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Mirza
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12/19/2010 8:22:14 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Apart from what has already been suggested for change, I have a few more ideas:

- Theme selection
I think that we should be able to have different themes. However, I think I would mostly prefer that we change the current theme because this one seems to be a bit too classic.

• The "Debate.org" logo being yellow, the background being black, makes the theme look boring.

• The gray color adds more boredom to the theme.

What to change:

• Change "Debate.org" to e.g., light gray, and the background to e.g., blue.

• The other areas with gray color (e.g., Search Debates) should be changed.

• The colors should be more crystal-like, e.g., http://img574.imageshack.us... instead of too light or too dark, such as http://upload.wikimedia.org...=.

• Make the text normal, such as the one under "My Personal Menu" - The black text with bold type looks a bit boring, and the menu text being bold too is just as boring.

- Thread views
I think that just as is the case with debates, the forum threads should also have a view count. It could also be a good idea to show which users are seeing a thread, since many forums have that on.

- More color
I think that we should be able to format out text a bit more. It should be possible to edit our text so that we can change the color to e.g., red. It should be possible on debates, too. The signature should be more flexible, so that we can perhaps embed images (with a certain size) and change the text color of every word, for the sake of creativity.

- Polls
On a debate site like this one, I think that polls are a must. We should be able to have polls in threads, and we should be able to see who votes for what. This can be good for forum games or if someone wants to make some statistics.

- Like/dislike on debates
There used to be a simple like/dislike option on debates, but it seems to be gone for an unexplained reason. It is useful for seeing whether or not one should read a debate, or it is just a waste of time to do so. If the debate has -10 votes, then it is most probably not worthy of reading.

- Remove status option
Under "My Status" there is the option "Appear Offline." It is not a big deal, but I think that it should be removed because it serves no proper purpose. If a person is offline, he is offline; if he is online, he is online. There should be no confusion between those two statuses, and we should rather promote honesty.

- Strict quote
It should not be possible for someone to edit the posts of others when he quotes them. It could be that a person deliberately misquotes someone when replying to him, so that confusion is created. When replying, one should only be able to split between the words of the person he quotes, such as:

I like coffee, but my professor does not.

It should not be possible to change it to:

I like my girlfriend, but my girlfriend does not like me.

Rather, one should only be able to quote and change to e.g., this, and reply this way:

I like coffee,
So do I.

but my professor does not.
Is that due to health concerns? If so, tell him that coffee is healthy.

This way, it is easier to make sure that nobody tries to "demean" others. However, an exception should be made to the "Miscellaneous" forum, particularly to a "Games" sub-forum if we get it. It is not a big deal if someone misquotes others for fun when not in a real discussion.

- Post edit within five minutes
It is normal that one makes spelling or grammar errors, therefore I suggest that a user has the option to edit his post within e.g., five minutes after he has posted, so that he/she can clear the mistakes. A little automatic note saying e.g., "Edit: "to" changed to "you" is fine, but not a big deal, though.

These are my suggestions for now. I might come with more later, but I am unsure.
Korashk
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12/19/2010 8:25:50 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
This thread exists already. Put your ideas on the list there, but compress them.

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Mirza
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12/19/2010 8:26:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
"When replying, one should only be able to split between the words of the person he quotes"

I made a mistake. I think that highlighting something is fine, too.
Mirza
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12/19/2010 8:27:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/19/2010 8:25:50 PM, Korashk wrote:
This thread exists already. Put your ideas on the list there, but compress them.

http://www.debate.org...
I thought that was abandoned. Well, I think it's fine because I elaborated a bit on my suggestions.
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12/19/2010 8:33:49 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/19/2010 8:26:02 PM, Mirza wrote:
"When replying, one should only be able to split between the words of the person he quotes"

I made a mistake. I think that highlighting something is fine, too.

Lol. If highlighting is allowed, then by default adding or changing text in quotes is possible because it requires you to add characters in order to bold, italicize, or underline things.
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12/19/2010 8:34:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I think most of these are great suggestions, especially the style ones. I don't really care one way or the other about the 'My status' option, since I don't use it, but if some people want to pretend to be offline so that they aren't bothered, that's fine with me. Agree with the 'edit' idea--but only if it's limited to shortly after the post is posted, as Mirza suggests, since it would be really annoying if people went back and changed their earlier posts in the middle of a conversation.

But the 'Strict quote' idea is the worst thing I've ever heard. Not only the worst site suggestions I've ever heard, but one of the worst ideas in general I've ever heard. Quote-changing is probably the funniest thing on this site.
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12/19/2010 8:37:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/19/2010 8:33:49 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Lol. If highlighting is allowed, then by default adding or changing text in quotes is possible because it requires you to add characters in order to bold, italicize, or underline things.
The system can be made to recognize change to e.g., bold text, but not word change. It is possible.
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12/19/2010 8:41:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/19/2010 8:34:32 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
But the 'Strict quote' idea is the worst thing I've ever heard. Not only the worst site suggestions I've ever heard, but one of the worst ideas in general I've ever heard. Quote-changing is probably the funniest thing on this site.
It can be funny, but it can annoy some users.

Although I am not too keen on the idea either, but it could be something a user could select for his posts if he is a target of misquotations.
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12/19/2010 8:50:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/19/2010 8:37:39 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 12/19/2010 8:33:49 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Lol. If highlighting is allowed, then by default adding or changing text in quotes is possible because it requires you to add characters in order to bold, italicize, or underline things.
The system can be made to recognize change to e.g., bold text, but not word change. It is possible.

It's vaguely possible but completely impractical. Think about it, how will it work?
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12/19/2010 8:53:18 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/19/2010 8:46:39 PM, wamba wrote:
Strict quote is completely stupid

Mirza is only in favor of it because he is constantly made fun of through it.

This.
I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
Mirza
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12/19/2010 8:54:05 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/19/2010 8:50:43 PM, tvellalott wrote:
It's vaguely possible but completely impractical. Think about it, how will it work?
Yes, it can be impractical because a user can simply write "[User] wrote: xxxxxxxxx"

In standard format, when pressing "reply," the quoted text should be the standard of the reply, i.e., unchangeable, except for stated reasons. But again, I am not too keen on the idea either, although if practical in any way, it is not bad.
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12/19/2010 8:59:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Just to reiterate, if the new owners are reading this, do not implement strict quote. Pretty much no one but Mirza wants this.

But I like the style changes. Perhaps have several different options users can switch between, with this current one as 'classic' for people that don't like change.
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12/19/2010 9:01:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/19/2010 8:54:05 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 12/19/2010 8:50:43 PM, tvellalott wrote:
It's vaguely possible but completely impractical. Think about it, how will it work?
Yes, it can be impractical because a user can simply write "[User] wrote: xxxxxxxxx"

In standard format, when pressing "reply," the quoted text should be the standard of the reply, i.e., unchangeable, except for stated reasons. But again, I am not too keen on the idea either, although if practical in any way, it is not bad.

You can either have all formatting or no formatting, which isn't really a choice at all, seeing as how much I hate those posts that are like 98% quotes with one line at the bottom. You have to be able to edit the quote, for formatting and paraphrasing.
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12/19/2010 9:09:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/19/2010 8:59:56 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
Just to reiterate, if the new owners are reading this, do not implement strict quote. Pretty much no one but Mirza wants this.

This
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12/19/2010 9:25:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/19/2010 9:13:29 PM, Mirza wrote:
Now that my strict quotes idea has been shot down, can we please forget about it and move on to shooting down the rest of my suggestions?

Yes. I like DDO how it looks now.
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12/19/2010 10:10:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I think the ideas are good except for being able to edit your posts. If you make a mistake, you can quote yourself and edit it. Or you can just proofread the first time -__-
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12/20/2010 1:23:23 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/19/2010 9:09:45 PM, wamba wrote:
At 12/19/2010 8:59:56 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
Pretty much no one but Mirza wants this.