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TUF
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6/21/2016 7:21:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I would like to shamelessly advertise a debate here about the effects of vote moderation on Debate.org. This is an issue that is discussed quite often in the forums, in generally a negative light. As someone who has personally seen voting bettered in the past (in my opinion this directly correlates with the enforcement of moderation), I would like to see if anyone would like to defend "The old voting" on DDO vs "The new voting".

http://www.debate.org...

The reason I am making a thread about this, is because this is a site specific topic. I don't know how many active forum members browse the challenge period section anymore, but this debate has a narrowed topic field, and I figure a vocal current member may find interest in this debate where they otherwise might not have seen it.

If you want to debate, but do not meet the Elo requirement, let me know here and I will look over your past debates before changing the acceptance standards.

I hope this debate will lead to some beneficial discussion on site moderation policies.
TheGreatAndPowerful
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6/21/2016 10:28:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Catch 22

If pro-moderation wins, that's a point in favor of vote moderation.
If anti-moderation wins, it'll because it got the most votes. But the votes are under moderation so this shows that vote moderation "works" so it's a point in favor of vote moderation.
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6/21/2016 10:31:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/21/2016 7:21:37 PM, TUF wrote:
I would like to shamelessly advertise a debate here about the effects of vote moderation on Debate.org. This is an issue that is discussed quite often in the forums, in generally a negative light. As someone who has personally seen voting bettered in the past (in my opinion this directly correlates with the enforcement of moderation), I would like to see if anyone would like to defend "The old voting" on DDO vs "The new voting".

http://www.debate.org...

The reason I am making a thread about this, is because this is a site specific topic. I don't know how many active forum members browse the challenge period section anymore, but this debate has a narrowed topic field, and I figure a vocal current member may find interest in this debate where they otherwise might not have seen it.

If you want to debate, but do not meet the Elo requirement, let me know here and I will look over your past debates before changing the acceptance standards.

I hope this debate will lead to some beneficial discussion on site moderation policies.

This looks to be a great debate!
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TUF
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6/22/2016 12:07:28 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/21/2016 10:28:30 PM, TheGreatAndPowerful wrote:
Catch 22

If pro-moderation wins, that's a point in favor of vote moderation.
If anti-moderation wins, it'll because it got the most votes. But the votes are under moderation so this shows that vote moderation "works" so it's a point in favor of vote moderation.

If anti-moderation lose it doesn't invalidate their arguments it just invalidates their ability to more effectively debate. Considering I'm a bad debater it won't likely be the case. And I don't usually have votes moderated on my debates so I think it will be a non issue.
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6/22/2016 12:20:03 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Someday I may debate this topic with math.

And it would be fun to read. I'm not even kidding.
"Delete your fvcking sig" -1hard

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TUF
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6/22/2016 1:07:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/21/2016 10:28:30 PM, TheGreatAndPowerful wrote:
Catch 22

If pro-moderation wins, that's a point in favor of vote moderation.
If anti-moderation wins, it'll because it got the most votes. But the votes are under moderation so this shows that vote moderation "works" so it's a point in favor of vote moderation.

I am re-opening this challenge if you are interested in taking it.
TheGreatAndPowerful
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6/22/2016 1:38:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/22/2016 1:07:42 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/21/2016 10:28:30 PM, TheGreatAndPowerful wrote:
Catch 22

If pro-moderation wins, that's a point in favor of vote moderation.
If anti-moderation wins, it'll because it got the most votes. But the votes are under moderation so this shows that vote moderation "works" so it's a point in favor of vote moderation.

I am re-opening this challenge if you are interested in taking it.

No, I am not interested in debating or voting on this site. Sorry.
fire_wings
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6/22/2016 2:39:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/21/2016 7:21:37 PM, TUF wrote:
I would like to shamelessly advertise a debate here about the effects of vote moderation on Debate.org. This is an issue that is discussed quite often in the forums, in generally a negative light. As someone who has personally seen voting bettered in the past (in my opinion this directly correlates with the enforcement of moderation), I would like to see if anyone would like to defend "The old voting" on DDO vs "The new voting".

http://www.debate.org...

The reason I am making a thread about this, is because this is a site specific topic. I don't know how many active forum members browse the challenge period section anymore, but this debate has a narrowed topic field, and I figure a vocal current member may find interest in this debate where they otherwise might not have seen it.

If you want to debate, but do not meet the Elo requirement, let me know here and I will look over your past debates before changing the acceptance standards.

I hope this debate will lead to some beneficial discussion on site moderation policies.

I disagree with you. Vote moderation isn't positive.
TUF
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6/22/2016 2:40:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/22/2016 2:39:39 PM, fire_wings wrote:
I disagree with you. Vote moderation isn't positive.

especially not for you.
fire_wings
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6/22/2016 2:41:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/22/2016 2:40:43 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/22/2016 2:39:39 PM, fire_wings wrote:
I disagree with you. Vote moderation isn't positive.

especially not for you.

I know, I'm not going to debate it, just saying a disagree with you.
TUF
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6/22/2016 2:41:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/22/2016 2:41:18 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 6/22/2016 2:40:43 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/22/2016 2:39:39 PM, fire_wings wrote:
I disagree with you. Vote moderation isn't positive.

especially not for you.

I know, I'm not going to debate it, just saying a disagree with you.

I wouldn't have let you debate it anyway lol.
fire_wings
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6/22/2016 2:42:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/22/2016 2:41:52 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/22/2016 2:41:18 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 6/22/2016 2:40:43 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/22/2016 2:39:39 PM, fire_wings wrote:
I disagree with you. Vote moderation isn't positive.

especially not for you.

I know, I'm not going to debate it, just saying a disagree with you.

I wouldn't have let you debate it anyway lol.

Cause I messed up the debate, I know.
tejretics
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6/22/2016 3:57:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/22/2016 2:40:43 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/22/2016 2:39:39 PM, fire_wings wrote:
I disagree with you. Vote moderation isn't positive.

especially not for you.
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