro-Presidency voters.

1. Read the platforms - don't rely on a single poll

Polls vary. I've had people tell me their private findings were that I'm closer to DK than a few people may want to admit. Cole's first poll had me way ahead of DK. Cole's second poll has me way behind. TBR's poll has me way behind, but I can honestly count the number of people who privately or publicly say they support me and it comes to a higher number.

What I've gotten out of my intersections with people is that they did not read my platform (and sometimes not even the other ones), but "they'll probably vote DK". Some people have said they'll wait to commit until the Presidential debate.

2. The election isn't tomorrow

The election is in two months. If DK's camp cannot deal with someone disrupting his entitlement to the Presidency, then they cannot be trusted to deal with the flak an administration and its supporters will get in six months.

3. Intellectual honesty

If you want to kill my campaign, kill the platform - the way of "he can't win" is blind and stupid. If you can't address raise questions to my platform, then I don't see an argument for me to drop out.

DK announced months ago. I announced a week and a half ago. Even if I'm way behind - which I don't really think is the case - ask yourself whether announcing first justifiably establishes the position as the first choice.
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5/17/2016 6:51:26 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
"being in the race" auto corrected to "being in the face".
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5/17/2016 6:54:19 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
Holy sh*t, DK is Hillary Clinton, 1harder is Bernie, which can only mean im fuckin Trump

Awesome ;D
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5/17/2016 6:55:55 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 6:54:19 PM, imabench wrote:
Holy sh*t, DK is Hillary Clinton, 1harder is Bernie, which can only mean im fuckin Trump

Awesome ;D

I will make my thread on breaking up the control over the site's content by the top tenth of one percent tomorrow.
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5/17/2016 6:57:06 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 6:55:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:54:19 PM, imabench wrote:
Holy sh*t, DK is Hillary Clinton, 1harder is Bernie, which can only mean im fuckin Trump

Awesome ;D

I will make my thread on breaking up the control over the site's content by the top tenth of one percent tomorrow.

Sounds good. Should I make a thread claiming that Religious forum users are rapists the day before, or the day after?
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5/17/2016 6:57:52 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 6:57:06 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:55:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:54:19 PM, imabench wrote:
Holy sh*t, DK is Hillary Clinton, 1harder is Bernie, which can only mean im fuckin Trump

Awesome ;D

I will make my thread on breaking up the control over the site's content by the top tenth of one percent tomorrow.

Sounds good. Should I make a thread claiming that Religious forum users are rapists the day before, or the day after?

You should make one every day.
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5/17/2016 6:59:40 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 6:50:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I've gotten some flack from a few people like Rosalie, Famous, and 16K for being in the face when I'm behind DK. They're reason for why people shouldn't support me is that I'm behind. Frankly, that's utterly ridiculous and follows no discernible logic.

Man, you have a thing for making "faulty accusations". I'm not supporting you because you're just behind, but there are many other reasons why I wouldn't support you, which I expressed to you in a pm. So, this is very poor conduct in you lying about why I won't support you. If you need me to, I can express why I don't support you, here.

This is mostly a message to pro-Presidency voters.

1. Read the platforms - don't rely on a single poll

Polls vary. I've had people tell me their private findings were that I'm closer to DK than a few people may want to admit. Cole's first poll had me way ahead of DK. Cole's second poll has me way behind. TBR's poll has me way behind, but I can honestly count the number of people who privately or publicly say they support me and it comes to a higher number.

What I've gotten out of my intersections with people is that they did not read my platform (and sometimes not even the other ones), but "they'll probably vote DK". Some people have said they'll wait to commit until the Presidential debate.

2. The election isn't tomorrow

The election is in two months. If DK's camp cannot deal with someone disrupting his entitlement to the Presidency, then they cannot be trusted to deal with the flak an administration and its supporters will get in six months.

3. Intellectual honesty

If you want to kill my campaign, kill the platform - the way of "he can't win" is blind and stupid. If you can't address raise questions to my platform, then I don't see an argument for me to drop out.

DK announced months ago. I announced a week and a half ago. Even if I'm way behind - which I don't really think is the case - ask yourself whether announcing first justifiably establishes the position as the first choice.
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5/17/2016 7:00:58 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 6:59:40 PM, Rosalie wrote:

this is very poor conduct

Meanwhile 4 minutes earlier: http://www.debate.org...
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5/17/2016 7:03:42 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 6:59:40 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:50:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I've gotten some flack from a few people like Rosalie, Famous, and 16K for being in the face when I'm behind DK. They're reason for why people shouldn't support me is that I'm behind. Frankly, that's utterly ridiculous and follows no discernible logic.

Man, you have a thing for making "faulty accusations". I'm not supporting you because you're just behind, but there are many other reasons why I wouldn't support you, which I expressed to you in a pm. So, this is very poor conduct in you lying about why I won't support you. If you need me to, I can express why I don't support you, here.

So quick to the accusations? I just called you out for not responding substantively - that was the point of this thread. If all you're going to do is dismiss the platform, then you're not being substantive.

Really, what sparked this was Famous saying Bsh should have endorsed DK because I'm "way behind".
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5/17/2016 7:04:07 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 7:00:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:59:40 PM, Rosalie wrote:

this is very poor conduct

Meanwhile 4 minutes earlier: http://www.debate.org...

So?

Unlike 1harder, when I was running, I was telling the truth about things. 1harder is bluntly making out-right lies, and accusations, because he knows I know the truth about his campaign, and endorsement from bsh1.
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5/17/2016 7:05:44 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 7:04:07 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 5/17/2016 7:00:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:59:40 PM, Rosalie wrote:

this is very poor conduct

Meanwhile 4 minutes earlier: http://www.debate.org...

So?

Unlike 1harder, when I was running, I was telling the truth about things. 1harder is bluntly making out-right lies, and accusations, because he knows I know the truth about his campaign, and endorsement from bsh1.

Because he's my friend, he would say Bench has a less destructive platform than DK?
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5/17/2016 7:07:16 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 7:05:44 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/17/2016 7:04:07 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 5/17/2016 7:00:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:59:40 PM, Rosalie wrote:

this is very poor conduct

Meanwhile 4 minutes earlier: http://www.debate.org...

So?

Unlike 1harder, when I was running, I was telling the truth about things. 1harder is bluntly making out-right lies, and accusations, because he knows I know the truth about his campaign, and endorsement from bsh1.

Because he's my friend, he would say Bench has a less destructive platform than DK?

There is more to it....and you know it.
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5/17/2016 7:07:54 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 7:00:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:59:40 PM, Rosalie wrote:

this is very poor conduct

Meanwhile 4 minutes earlier: http://www.debate.org...

This is what people like Rosalie do. Her purpose here isn't to attack my campaign or anything I said in this thread, it's to get under my skin. I've dealt with much worse than her, though, even today. I'll respond, but I'm rather unaffected, personally. My reason for responding, at this point, is to make sure nobody actually falls for her act.
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5/17/2016 7:08:12 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 7:07:16 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 5/17/2016 7:05:44 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/17/2016 7:04:07 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 5/17/2016 7:00:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:59:40 PM, Rosalie wrote:

this is very poor conduct

Meanwhile 4 minutes earlier: http://www.debate.org...

So?

Unlike 1harder, when I was running, I was telling the truth about things. 1harder is bluntly making out-right lies, and accusations, because he knows I know the truth about his campaign, and endorsement from bsh1.

Because he's my friend, he would say Bench has a less destructive platform than DK?

There is more to it....and you know it.

Sure there is.
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5/17/2016 7:13:08 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 7:07:54 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/17/2016 7:00:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:59:40 PM, Rosalie wrote:

this is very poor conduct

Meanwhile 4 minutes earlier: http://www.debate.org...

This is what people like Rosalie do. Her purpose here isn't to attack my campaign or anything I said in this thread, it's to get under my skin. I've dealt with much worse than her, though, even today. I'll respond, but I'm rather unaffected, personally. My reason for responding, at this point, is to make sure nobody actually falls for her act.

So....expressing by opinion is all an act? How does that make sense?

Some wrd if advice, if you're running don't make false accusations on people just because they don't support you.

I'm done.
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5/17/2016 7:14:38 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 7:13:08 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 5/17/2016 7:07:54 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/17/2016 7:00:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:59:40 PM, Rosalie wrote:

this is very poor conduct

Meanwhile 4 minutes earlier: http://www.debate.org...

This is what people like Rosalie do. Her purpose here isn't to attack my campaign or anything I said in this thread, it's to get under my skin. I've dealt with much worse than her, though, even today. I'll respond, but I'm rather unaffected, personally. My reason for responding, at this point, is to make sure nobody actually falls for her act.

So....expressing by opinion is all an act? How does that make sense?

Some wrd if advice, if you're running don't make false accusations on people just because they don't support you.

I'm done.

You've told me you were done several times, but you've always come back for more, whether publicly or privately. Keep trying, but be careful about how far you go.
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5/17/2016 7:21:45 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 6:54:19 PM, imabench wrote:
Holy sh*t, DK is Hillary Clinton, 1harder is Bernie, which can only mean im fuckin Trump

Awesome ;D

No way. Your policies are the exact opposite of our Lord's. In the words of one of many "he's a fascist".
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5/17/2016 8:24:44 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 7:13:08 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 5/17/2016 7:07:54 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/17/2016 7:00:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:59:40 PM, Rosalie wrote:

this is very poor conduct

Meanwhile 4 minutes earlier: http://www.debate.org...

This is what people like Rosalie do. Her purpose here isn't to attack my campaign or anything I said in this thread, it's to get under my skin. I've dealt with much worse than her, though, even today. I'll respond, but I'm rather unaffected, personally. My reason for responding, at this point, is to make sure nobody actually falls for her act.

So....expressing by opinion is all an act? How does that make sense?

Some wrd if advice, if you're running, don't make false accusations on people just because they don't support you.

Oh the irony XD
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5/17/2016 8:49:31 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 6:50:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:

Very good post.

Polls vary. I've had people tell me their private findings were that I'm closer to DK than a few people may want to admit. Cole's first poll had me way ahead of DK. Cole's second poll has me way behind. TBR's poll has me way behind, but I can honestly count the number of people who privately or publicly say they support me and it comes to a higher number.

I can vouch for this. I think you had a surplus in the first iteration of the poll because your campaign just opened up. People were excited to vote for you. After a week, I reset the votes, and now the results are much different. It's entirely subjective to timing, people's willingness to vote, and the availability/advertisement of the poll.
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5/17/2016 9:01:37 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 8:49:31 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:50:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:

Very good post.

Thanks.
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5/17/2016 9:08:02 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 9:01:37 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/17/2016 8:49:31 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:50:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:

Very good post.

Thanks.

No problem. :)
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5/17/2016 10:55:26 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 6:50:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I've gotten some flack from a few people like Rosalie, Famous, and 16K for being in the face when I'm behind DK. They're reason for why people shouldn't support me is that I'm behind. Frankly, that's utterly ridiculous and follows no discernible logic.

This is mostly a message to pro-Presidency voters.

1. Read the platforms - don't rely on a single poll

Polls vary. I've had people tell me their private findings were that I'm closer to DK than a few people may want to admit. Cole's first poll had me way ahead of DK. Cole's second poll has me way behind. TBR's poll has me way behind, but I can honestly count the number of people who privately or publicly say they support me and it comes to a higher number.

What I've gotten out of my intersections with people is that they did not read my platform (and sometimes not even the other ones), but "they'll probably vote DK". Some people have said they'll wait to commit until the Presidential debate.

2. The election isn't tomorrow

The election is in two months. If DK's camp cannot deal with someone disrupting his entitlement to the Presidency, then they cannot be trusted to deal with the flak an administration and its supporters will get in six months.

3. Intellectual honesty

If you want to kill my campaign, kill the platform - the way of "he can't win" is blind and stupid. If you can't address raise questions to my platform, then I don't see an argument for me to drop out.

DK announced months ago. I announced a week and a half ago. Even if I'm way behind - which I don't really think is the case - ask yourself whether announcing first justifiably establishes the position as the first choice.

They are starting to work CREEP. Don't let anyone push you based on anything, including my poll. DK support is strong, but seems vertical.
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5/17/2016 10:57:28 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 10:55:26 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:50:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
They are starting to work CREEP. Don't let anyone push you based on anything, including my poll. DK support is strong, but seems vertical.

So you're seeing the same BS from them I do? Good to know.
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5/17/2016 11:18:33 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 7:03:42 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:59:40 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:50:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I've gotten some flack from a few people like Rosalie, Famous, and 16K for being in the face when I'm behind DK. They're reason for why people shouldn't support me is that I'm behind. Frankly, that's utterly ridiculous and follows no discernible logic.

Man, you have a thing for making "faulty accusations". I'm not supporting you because you're just behind, but there are many other reasons why I wouldn't support you, which I expressed to you in a pm. So, this is very poor conduct in you lying about why I won't support you. If you need me to, I can express why I don't support you, here.

So quick to the accusations? I just called you out for not responding substantively - that was the point of this thread. If all you're going to do is dismiss the platform, then you're not being substantive.

Really, what sparked this was Famous saying Bsh should have endorsed DK because I'm "way behind".

I did say that. But that isn't the sole reason as to why people shouldn't vote for you. I merely put the idea forward as I wanted to know Bsh's opinion on that particlular point. Not because I thought that it was the only reason to not vote for you. Since Bsh expressed assign towards the presidency I was merely curious on his thoughts regarding the splitting of votes argument. This is another thing that you've incorrectly inferred from my writing. Stop making assumptions about what I say. I it isn't clear then ask - don't assume.
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5/17/2016 11:21:24 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 10:57:28 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/17/2016 10:55:26 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:50:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
They are starting to work CREEP. Don't let anyone push you based on anything, including my poll. DK support is strong, but seems vertical.

So you're seeing the same BS from them I do? Good to know.

The way that you've phrased the OP, I'm not surprised. It's blatantly false and untrue in regards to what others have said. You are lying about me and are misinterpreting my quotes and using it to your advantage.
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5/17/2016 11:23:02 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 10:57:28 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/17/2016 10:55:26 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:50:55 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
They are starting to work CREEP. Don't let anyone push you based on anything, including my poll. DK support is strong, but seems vertical.

So you're seeing the same BS from them I do? Good to know.

There is something afoot with Seventh/Rosalie/DK. Wait for it.
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5/18/2016 1:06:27 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 7:00:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/17/2016 6:59:40 PM, Rosalie wrote:

this is very poor conduct

Meanwhile 4 minutes earlier: http://www.debate.org...

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5/18/2016 11:59:41 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/17/2016 6:54:19 PM, imabench wrote:
Holy sh*t, DK is Hillary Clinton, 1harder is Bernie, which can only mean im fuckin Trump

Awesome ;D

I didn't want to be the one to tell you that. I at one point realized I was Kasich and I threw up in my mouth.
TheGreatAndPowerful
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5/18/2016 12:41:58 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
This is confusing. The title of this post is how NOT to vote. Then you provide a list of ways of how TO vote.

Which is it?
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5/18/2016 3:20:09 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/18/2016 12:41:58 PM, TheGreatAndPowerful wrote:
This is confusing. The title of this post is how NOT to vote. Then you provide a list of ways of how TO vote.

Which is it?

Well, I was annoyed and was chastising a few members and their proposed reasons for supporting their candidates. That was why I made the thread...so it started with me taking shots at what I view as how not to vote, and then giving advice on how to properly do so.

So...both, I guess.
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