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Petition: Quote in Debates

Sieben
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12/11/2010 6:15:48 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
So many debates are giants walls of text. People don't label their arguments and it makes it hard to follow.

They should be able to quote their opponent at no penalty to character space. This would make debates more like the forums, where subsequent "rounds" simply reply directly under the opponent's own argument.

From a "pure debating" standpoint this is just a crutch for noobs who can't flow. But given that this site is pretty informal, the option to quote might be popular. It would make debates between these giant TL;DR posters easier to read.
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http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...
ChristianM
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12/11/2010 6:22:57 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2010 6:15:48 AM, Sieben wrote:
So many debates are giants walls of text. People don't label their arguments and it makes it hard to follow.

They should be able to quote their opponent at no penalty to character space. This would make debates more like the forums, where subsequent "rounds" simply reply directly under the opponent's own argument.

From a "pure debating" standpoint this is just a crutch for noobs who can't flow. But given that this site is pretty informal, the option to quote might be popular. It would make debates between these giant TL;DR posters easier to read.

STFU WITH THE GOD DAMN PETITIONS!! Since when has a stupid strongly worded letter ever worked!!!???

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innomen
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12/11/2010 7:08:34 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2010 6:22:57 AM, usafkid1121 wrote:
At 12/11/2010 6:15:48 AM, Sieben wrote:
So many debates are giants walls of text. People don't label their arguments and it makes it hard to follow.

They should be able to quote their opponent at no penalty to character space. This would make debates more like the forums, where subsequent "rounds" simply reply directly under the opponent's own argument.

From a "pure debating" standpoint this is just a crutch for noobs who can't flow. But given that this site is pretty informal, the option to quote might be popular. It would make debates between these giant TL;DR posters easier to read.

STFU WITH THE GOD DAMN PETITIONS!! Since when has a stupid strongly worded letter ever worked!!!???

Dear Hitler,

This is Winston Churchill. What you are doing is very very wrong. You need to stop.

Much love from the Misses,
Churchy-poo

"Churchy-poo"? - that was funny.

To the OP. Actually some of these debaters need to learn quality is more powerful than sheer quantity. To simply reference a point made by an opponent, or to extract a few of their words if they falter, should suffice. Those tl;dr debates are the ones that are either voted on without reading much of, or not voted on at all.
Sieben
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12/11/2010 9:08:28 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I agree... but like, theLwerd said it would be a good idea here http://www.debate.org...

They're both skilled debaters, but for soooome reason they can't use tags, and they write tl;dr paragraphs.

The quoting feature would make debates more accessible to readers.
Things that are so interesting:

http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...
innomen
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12/11/2010 9:25:13 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2010 9:08:28 AM, Sieben wrote:
I agree... but like, theLwerd said it would be a good idea here http://www.debate.org...

They're both skilled debaters, but for soooome reason they can't use tags, and they write tl;dr paragraphs.

The quoting feature would make debates more accessible to readers.

Yeah, they're good debaters, but they also tend to over kill in verbiage. Honestly, i might just be lazy, but if i see a debate that is only a little bit interesting to me, and is way too long in its verbiage, no matter what accommodations are made, i probably won't bother with it.
Freeman
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12/11/2010 2:30:03 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2010 6:15:48 AM, Sieben wrote:
So many debates are giants walls of text. People don't label their arguments and it makes it hard to follow.

They should be able to quote their opponent at no penalty to character space. This would make debates more like the forums, where subsequent "rounds" simply reply directly under the opponent's own argument.

I try to treat debates like a conversation to a certain extent. It would be kind of weird if you were arguing with someone and they constantly quoted long passages of your words back to you verbatim. Being able to paraphrase what your opponent says and also being able to clarify their position is an important skill.
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Korashk
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12/11/2010 3:14:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
This should be in the "site suggestions" thread, it's a freaking good idea.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown